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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 10:32:32 GMT
They simply refuse to acknowledfe there might be another route to go along with BEV to clean up the act. As you say, investment and money talks.....
Political influence is still easy to buy.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 11, 2022 11:08:30 GMT
And HMRC have just increased their mileage allowance for EV's to 8p/mile. Your average EV will do less than 3 miles/kWh. At motorway speeds it could easily be 2 miles/kWh. As I posted recently InstaVolt are charging 75p/kWh which is a cost per mile of between 25p and 37.5p/mile. Even home charging costs between 10p and 15p/mile. Tax is supposed to be fair!!! The UK energy grid is currently producing at 410g per kilowatt which makes the average electric car a lot more CO2 intensive than an average ICE car like a 520d. Are company cars still taxed on emissions? We really need a serious conversation about what the objective of all this as it’s a losing situation for too many people. I take it you’re not including the cost of extracting, refining, and transporting that diesel for the 520d? |
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Post by michael on Dec 11, 2022 11:24:14 GMT
The UK energy grid is currently producing at 410g per kilowatt which makes the average electric car a lot more CO2 intensive than an average ICE car like a 520d. Are company cars still taxed on emissions? We really need a serious conversation about what the objective of all this as it’s a losing situation for too many people. I take it you’re not including the cost of extracting, refining, and transporting that diesel for the 520d? No, but I wasn’t including associated costs for gas extraction either. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 11, 2022 16:59:33 GMT
I take it you’re not including the cost of extracting, refining, and transporting that diesel for the 520d? No, but I wasn’t including associated costs for gas extraction either. The costs associated with gas extraction and the carbon footprint incurred are a fraction of oil, before you even add in refining, so you’re not comparing like with like. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:06:17 GMT
Not to mention being a byproduct.
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Post by michael on Dec 11, 2022 20:14:05 GMT
No, but I wasn’t including associated costs for gas extraction either. The costs associated with gas extraction and the carbon footprint incurred are a fraction of oil, before you even add in refining, so you’re not comparing like with like. Not a huge amount in it. Both are largely imported by ship from across the globe, compression to LNG isn’t without cost. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 11, 2022 20:41:55 GMT
The costs associated with gas extraction and the carbon footprint incurred are a fraction of oil, before you even add in refining, so you’re not comparing like with like. Not a huge amount in it. Both are largely imported by ship from across the globe, compression to LNG isn’t without cost. Oil has a carbon footprint at least 50% greater than oil, assuming you’re not extracting from the heavy, tar-like crude found in Canada and Venezuela, in which case it’s even greater. Then you have the distillation. Half our gas comes via pipeline. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 21:56:06 GMT
Sorry, wot?
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