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Post by michael on Jul 21, 2017 9:37:55 GMT
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Post by Blarno on Jul 21, 2017 11:49:22 GMT
I've never heard leaf spring suspension be described as sophisticated before.
Coming to an itinerant driveway/guttering/double glazing specialist's driveway soon.
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Post by boc70 on Jul 21, 2017 13:01:21 GMT
I suppose the important bit of styling is the lower grille arrangement.
Because that's all you'll be seeing in your rear view mirror.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 21, 2017 14:45:29 GMT
The pickup market is pretty flooded already, but I can see these being appealing to more than just pikeys.
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Post by PG on Jul 21, 2017 15:12:36 GMT
The interior looks pretty Merc like so that's going to appeal and if it is quieter and rides better than its Navarra base, that'll help too. So I expect we'll see these about on the road fairly soon.
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Post by humphreythepug on Jul 21, 2017 16:51:32 GMT
Based on the Alaskan and Navarra.
Not sure if we are getting the Alaskan in the UK, it has been threatened for a number of years and then all goes quiet.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 21, 2017 16:59:47 GMT
I've never heard leaf spring suspension be described as sophisticated before. Coming to an itinerant driveway/guttering/double glazing specialist's driveway soon. Where does it mention leaf suspension? The article I read says the X Class’s suspension consists of coil-sprung double wishbones at the front and a coil-sprung, five-link live axle at the rear. But to answer your original question both the Volvo XC90 and XC60 have sophisticated composite leaf spring suspension at the rear.
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Post by Blarno on Jul 22, 2017 10:33:22 GMT
My mistake. Live axle to me automatically screams leaf springs.
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 22, 2017 11:20:44 GMT
There's a market for these, no matter how revolting I find them. The non-tradesmen market is driven by the tuppence ha'penny per mile road building budget.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 22, 2017 12:02:54 GMT
My mistake. Live axle to me automatically screams leaf springs. Even my Defender's live axles have coils!
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Post by PG on Jul 22, 2017 13:53:12 GMT
My mistake. Live axle to me automatically screams leaf springs. Navarra's used to have leaf springs, but the new version (on which this X class is based) moved to coil springs.
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Post by johnc on Jul 25, 2017 14:58:27 GMT
Half of these vehicles are sold because they are considered to be commercial vehicles on which the full VAT can be reclaimed, the full cost set off against tax in year 1 and a benefit in kind of about £3,800 all in including all the fuel you can drink.
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Post by Tim on Jul 25, 2017 15:08:08 GMT
At what point do these 'premium' brands cease to be that? They're already outselling the 'volume' manufacturers.
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Post by PG on Jul 25, 2017 16:44:04 GMT
Half of these vehicles are sold because they are considered to be commercial vehicles on which the full VAT can be reclaimed, the full cost set off against tax in year 1 and a benefit in kind of about £3,800 all in including all the fuel you can drink. If it is a company purchase, I agree. But if self employed, aren't you technically only supposed to recover the VAT %, fuel and year 1 cost relief that can be assessed / proved as business use? And as another anomaly, they are not covered by the same speed limit restrictions on NSL roads as other commercial vehicles.
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Post by johnc on Jul 26, 2017 8:22:38 GMT
If it is a company purchase, I agree. But if self employed, aren't you technically only supposed to recover the VAT %, fuel and year 1 cost relief that can be assessed / proved as business use? And as another anomaly, they are not covered by the same speed limit restrictions on NSL roads as other commercial vehicles. That's right but if you have a mileage log that shows you use the vehicle for say 60% business use, that's 60% you can recover - for a 40% tax payer that's a pretty cheap vehicle.
There are so many variables between companies and self employed as to the best vehicle to buy. Basically if bought through a company, something like a double cab pickup ticks all the boxes, either that or something electric/hybrid but if it's a car, the VAT can't be recovered.
For the self employed the amount you can claim as an expense is dependant on the business use percentage, so you need full mileage records. It is worth buying something more expensive if you have a high business use percentage but if the business percentage is small, you hardly recover anything and it is then necessary to consider the vehicle as a pure cost and possibly to buy something older and cheaper. I have a client who runs a 911 as a sole trader and claims about 70% of the costs - he lives no distance from his work, uses the Porsche for all business trips and has another car he uses for most private journeys. His total annual mileage is only c 6,000 but I sometimes wonder if he is letting the tax tail wag the dog and not fully enjoying the car.
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