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Post by Big Blue on Dec 20, 2022 9:27:40 GMT
Friend of a friend had his full fat Rangie stolen one Sunday afternoon. Cloned key, driven off; neighbour come round to tell him; tracker used; found in a dodgy place with all manner of bits ripped up as they looked for the tracker. OK so he got his back and he’s ordered a new one anyway. He’s also ordered some kind of pattern start gizmo so you need to do a pre-start exercise before it starts even with key present (eg: pull indicator left then press brake then flick right windscreen wiper). It stops the key cloning to an extent and as the Met get about 20 stolen Range Rover reports a day round our way probably fulfils the “make yours harder to steal than the next one” remit.
Now here’s the thing: it became apparent that around 25% of new Rangie sales are following a total loss theft of the previous one. That makes a decent case for not making them harder to steal in the first place…….
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Post by johnc on Dec 20, 2022 9:31:26 GMT
What are the insurance costs like with that level of theft and total loss?
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 20, 2022 9:41:50 GMT
Customer of mine has had her white on white Rangie Sport stolen from some undesirable part of London town last week. I'd be amazed if it was 25% as every owners insurance bill would be circa 20K a year. Seems all LR products are highly sought after though.
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Post by Martin on Dec 20, 2022 13:17:33 GMT
Insurance is quite a bit cheaper than it was for the 7 series, can’t remember the exact numbers but it was £550 last time vs £800+
Is it a post 2018 car, as they bumped up the security on the facelift cars (key that goes to sleep etc)?
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Post by franki68 on Dec 20, 2022 13:34:36 GMT
I cannot get over the cost of the new full fat rangie,my friend is a big fan and keeps sending me links to cars..220k for a range rover ,it's insane.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 20, 2022 13:43:18 GMT
Insurance is quite a bit cheaper than it was for the 7 series, can’t remember the exact numbers but it was £550 last time vs £800+ Is it a post 2018 car, as they bumped up the security on the facelift cars (key that goes to sleep etc)? He’d had it since 2020. Not sure how new but he’s not the type for used cars. |
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Post by PG on Dec 28, 2022 10:30:39 GMT
Where are all these stolen Range Rover products ending up? Are they driven round on cloned plates by n'er-do-wells? Stripped for parts - but I doubt many of the people who have new Rangies shop for parts on eBay? And what overseas markets exist for thousands of stolen Range Rovers?
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 28, 2022 11:11:00 GMT
Where are all these stolen Range Rover products ending up? Are they driven round on cloned plates by n'er-do-wells? Stripped for parts - but I doubt many of the people who have new Rangies shop for parts on eBay? And what overseas markets exist for thousands of stolen Range Rovers? Eastern Europe and Africa. |
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 25, 2023 0:58:18 GMT
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Post by Martin on Feb 25, 2023 8:06:43 GMT
I’ve just update the quote for mine in GoCompare. Best price is just over £1100, double last year but it was close to £2000 when I last looked. A brand new AB is £1630, so not too horrendous for a £130k car with a high risk of theft, more expensive than other cars with a similar value but not uninsurable outside of London. To put both figures into perspective, they are only about the same as a month’s depreciation.
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Post by Alex on Feb 25, 2023 17:13:38 GMT
Might be why so many RRs I see around London have reverted to the old school steering wheel lock. Not foolproof but makes it harder to nick so I guess with so many of them on Londons roads the thieves will move onto the next one.
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Post by alf on Feb 27, 2023 12:08:34 GMT
Where are all these stolen Range Rover products ending up? Are they driven round on cloned plates by n'er-do-wells? Stripped for parts - but I doubt many of the people who have new Rangies shop for parts on eBay? And what overseas markets exist for thousands of stolen Range Rovers? This post is interesting as I see high end, newish Range Rovers stopped by the Police on the side of the road more than any other car type! If 25% of them get stolen and need replacing, and given they seem to be favoured by criminal types (presumably therefore not properly insured etc even when not stolen) that is not a suprise. Thefts at that level - not fixed by RR - do seem a big of a conspiracy in a way! How hard can it be to have a basic PIN pad like some Peugeots used to years ago and need a PIN to log in and start the car? On a modern car you could link that to profiles for settings and seats, alerts, power controls, tracking etc - great for a car you own but other family members might drive. It can't be hard. But then RR always have dreadful reliability ratings too and yet people still buy them ............ |
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Post by Martin on Feb 27, 2023 13:14:01 GMT
Autowatch Ghost is a popular immobiliser which works in the way BB describes in the OP, costs about £450 fitted. The latest keyless technology, where the key goes to sleep when not moved means I really don’t think it’s the issue that people believe. I’ve been a member / lurker on the Golf R forum for nearly 5 years and a Range Rover one for a couple and have seen they’ve been a number of thefts, but not once was it via cloning, always a break in, often when the owner is at home. I’ve thought about getting a Ghost, but I’ve got GAP insurance instead. If someone breaks in for the keys threatening my family, they can have them and I don’t want them coming back pissed off asking for the code to start it!!
I had the immobiliser keypad on a Peugeot 406.
I’ve never been pulled over or had any faults, sounds like I’m not getting the full Range Rover experience…..
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Post by Tim on Feb 27, 2023 13:27:59 GMT
Autowatch Ghost is a popular immobiliser which works in the way BB describes in the OP, costs about £450 fitted. The latest keyless technology, where the key goes to sleep when not moved means I really don’t think it’s the issue that people believe. I’ve been a member / lurker on the Golf R forum for nearly 5 years and a Range Rover one for a couple and have seen they’ve been a number of thefts, but not once was it via cloning, always a break in, often when the owner is at home. I’ve thought about getting a Ghost, but I’ve got GAP insurance instead. If someone breaks in for the keys threatening my family, they can have them and I don’t want them coming back pissed off asking for the code to start it!! I had the immobiliser keypad on a Peugeot 406. I’ve never been pulled over or had any faults, sounds like I’m not getting the full Range Rover experience…..Incoming 'proper' breakdown in 3.....2.....1...... |
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Post by Martin on Feb 27, 2023 13:52:15 GMT
Autowatch Ghost is a popular immobiliser which works in the way BB describes in the OP, costs about £450 fitted. The latest keyless technology, where the key goes to sleep when not moved means I really don’t think it’s the issue that people believe. I’ve been a member / lurker on the Golf R forum for nearly 5 years and a Range Rover one for a couple and have seen they’ve been a number of thefts, but not once was it via cloning, always a break in, often when the owner is at home. I’ve thought about getting a Ghost, but I’ve got GAP insurance instead. If someone breaks in for the keys threatening my family, they can have them and I don’t want them coming back pissed off asking for the code to start it!! I had the immobiliser keypad on a Peugeot 406. I’ve never been pulled over or had any faults, sounds like I’m not getting the full Range Rover experience…..Incoming 'proper' breakdown in 3.....2.....1...... It’s fine, I’m using the Golf Mon-Wed this week! |
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