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Post by rodge on Jun 4, 2023 10:12:38 GMT
Was talking to the site manager on Friday and he’s just traded his Panamera in for a Cayenne. He brought the car in to get the 120 point inspection done and they found something that was going to cost several grand to repair- he’s always said the Panamera was an expensive car to own when compared to the Cayenne he had before that. Anyway, he test drove a Cayenne while he was there and ended up buying it. It’s about 6 years younger than the last car, has 440bhp and is faster in a straight line and around corners. I haven’t seen it yet as he didn’t have it with him that day. His Panamera got €30,000 as a trade in and that was with a dodgy gearbox (the repair it needed) and over 200,000k on it.
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Post by franki68 on Jun 7, 2023 13:53:04 GMT
So messing around and concluding that if I change my car it will most probably be for a 992 touring if I could get one I spent an hour on the Porsche configurator.I started with the regular gt3 just to see how much the newer version of my car would be and wtf My car is 5 years old,base price was 110k and I put 15k of extras on it.The base price of a 992 gt3 is £147k and putting a very similar spec on it to mine ends up with a car just under £170k .That's a near 40% price increase in 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2023 15:44:31 GMT
Porsche, as we all know, understand the value of extra's and how to get blood from a stone.
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Post by Martin on Jun 7, 2023 15:59:56 GMT
So messing around and concluding that if I change my car it will most probably be for a 992 touring if I could get one I spent an hour on the Porsche configurator.I started with the regular gt3 just to see how much the newer version of my car would be and wtf My car is 5 years old,base price was 110k and I put 15k of extras on it.The base price of a 992 gt3 is £147k and putting a very similar spec on it to mine ends up with a car just under £170k .That's a near 40% price increase in 5 years. I thought you were looking for something a bit more comfortable, isn't the 992 more hardcore than the 991?
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 7, 2023 17:03:00 GMT
So messing around and concluding that if I change my car it will most probably be for a 992 touring if I could get one I spent an hour on the Porsche configurator.I started with the regular gt3 just to see how much the newer version of my car would be and wtf My car is 5 years old,base price was 110k and I put 15k of extras on it.The base price of a 992 gt3 is £147k and putting a very similar spec on it to mine ends up with a car just under £170k .That's a near 40% price increase in 5 years. I always assumed that they were just under 150K specced up, never realised they had gotten that expensive. Still attracting 20K overs though
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Post by Martin on Jun 7, 2023 17:49:57 GMT
At £125k, a GT3 is pretty much a free car. I disagree with some of the huge increases, but think the GT3 is now just priced at the right market rate.
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Post by franki68 on Jun 8, 2023 10:29:22 GMT
So messing around and concluding that if I change my car it will most probably be for a 992 touring if I could get one I spent an hour on the Porsche configurator.I started with the regular gt3 just to see how much the newer version of my car would be and wtf My car is 5 years old,base price was 110k and I put 15k of extras on it.The base price of a 992 gt3 is £147k and putting a very similar spec on it to mine ends up with a car just under £170k .That's a near 40% price increase in 5 years. I thought you were looking for something a bit more comfortable, isn't the 992 more hardcore than the 991? What I want depends on what side of the bed I wake up on , I’m struggling to find something that is more comfortable but equally as exciting to drive The 992 regular is supposedly more hardcore but the touring is apparently softer but the reviews are so mixed it’s hard to determine the truth .
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 8, 2023 15:30:37 GMT
Equally exciting and more comfortable has a McLaren badge on its nose.
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Post by franki68 on Jun 11, 2023 8:23:54 GMT
I can’t buy a car I have to fall over to get in and out of it .
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Post by bryan on Jun 11, 2023 12:27:58 GMT
Do you reckon anyone has ever gone into a Porsche dealership and just ordered a stock model with no options?
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Post by johnc on Jun 12, 2023 9:35:22 GMT
Do you reckon anyone has ever gone into a Porsche dealership and just ordered a stock model with no options? I think they would lock the doors and pull the shutters down until they had convinced the buyer of the error of their ways.
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Post by Martin on Jun 12, 2023 10:08:52 GMT
Do you reckon anyone has ever gone into a Porsche dealership and just ordered a stock model with no options? I think you might get a couple of examples of the special editions as they have a reasonable level of std kit including metallic paint, but even then the customer was bound to be told something was essential for resale! So on reflection, highly unlikely.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 12, 2023 10:53:14 GMT
On Pistonheads - there was a reader’s car thread about a new base spec 911 that the owner had bought with an 8% discount.
If memory serves it was one of the last 991’s in flat red.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 12, 2023 16:26:58 GMT
Do you reckon anyone has ever gone into a Porsche dealership and just ordered a stock model with no options? That person would be an absolute hero.
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Post by bryan on Jun 12, 2023 23:04:43 GMT
Do you reckon anyone has ever gone into a Porsche dealership and just ordered a stock model with no options? That person would be an absolute hero. If only to see the salesman's face!
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 13, 2023 10:49:19 GMT
Before lock down when discounts were high, If you looked at BCA auction stock they have a lot of ex-lease caymans and boxsters go through without a single option on apart from paint. No leather, no DAB, no Climate etc.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 16, 2023 20:04:27 GMT
Before lock down when discounts were high, If you looked at BCA auction stock they have a lot of ex-lease caymans and boxsters go through without a single option on apart from paint. No leather, no DAB, no Climate etc. Paint is an option? Wow: that’s really mean…..
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Post by johnc on Jun 23, 2023 7:39:37 GMT
This looks pretty good although you have to factor in the £4,500 buyer's fee which probably brings the car up to close to trade book value. Only 10 hrs to go but I think it will probably have a reserve of £75K/£80K and will end up unsold. collectingcars.com/for-sale/2021-porsche-911-992-carrera-s
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 23, 2023 8:19:21 GMT
This looks pretty good although you have to factor in the £4,500 buyer's fee which probably brings the car up to close to trade book value. Only 10 hrs to go but I think it will probably have a reserve of £75K/£80K and will end up unsold. collectingcars.com/for-sale/2021-porsche-911-992-carrera-sWow a manual, in this day and age that will kill its desirability. I think even a dinosaur like me would go for a PDK in a 992 given the choice
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Post by Tim on Jun 23, 2023 8:29:48 GMT
This looks pretty good although you have to factor in the £4,500 buyer's fee which probably brings the car up to close to trade book value. Only 10 hrs to go but I think it will probably have a reserve of £75K/£80K and will end up unsold. collectingcars.com/for-sale/2021-porsche-911-992-carrera-sWow a manual, in this day and age that will kill its desirability. I think even a dinosaur like me would go for a PDK in a 992 given the choice 18 months ago a friend bought an ex-demo Carrera 4S that looks exactly like that and I think he paid approx £120k. His is PDK though and has double red stitching!
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Post by johnc on Jun 23, 2023 10:23:26 GMT
It's now up to over £75K with about £6K buyer's fee on top.
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 23, 2023 12:23:56 GMT
This looks pretty good although you have to factor in the £4,500 buyer's fee which probably brings the car up to close to trade book value. Only 10 hrs to go but I think it will probably have a reserve of £75K/£80K and will end up unsold. collectingcars.com/for-sale/2021-porsche-911-992-carrera-sWow a manual, in this day and age that will kill its desirability. I think even a dinosaur like me would go for a PDK in a 992 given the choice Really ? Given the impact a manual gearbox is having on the values of some Ferraris and Lamborghinis, I would have thought a manual 992 would always be sought after. Maybe it's because the earlier automated manual Ferraorghinis were a bit crap - I guess PDK doesn't have that issue
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Post by Alex on Jun 26, 2023 8:08:02 GMT
Wow a manual, in this day and age that will kill its desirability. I think even a dinosaur like me would go for a PDK in a 992 given the choice Really ? Given the impact a manual gearbox is having on the values of some Ferraris and Lamborghinis, I would have thought a manual 992 would always be sought after. Maybe it's because the earlier automated manual Ferraorghinis were a bit crap - I guess PDK doesn't have that issue Perhaps it's one of those situations where PDK is what buyers want now whilst they're buying nearly new ones still but 10-15 years down the line the manual will be more sought after due for its rarety.
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Post by johnc on Dec 7, 2023 8:39:04 GMT
I got a call from a guy yesterday who is doing very well in business and wanted to treat himself. His only problem is he is very tight with money.
He has been looking at Porsche Boxster GTSs in 4 litre flavour, watching the prices falling for a while now and has found a dealer with a new unregistered car for a little over £80K which is list. He has offered the dealer £75K and they are thinking about it. He said that the response he got was far more positive than he expected, so the price slide might be on.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 7, 2023 10:18:11 GMT
The slide is well and truly on. Have you seen the number of unregistered 992's and Taycans sat at dealers?
I see Taycans have now broken the 50K barrier for used ones and decent 992's now start at mid to late 70K. The slip will continue until either fin rates come down or manufacturers are brave enough to support decent balloons.
I would be tempted by a 4.0 GTS as these are now 60K, I'm hoping they move to around 50K in 12 months and they might come onto my radar.
If your client can get a new one for 75K that seems more then reasonable. That'll be about £500 - 600 a month in depreciation over 3 years which isn't too bad. A lot less then an M4 would be.
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Post by johnc on Dec 7, 2023 10:30:18 GMT
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Post by Tim on Dec 7, 2023 11:47:38 GMT
Imagine how much nicer that would look with silver wheels.
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Post by johnc on Dec 7, 2023 14:17:17 GMT
Imagine how much nicer that would look with silver wheels. I know and the sad thing is that more than 50% of them are on black wheels. It must be the shiny suited salesman who have persuaded customers that black is the way to go.
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Post by Martin on Dec 7, 2023 14:19:31 GMT
Up to £40k off list for a new Taycan Turbo S and even the well reviewed 992 T can be had for £15k+ below list at a few months old. The GTS 4.0 is holding out a bit better, but there are some nice specced ones in the low £70k’s now. I’ve been tempted as could make it work as a 3rd car at that price, but I think the price will drop a fair bit in the next couple of months, so will think again early spring next year.
I can’t get the link to work….is it the one for sale at Porsche Mayfair? That one’s rather basic, plastic dash, basic xenon’s etc. Worth spending a bit more imo.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 7, 2023 14:20:17 GMT
Can't understand the thing for black wheels, if you have a silver rim and black spokes maybe as at least that gives you definition but otherwise large expensive wheels become lost.
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