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Post by Big Blue on Oct 10, 2022 13:25:24 GMT
So the season is now effectively over, although it was around late July. Yet again it ends in confusion following the application of full points for a less than 75% race distance, the new scoring system a throwback to last year’s Spa race which comprised a parade lap at most. So rather than bemoan the points system, the fact that a very calm and superior Red Bull team and driver crushed the opposition or whether any cost caps were broken, or indeed even are worth trying to administer and look at the elephant in the room: why are they having these Pacific Rim races in the period with highest typhoon likelihood?
I know historically the wish to have a defined “European Season” pushed events like Japan, Brasil, South Africa and Australia to either end of the European spring / summer period but we now have an Italian race shoved in between Saudi, Australia and the USA so notions of traditional calendar events can go out of the window. Japan could be moved to spring so we all see the blossom and Singapore an early spring race. The European races can go well into October I reckon, given that the MotoGP season always ends in Valencia in November and is seldom wet.
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 10, 2022 15:04:45 GMT
I'm not too bothered by the rain ruining play. It should give us the opportunity for a really decent race, however, it seems that F1 deems it now far too much of a risk to drivers unless its a light drizzle. Why Pirelli bother to transport wet tyres around the world I have no idea. Its seems their only use is to be made into furniture at the end of the season.
It might be an old attitude but I want wet races that challenge the drivers. Makes them look human when they fall off the circuit at embarrassingly slow speeds and make them look like legends when someone like Latifi can get their Williams in the points.
Anyway, Well done Max and RB. They smashed it this year.
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Post by Boxer6 on Oct 10, 2022 16:51:57 GMT
I'm not too bothered by the rain ruining play. It should give us the opportunity for a really decent race, however, it seems that F1 deems it now far too much of a risk to drivers unless its a light drizzle. Why Pirelli bother to transport wet tyres around the world I have no idea. Its seems their only use is to be made into furniture at the end of the season. It might be an old attitude but I want wet races that challenge the drivers. Makes them look human when they fall off the circuit at embarrassingly slow speeds and make them look like legends when someone like Latifi can get their Williams in the points. Anyway, Well done Max and RB. They smashed it this year. Absolutely this!! I'm sure most of us remember Japanese Grands Prix of yore where they were racing in virtual monsoon conditions, which provided some thrilling encounters over the years. I think I'm right in saying all levels of BSB and MotoGP also race in the rain; 200+bhp through one wheel is something to be truly in awe of IMHO. |
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 10, 2022 17:24:52 GMT
I'm not too bothered by the rain ruining play. It should give us the opportunity for a really decent race, however, it seems that F1 deems it now far too much of a risk to drivers unless its a light drizzle. Why Pirelli bother to transport wet tyres around the world I have no idea. Anyway, Well done Max and RB. They smashed it this year. Yes, I’m frustrated at the lack of wet weather racing-proper, more so having sat in the living room from before 6am. Also, despite my complaints and sniping Max was on another planet this year. Totally composed and never looked to struggle or stress with the new car regs. A class driver. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 20:29:50 GMT
Whateve Max has got up to in the past he has been the driver of the season. Most of the time folk do not fight a Max overtake preffering torun their own race, which is what his prior conduct was aimed at achieving. Having done that job he is free and clear to get on with winning.
THat being said, he is more than capable of punting the pod round the track at phenominal speed, more than worthy of being considered at the very top of the profesion no matter the decade.
What I would like to know is why they have any particular race at a time the weather is more than likely to be inclement.
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Post by Sav on Oct 10, 2022 22:45:42 GMT
I'm not too bothered by the rain ruining play. It should give us the opportunity for a really decent race, however, it seems that F1 deems it now far too much of a risk to drivers unless its a light drizzle. Why Pirelli bother to transport wet tyres around the world I have no idea. Its seems their only use is to be made into furniture at the end of the season. It might be an old attitude but I want wet races that challenge the drivers. Makes them look human when they fall off the circuit at embarrassingly slow speeds and make them look like legends when someone like Latifi can get their Williams in the points. Absolutely. When was the last time that F1 actually raced for a sustained period that required the full-wet compound? Yesterday they all soon went to the intermediate. A sure sign that they could have been running in the wet long before. It’s taking the intrigue and unpredictability out of wet races. The locals must have been amused, they race with Super Formula and Super GT at Suzuka in worse conditions – Suzuka is used to hosting races in such conditions because of the weather that they have. The reasoning seems to be that someone might crash, they might do – they also might not. I don’t think that Silverstone 2008 would have happened today. Today it would be deemed too wet, and too dangerous. F1 has now committed itself to only running on intermediates when its barley wet. I am probably a dissenting voice on this, I’m not sure the whole anger about the tractor being on track is justified. Fact is, there was a red flag – that’s the cue to slow right down. It was an entirely different circumstance compared to what happened back in 2014, when it was merely a double-waved yellow. F1 is so eager to go Safety Car or VSC these days, listening to some of the drivers yesterday, you would have thought that the sport had plunged back to the 60’s or something. Absurd. There was loads of races for the BTCC finale at Brands Hatch, and lots of stricken cars to remove in most races when drivers' talent ran out. There were tractors and flatbeds, nobody threw a tantrum like Gasly. Verstappen has been noticeably better than Leclerc this season. He would have walked Singapore too had it not been for that qualifying refuelling issue. More consistent and better at soaking up pressure. The Red Bull got better as the season progressed, whereas Ferrari lost their early-season advantage. The Red Bull now is almost as dominant as Mercedes in those early hybrid years. Better tyre usage, massively better straightline speed, more downforce - its not a great advertisement for the new regulations but well done Milton Keynes and Red Bull. The way that Liberty wants to promote F1, I'm surprised that they haven't been attracted to balance of performance like sportscar racing has. A new front wing or floor won't make Drive To Survive more appetising, but closer competition would.... |
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 11, 2022 8:30:49 GMT
I'm not too bothered by the rain ruining play. It should give us the opportunity for a really decent race, however, it seems that F1 deems it now far too much of a risk to drivers unless its a light drizzle. Why Pirelli bother to transport wet tyres around the world I have no idea. Its seems their only use is to be made into furniture at the end of the season. It might be an old attitude but I want wet races that challenge the drivers. Makes them look human when they fall off the circuit at embarrassingly slow speeds and make them look like legends when someone like Latifi can get their Williams in the points. Absolutely. When was the last time that F1 actually raced for a sustained period that required the full-wet compound? Yesterday they all soon went to the intermediate. A sure sign that they could have been running in the wet long before. It’s taking the intrigue and unpredictability out of wet races. The locals must have been amused, they race with Super Formula and Super GT at Suzuka in worse conditions – Suzuka is used to hosting races in such conditions because of the weather that they have. The reasoning seems to be that someone might crash, they might do – they also might not. I don’t think that Silverstone 2008 would have happened today. Today it would be deemed too wet, and too dangerous. F1 has now committed itself to only running on intermediates when its barley wet. I am probably a dissenting voice on this, I’m not sure the whole anger about the tractor being on track is justified. Fact is, there was a red flag – that’s the cue to slow right down. It was an entirely different circumstance compared to what happened back in 2014, when it was merely a double-waved yellow. F1 is so eager to go Safety Car or VSC these days, listening to some of the drivers yesterday, you would have thought that the sport had plunged back to the 60’s or something. Absurd. There was loads of races for the BTCC finale at Brands Hatch, and lots of stricken cars to remove in most races when drivers' talent ran out. There were tractors and flatbeds, nobody threw a tantrum like Gasly. Verstappen has been noticeably better than Leclerc this season. He would have walked Singapore too had it not been for that qualifying refuelling issue. More consistent and better at soaking up pressure. The Red Bull got better as the season progressed, whereas Ferrari lost their early-season advantage. The Red Bull now is almost as dominant as Mercedes in those early hybrid years. Better tyre usage, massively better straightline speed, more downforce - its not a great advertisement for the new regulations but well done Milton Keynes and Red Bull. The way that Liberty wants to promote F1, I'm surprised that they haven't been attracted to balance of performance like sportscar racing has. A new front wing or floor won't make Drive To Survive more appetising, but closer competition would.... I kind of get that they don't want another death on live television so are overly cautious but it kills the show and allowing us to hear all the radio traffic just makes the drivers sound a little precious. If the drivers don't like it slow down or do a Lauda. I do get why Gasly was upset with regards to the tractor on track. But he is in charge of his own survival. Tearing around a track in the wet in Red flag conditions, it might be a good idea to slow down. Only has himself to blame if something went wrong and all he moaned about was the tractor. What about the Marshalls on track who he's responsible for? |
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