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Aug 7, 2024 15:32:45 GMT
Post by alf on Aug 7, 2024 15:32:45 GMT
Well that's a vote of confidence then. I can feel the warm glow of forum approval.....  Not from me you don't. They're our biggest competitor, that French lot  |
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Aug 9, 2024 15:02:48 GMT
Post by PG on Aug 9, 2024 15:02:48 GMT
Well that's a vote of confidence then. I can feel the warm glow of forum approval..... Not from me you don't. They're our biggest competitor, that French lot Well, OK, the part-warm glow of forum approval. |
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Aug 9, 2024 15:22:10 GMT
Post by Martin on Aug 9, 2024 15:22:10 GMT
Not from me you don't. They're our biggest competitor, that French lot Well, OK, the part-warm glow of forum approval. Don't worry too much. ALF doesn't have a full set of his employers tyres on his car iirc, so the strength of feeling/loyalty isn't that strong!  I'm very happy with my latest Michelin purchase, they have reduced the ride quality slightly, but there's a nice step up in handling/steering feel vs the Conti 5Ps. They look good too. My Dad noticed I had new tyres as soon as he pulled on the drive, "great looking sidewall" followed by "they look expensive"! |
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Aug 9, 2024 15:38:05 GMT
Post by alf on Aug 9, 2024 15:38:05 GMT
Funny he noticed! There are big differences. My (Alfa rear) GY Supersports - their most UHP tyre - have massive sidewall protectors. So do the Potenza Sports that I favour (I'm not sold on the GY to be honest as a road tyre, however well they might last on track compared to the Bridgestone, they are poor in wet or cool conditions and seem to take a lot of warming up). The slightly less "UHP" GY Assymetric fronts have no big sidewall protectors to speak of at all. It does alter the look. I'm currently in a weird situation with needing to order one front Potenza Sport front for the Alfa (it has one now following the demise of a GY Assymetric in a pothole) and two rears for the Porsche (to replace the two very old RE050 that keep me very awake in cool conditions). But what might have been a couple of quiet weeks has been bid-writing hell as I was roped into a major proposal writing exercise since the other UK partnerships person was on holiday when a lease company dropped an RFP on us. I'm just finishing my parts of that now and will get onto ordering them internally next week! Given my other motoring expenses, are you suprised I don't throw away nearly new tyres from the likes of GY and Michelin |
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Aug 9, 2024 15:52:11 GMT
Post by Martin on Aug 9, 2024 15:52:11 GMT
Funny he noticed! There are big differences. My (Alfa rear) GY Supersports - their most UHP tyre - have massive sidewall protectors. So do the Potenza Sports that I favour (I'm not sold on the GY to be honest as a road tyre, however well they might last on track compared to the Bridgestone, they are poor in wet or cool conditions and seem to take a lot of warming up). The slightly less "UHP" GY Assymetric fronts have no big sidewall protectors to speak of at all. It does alter the look. I'm currently in a weird situation with needing to order one front Potenza Sport front for the Alfa (it has one now following the demise of a GY Assymetric in a pothole) and two rears for the Porsche (to replace the two very old RE050 that keep me very awake in cool conditions). But what might have been a couple of quiet weeks has been bid-writing hell as I was roped into a major proposal writing exercise since the other UK partnerships person was on holiday when a lease company dropped an RFP on us. I'm just finishing my parts of that now and will get onto ordering them internally next week! Given my other motoring expenses, are you suprised I don't throw away nearly new tyres from the likes of GY and Michelin No, I'm not surprised! I've spent more on tyres than I needed to over the last couple of years, but that's because I have a serious aversion to mixed tyres and haven't had the level of other expenditure you've had (ignoring depreciation, as that's more capex than opex!) I've ditched 4 x Contis with plenty of life left (4-5mm) on the Golf for PS4S, as I was fed up of waiting for them to wear out and wanted some benefit from better tyres while we still owned the car. I've got 2 x Pirelli Verdes in the garage as 'spares' / law of sod beaters, with over c5mm of tread (must give them away) because I needed 2 new tyres and wanted a matching set. Then more recently when I needed new rears for the Panamera I didn't want to stick with the Conti 5P so replaced the fronts as well to avoid a mixed set. He was probably checking I'd cleaned it properly...but the PS4S do stand out quite well  |
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Aug 12, 2024 8:03:38 GMT
Post by Tim on Aug 12, 2024 8:03:38 GMT
I have the CrossClimates on the mighty Kia but have noticed they're quite noisy in hard cornering.
Otherwise happy with them.
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Sept 17, 2024 15:36:36 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Sept 17, 2024 15:36:36 GMT
An expensive month for tyres for me.
Had a puncture in the horse trailer yesterday while collecting some furniture from the MIL. All the tyres have some cracking in the treads - luckily the spare was OK, but that has a cover on it.
Date code was 4116 which ties in with the trailer being a 2017 model so I've ordered four new ones at £69 a pop for something called Kenda.
The BF Goodrich on the pickup are down to 4mm which means they will be useless this winter. I want to go up a size to lift the truck a touch and BF Goodrich are over £250 each for 5. I've settled on a set of General Grabber AT3 for £190 each, which is more palatable - I paid £180 each for the BFGs 5 years ago.
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Sept 17, 2024 16:21:10 GMT
Post by alf on Sept 17, 2024 16:21:10 GMT
An expensive month for tyres for me. Had a puncture in the horse trailer yesterday while collecting some furniture from the MIL. All the tyres have some cracking in the treads - luckily the spare was OK, but that has a cover on it. Date code was 4116 which ties in with the trailer being a 2017 model so I've ordered four new ones at £69 a pop for something called Kenda. The BF Goodrich on the pickup are down to 4mm which means they will be useless this winter. I want to go up a size to lift the truck a touch and BF Goodrich are over £250 each for 5. I've settled on a set of General Grabber AT3 for £190 each, which is more palatable - I paid £180 each for the BFGs 5 years ago. How much are the wheels from fleabay? I'm assuming the 4mm ones are better on dry tarmac, could you rotate two sets? That's always an issue with tyres - heacing iunto winter is the time to get new ones on, sometimes prematurely, unless running two sets... |
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Sept 17, 2024 16:59:53 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Sept 17, 2024 16:59:53 GMT
They are all terrains which are pretty poor in anything other than the dry when they get to 4mm. They do come with about 12mm of tread new and they have been on over 40k miles. They are also starting to whine like a bugger so it's time to change them.
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Sept 18, 2024 8:29:19 GMT
Post by alf on Sept 18, 2024 8:29:19 GMT
12mm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blimey.
My tyres come with 6.7mm new............. Which I think UHP tyres have started doing partly to help their dry-conditions lap times when group tested (invariably new). Doesn't help us, the consumer, much though...
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Post by PG on Sept 23, 2024 18:25:16 GMT
With all this torrential rain, I've had a good opportunity to see how the Cross Climates on the Mini feel. And I'm very impressed in wet and dry conditions.
And then there is the limo like silence from tyre noise compared to the Dunlop runflats I replaced. Mrs PG said she feels like its not the same car - it's way better!
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Sept 23, 2024 18:33:19 GMT
Post by Boxer6 on Sept 23, 2024 18:33:19 GMT
With all this torrential rain, I've had a good opportunity to see how the Cross Climates on the Mini feel. And I'm very impressed in wet and dry conditions. And then there is the limo like silence from tyre noise compared to the Dunlop runflats I replaced. Mrs PG said she feels like its not the same car - it's way better! Seriously considering putting as set of these on mine before winter comes, IF they come in the correct size. The Rainmasters on it just now are really noisy, so anything has to be better than them. |
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Post by alf on Sept 24, 2024 9:29:49 GMT
Have a look at this review, recent and comparing a bunch of all seasons with UHP summer and winter as well:
All Season tyres have come on a long way, there are more ones worth considering than before. But the differences between the tyres, in the different disciplines, are quite striking... Most disappointing to me is the wet weather handling performance of all seasons, worse than the control winter tyre, and miles off the summer. Wet handling and braking are the areas I think I look for the most in a tyre, and where I feel the biggest differences..
The Cross Climate 2 is amazing in snow, but very poor in the wet and poor in the dry as well. At least consider the others! The reviews this guy does are excellent...
For me, two sets are the way to go for high performance, mainly as you'll never achieve that feelsome, totally stuck-down feelings of a UHP summer tyre in hot weather otherwise. For a typical car, I'd consider all seasons as one set if not that heavy - but I'd choose one biased towards dry and wet weather (they're all vastly better than a summer tyre in snow).
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Sept 27, 2024 8:55:22 GMT
Post by Martin on Sept 27, 2024 8:55:22 GMT
I think that two sets are the way to go as well, but I'd have (and did on the Golf) decent all seasons as the winter set as the UK winter temperatures vary so much from week to week. That's not an option on the Panamera, so winters it is. Agree with you re running all seasons all year round.
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Sept 27, 2024 10:35:42 GMT
Post by Tim on Sept 27, 2024 10:35:42 GMT
I've got 2 sets for the BMW, the winters are full winters but they're not too bad in that warmer changeover period. I really need 2 sets of wheels though as its a faff getting the tyres swapped each time (it took 3 goes earlier this year  ) |
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Nov 17, 2024 12:00:20 GMT
Post by Martin on Nov 17, 2024 12:00:20 GMT
I put the winter tyres on my car this morning.
The point of the post though is tyre wear. The new set of PS4S were fitted 5,550 miles ago and it had a 4 wheel alignment done at the same time, mainly because the rear tyres were worn through on the inside edge. I’ve checked the tread and the rear are pretty evenly worn (5.8-6.0mm vs 6.5mm new) and have more tread than I expected. The fronts however are more worn and not evenly, they are 4.8mm on the inside edge and 5.5mm from the centre to the outside. Not an issue, just surprised as they wore more evenly on the old set and I can’t remember a car wearing the front tyres more quickly than the rears. Not even the Golf, there wasn’t much in it but the rears had a slightly higher wear rate.
I’ve mentioned before that the ride is firmer (especially at low speeds) with the PS4S than the Continentals, which means putting the winter tyres on which are on 20” wheels with lower pressures, has made a really noticeable difference. I’ve just run it up the road to set the pressure monitor and it’s like a comfort++ mode has been selected.
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Nov 18, 2024 10:13:48 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 18, 2024 10:13:48 GMT
Have a look at this review, recent and comparing a bunch of all seasons with UHP summer and winter as well: All Season tyres have come on a long way, there are more ones worth considering than before. But the differences between the tyres, in the different disciplines, are quite striking... Most disappointing to me is the wet weather handling performance of all seasons, worse than the control winter tyre, and miles off the summer. Wet handling and braking are the areas I think I look for the most in a tyre, and where I feel the biggest differences.. The Cross Climate 2 is amazing in snow, but very poor in the wet and poor in the dry as well. At least consider the others! The reviews this guy does are excellent... Pretty disappointing from the Cross Climate. I was considering a set for the X3 but, given we're far more likely to get very wet days than the odd sprinkling of snow, I'll look at the other options. |
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Nov 18, 2024 10:34:33 GMT
Post by johnc on Nov 18, 2024 10:34:33 GMT
I put my Michelin Alpin winters on at the weekend after reports of heavy frost and possible snow showers. I reckon my winters are very good in the wet and they have way more grip in wet or damp conditions than I would want to fully exploit on the public road.
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Nov 18, 2024 11:35:13 GMT
Post by Tim on Nov 18, 2024 11:35:13 GMT
I've been a bit disorganised this year and until Thursday still have the 'summer' tyres on the BMW.
I reckon the backs are down to 2mm so I won't be keeping them when everything gets swapped around.
Maybe this will be the winter when I finally get round to buying a 2nd set of wheels for it.......
Until Thursday I'll be relying on the 4wd of the Toyota, although maybe I'll be lucky with the weather.
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Nov 18, 2024 13:08:31 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on Nov 18, 2024 13:08:31 GMT
I am surprised at the CrossClimate result. Mine are by far the best wet weather tyres I have ever had and I always use premium tyres.
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Nov 18, 2024 13:25:51 GMT
Post by alf on Nov 18, 2024 13:25:51 GMT
I put my Michelin Alpin winters on at the weekend after reports of heavy frost and possible snow showers. I reckon my winters are very good in the wet and they have way more grip in wet or damp conditions than I would want to fully exploit on the public road. Me too! It feels great already, the Quad is amazing on winter tyres when all the other cars I've used them on felt a bit rubbish unless on actual snow. It is so eager to turn in, it doesn't have that vague understeery feel the Jags and 330 did on winters. In those tests, winter tyres generally did better than all seasons in the wet, and I don't think it was even cold/wet. In cold/wet conditions winters are night and day safer than summers for sure - I think the tyre tests are biased towards very deep water which is not that common. On typical greasy, damp, muddy cold shite, winters are ace! |
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