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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 17, 2022 16:04:11 GMT
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Post by Martin on Aug 17, 2022 16:17:09 GMT
Completely agree, that’s way over the top for me. |
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 17, 2022 16:42:30 GMT
Yep. Ridiculous. Look like a prick for an extra chunk of cash. Fine if you race it but most will amble round A roads on a Sunday.
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Post by Stuntman on Aug 17, 2022 19:46:17 GMT
I saw a 992 GT3 Touring up close a few weeks ago, and a bewinged 992 GT3 up close last weekend. The bewinged version actually didn't look as ridiculous as I had thought from seeing pictures. It was even vaguely cohesive.
But this GT3 RS? Nope. A caricature of a ccar. And no 3 pedal manual gearbox (I realise that PDK-S is what this car is all about and the reasons why).
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Post by Sav on Aug 17, 2022 20:02:16 GMT
I like it. They evidently want it to be as close to the recently unveiled 992 GT3 race car, which it is. I would love to drive it. It’ll probably spend more time outside Harrods at 2 am, where it will look most-absurd, rather than a race track. Which will be a shame.
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Post by Martin on Aug 18, 2022 5:49:08 GMT
I watched the Carfection video last night and it’s such an impressive piece of kit, but wasted (imho) on the road in the UK. I would love to spend time with one on a track with an instructor.
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Post by johnc on Aug 18, 2022 8:12:18 GMT
I think this car has been designed much more for the track than the road and the target market will be for track use (even though some people with too much money will still want one for the road)
It has in car adjustable dampers on each corner for both bump and rebound as well as an in car adjustable diff - these things are pure track tools.
As a track car i think it is awesome and I would love a drive. For the road (if I had the money) I would probably buy an under the radar Turbo or GT3 Touring and would be a bit embarrassed driving a GT3 RS
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 18, 2022 8:29:45 GMT
Having seen a couple more images of different cars I think the colours not doing it any favours. If it was in a far more subtle spec the blades would probably blend in better. Not much you can do with the giant wing though.
Of course, if the objective is to be as close to the race car as possible why not just get a used Cup car.
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Post by franki68 on Aug 18, 2022 12:13:33 GMT
I would be embarrassed to drive that.
The 992 gt range is not as good looking as the 991 gt range (and in no way am I biased) full stop,the black plastic bits are awful . I haven't driven one but quite a few people who have think the new suspension at the front makes the car very twitchy on the road.
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Post by PetrolEd on Aug 18, 2022 12:23:56 GMT
I would be embarrassed to drive that. The 992 gt range is not as good looking as the 991 gt range (and in no way am I biased) full stop,the black plastic bits are awful . I haven't driven one but quite a few people who have think the new suspension at the front makes the car very twitchy on the road. The only 992 I find appealing is the Turbo as it disguises the rather bulbous shape. I'd still take a late model 991 over a current 992 in any format. |
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Post by Stuntman on Aug 18, 2022 18:40:24 GMT
I think this car has been designed much more for the track than the road and the target market will be for track use (even though some people with too much money will still want one for the road) It has in car adjustable dampers on each corner for both bump and rebound as well as an in car adjustable diff - these things are pure track tools. As a track car i think it is awesome and I would love a drive. For the road (if I had the money) I would probably buy an under the radar Turbo or GT3 Touring and would be a bit embarrassed driving a GT3 RS This technology is highly impressive, especially if it is possible to soften it off to an acceptable state for road use (ideally softer than a 992 GT3...). But otherwise, I agree with Ed and franki. For me, the aesthetic sweet spot of the 992 range is the GTS. The Turbo does look good, but I think the GTS looks better. I'd take a GTS in 4WD flavour and reluctantly sell the Yaris  |
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Post by franki68 on Aug 19, 2022 14:32:43 GMT
I think this car has been designed much more for the track than the road and the target market will be for track use (even though some people with too much money will still want one for the road) It has in car adjustable dampers on each corner for both bump and rebound as well as an in car adjustable diff - these things are pure track tools. As a track car i think it is awesome and I would love a drive. For the road (if I had the money) I would probably buy an under the radar Turbo or GT3 Touring and would be a bit embarrassed driving a GT3 RS This technology is highly impressive, especially if it is possible to soften it off to an acceptable state for road use (ideally softer than a 992 GT3...). But otherwise, I agree with Ed and franki. For me, the aesthetic sweet spot of the 992 range is the GTS. The Turbo does look good, but I think the GTS looks better. I'd take a GTS in 4WD flavour and reluctantly sell the Yaris I was about to put an order in for a gts targa but then realized how stupid it would be to sell my car,but yes the gts is very nice and so fast I'm really not sure where that places the turbo anymore. |
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Post by johnc on Aug 19, 2022 14:57:42 GMT
I have a client with a 992 Turbo. He was going to get the Turbo S but the noise of his 991.2 GTS on start up brought too many neighbourly complaints so he went for a slightly more subdued exhaust note this time. It still isn't what you would call quiet but it is a lovely thing to be in. It is smoother than the old GTS and rides better but it is ballistically quick and you'd have to be clinically insane to try to corner faster on the road, than it is able to do without breaking a sweat. On a track a GTS might have the edge in handling but as a road car the Turbo is immense.
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Post by Alex on Aug 21, 2022 9:16:35 GMT
I think it's quite clear that Porsche are no longer tailoring the RS models to be real world usable because the customer base is so self limited. Its all about how big an engineering achievement the model can be and a never ending quest to beat their own Nurburgring lap record.
The GTS is now the ultimate road going 911 for those who want to enjoy their car and keep a clean licence. The GT3 and RS models are just too much for public roads and probably offer too much for the talent of anyone who doesn't hold a racing licence.
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Post by franki68 on Aug 21, 2022 11:44:26 GMT
I think it's quite clear that Porsche are no longer tailoring the RS models to be real world usable because the customer base is so self limited. Its all about how big an engineering achievement the model can be and a never ending quest to beat their own Nurburgring lap record. The GTS is now the ultimate road going 911 for those who want to enjoy their car and keep a clean licence. The GT3 and RS models are just too much for public roads and probably offer too much for the talent of anyone who doesn't hold a racing licence. A gts is as quick as a gt3 so I am not sure how a gt3 can be too much for the road (it isn't trust me) . Bear in mind I have had both ,and when you are on a good empty road there is no comparison as good as a gts is. |
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Post by Alex on Aug 21, 2022 23:19:42 GMT
Fair enough if it is. I thought the GT3 was a more powerful car than the GTS and with it being that much more track focused was much quicker. I can't imagine I have anywhere approaching the skill required to make use of the GT3's performance and do so safely on public roads whereas the GTS looks much more accessible from that point of view. If you know anyone at Porsche who would like to help me be proven wrong I'm happy to have a go!
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Post by Martin on Aug 21, 2022 23:22:41 GMT
I think it's quite clear that Porsche are no longer tailoring the RS models to be real world usable because the customer base is so self limited. Its all about how big an engineering achievement the model can be and a never ending quest to beat their own Nurburgring lap record. The GTS is now the ultimate road going 911 for those who want to enjoy their car and keep a clean licence. The GT3 and RS models are just too much for public roads and probably offer too much for the talent of anyone who doesn't hold a racing licence. A gts is as quick as a gt3 so I am not sure how a gt3 can be too much for the road (it isn't trust me) . Bear in mind I have had both ,and when you are on a good empty road there is no comparison as good as a gts is. Have you driven the 992 GT3? I’ve never seen anything that says a 991 GT3 isn’t great on the road, but the 992 does seem to be a bit much for most. The 992 GTS has stepped up a bit as well, so I agree with Alex that if you want the new car, the GTS is the way to go. |
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Post by franki68 on Aug 23, 2022 8:16:36 GMT
A gts is as quick as a gt3 so I am not sure how a gt3 can be too much for the road (it isn't trust me) . Bear in mind I have had both ,and when you are on a good empty road there is no comparison as good as a gts is. Have you driven the 992 GT3? I’ve never seen anything that says a 991 GT3 isn’t great on the road, but the 992 does seem to be a bit much for most. The 992 GTS has stepped up a bit as well, so I agree with Alex that if you want the new car, the GTS is the way to go. Not driven 992 gt3 ,The issue with it on the road I’m told is the steering makes it feel nervous . Performance wise the gts is possibly quicker in the real world due to the torque but I’m not a fan of the 992 generation as I found it quite wide (first 911 I can’t open passenger door from drivers seat without some discomfort ) ,and the interior touch screen stuff . I know you are talking about the 992 but look at the prices ,a used 992 gts will cost you more than a 991.2gt3 ,for me I know where my money would go if I was looking . |
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