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Post by Tim on Jul 28, 2017 12:26:35 GMT
I just saw the rear end of an Audi S3 in the carpark across from my work. These have 4 round exhausts and the inner 2 were very black, the outer 2 almost immaculate.
Is this another of these situations where some of the exhausts are either blanked off or only used for special occasions?
I have the same issue with my 320 - it has the M Performance twin pipe exhaust but no matter how hard I drive it or even if it's in Sport mode there's nothing I can do to get the inner of the pipes sooty and it annoys me  |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 28, 2017 13:38:47 GMT
Don't know, but some new Audis (and I'm thinking of eg the new SQ5) have completely fake exhausts - they are blanked off inside the fancy outlines!
On my GC (and it was the same on the M135i), it uses only the RH pipe on start-up and then if you listen carefully, after 30 seconds or so, you hear an audible click at which point the revs drop and LH pipe opens. On a cold day, you can see it from the fumes. And yes, this results in one pipe getting sootier than the other.
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Post by Blarno on Jul 28, 2017 16:05:15 GMT
Exhaust fakery has long been a source of annoyance for me, especially with the trend of having massive trapezoidal cutouts covered in chrome in bumpers, with a poxy little pipe hidden inside, that's not even attached to the aforementioned cutout.
Why?
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 28, 2017 16:23:52 GMT
I couldn't agree more! I like that my car still has two "exhaust pipe-shaped" tail-pipes that are simply the size and shape they are, with no unnecessary "design".
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Post by michael on Jul 28, 2017 20:26:38 GMT
I think it's the Mercedes C class that has completely fake chrome shapes on the bottom of the bumper that suggest exhaust but are nothing of the sort.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 28, 2017 21:13:33 GMT
I think it's the Mercedes C class that has completely fake chrome shapes on the bottom of the bumper that suggest exhaust but are nothing of the sort. It is indeed; a neighbour has one and, as it was parked on next doors' drive for a fortnight while they were away and he was getting an extension built on his house, I had the misfortune to view them several times a day. |
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Post by Martin on Jul 28, 2017 21:19:15 GMT
Fake exhaust pipes and trim that's designed to look like fake pipes is a pet hate of mine. Exhaust pipes should be of a reasonable diameter and round. Audi used to be very good at that, with even fairly basic A1/A3s getting decent looking twin pipes, but that seems to,have come to an end.
The new SQ5 is a great example of how bad things have got.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 28, 2017 22:17:43 GMT
I'm not bothered about the shape as last by as they are real. The Subaru had twin oval pipes which looked fine.
Jag XF and Honda Civic have a lot to answer for!
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Post by PG on Jul 31, 2017 9:45:46 GMT
I'm not bothered about the shape as last by as they are real. The Subaru had twin oval pipes which looked fine. Jag XF and Honda Civic have a lot to answer for! The Jag XF trims were at least directly attached to a pipe, so at least had a connection. But the shape was a bit suspect (except XFR's that have always had four round pipes). I think you are right re the Civic. It was the Civic that started the "bumper opening in weird shape that is not even connected to the thin weedy pipe at one side only behind it" trend. That trend annoys the heck out of me. It is a case of form over function. Like others, I think exhausts should be round and directly connected to the pipe. |
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Post by Tim on Jul 31, 2017 12:21:48 GMT
I thought Civics had 2 active pipes - I'm sure I saw one with steam coming from both sides.
Renault had 2 fake outlets in the centre of the rear bumper on some previous shape CLios.
I also dislike the old Freelander that had a pipe sticking out but when you looked into that pipe (when following behind) you could clearly see a downturned real pipe a few inches into the exhaust.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 31, 2017 12:41:26 GMT
I'm all for fake trims and hidden exhausts. To me nothing looks worse that a modern aerodynamic design with two scaffold poles stuck out the back as exhausts. It's the 21st century, let's have a bit of design thought employed.
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Post by Alex on Aug 1, 2017 5:18:01 GMT
I thought Civics had 2 active pipes - I'm sure I saw one with steam coming from both sides. Depended on what engine was fitted. My 1.8 I-vtec had one each side, which were indeed pea shooters hidden further in from the triangular holes on the rear bumper. The 1.4 and I believe the 2.2 Diesel only had one exhauste. Later in the model cycle the 1.4 had its trianglular holes capped off which looked rather shite. |
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Post by michael on Aug 1, 2017 8:52:30 GMT
This is the deceit of the Volvo XC90 currently parked on my drive:  |
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 1, 2017 19:42:03 GMT
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That's a special aerodynamic exhaust. The cut-out at the rear of the insert "fake" tailpipe surround encourages air to stream through and aids with sucking the exhaust gases out of the pipe
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Post by Roadsterstu on Aug 2, 2017 7:59:02 GMT
It's more of a styling thing, I think. Gives it that "concept" car look. I'm not sure that's too bad, actually. The worst are twin pipes where one is quite clearly blanked off. Maybe we need a Gittish Exhausts thread?
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 2, 2017 10:03:22 GMT
Hmm.... exhausts.....the Gorilla has some....
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Post by Blarno on Aug 2, 2017 10:31:30 GMT
I think you've been fed a line there, Chris. Exhaust gases hardly need help getting out of the end of the pipes, especially on turbocharged stuff.
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 2, 2017 11:47:40 GMT
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I keep telling you all that we need an emoticon for "tongue in cheek".....
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Post by Blarno on Aug 2, 2017 12:23:26 GMT
I was going to say....
The force the gas comes out of the pipe on my Saab is pretty impressive. The Legacy was dangerous, it was like standing behind a live jet engine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 12:31:56 GMT
I thought Civics had 2 active pipes - I'm sure I saw one with steam coming from both sides. Depended on what engine was fitted. My 1.8 I-vtec had one each side, which were indeed pea shooters hidden further in from the triangular holes on the rear bumper. The 1.4 and I believe the 2.2 Diesel only had one exhauste. Later in the model cycle the 1.4 had its trianglular holes capped off which looked rather shite. My Civic has both its triangular exhausts connected and I personally like the look. It is, at least, coherent with the rest of the cars looks. As stated above, the ones with blanks fitted and a pea-shooter round exhaust fitted just look pants. |
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 2, 2017 12:40:10 GMT
....... a pea-shooter round exhaust fitted just look pants. How we've come on in terms of style. I remember when the pea-shooter exhaust was de-rigeur for Mk1 Escort aficionados in their teens. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Aug 3, 2017 8:14:37 GMT
....... a pea-shooter round exhaust fitted just look pants. How we've come on in terms of style. I remember when the pea-shooter exhaust was de-rigeur for Mk1 Escort aficionados in their teens. And then came the Cherry Bomb |
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Post by Blarno on Aug 3, 2017 8:22:22 GMT
Cherry Bombs were the bollocks on an old Ford.
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Post by Blarno on Aug 3, 2017 8:24:17 GMT
Don't forget the Peco Big Bore series. I had a Big Bore back box off an Astra GTE on my Belmont at one point, made up for it a few years later with a full Big Bore system on my second GTE.
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Post by LandieMark on Aug 3, 2017 9:39:29 GMT
Don't forget the Peco Big Bore series. I had a Big Bore back box off an Astra GTE on my Belmont at one point, made up for it a few years later with a full Big Bore system on my second GTE. I had a Peco BB2 on my Clio.  |
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Post by grampa on Aug 3, 2017 10:30:10 GMT
About time we had a return to the chrome side pipes of the '70s custom cars!
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 3, 2017 11:41:11 GMT
I fitted a big bore stainless system with tubular manifolds to my Land Rover 110 V8. It sounded like a TVR.
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Post by Blarno on Aug 3, 2017 11:56:32 GMT
I had a Full Janspeed on my XR2, including a tubular manifold. Legend has it that the standard exhaust system on the XR2 (Or XR2i, I forget which) is so efficient that swapping for an aftermarket system actually degrades performance. I think I had a Janspeed cat-back system on my Fiesta Zetec, sounded fruity. |
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