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Post by Tim on Jul 8, 2022 7:37:16 GMT
It is actually a bit of a shame that he's gone this way given his achievements. He did obliterate the Labour stronghold on the North (admittedly with Corbyns help), he did get Brexit done (badly I'll grant you and probably in a way that means it isn't really done, but done nonetheless) and he did get the vaccine supply right (just don't mention the toll on the nations mental health his blundering approach to lockdown has taken) and to be fair he has been seen internationally to be much stronger in his stance on Russia than the French and Germans which means a lot to many of our fellow Brits. But at the end of the day he has finally been called out for being the Big Billy Bullshitter that he is and has been throughout a political career which will see him be studied by historians as the ultimate example of failing to the top. It's worth remembering that 'HE' didn't achieve any of these things singlehandedly. Even if you want to consider them as a success (the vaccine rollout is the only 1 I would say qualifies) he was just the overseer, i.e. without legions of researchers, volunteers and people to stick needles in folk none of the vaccine wouldnt've worked. Seeing how Boris goes about things I think that was success DESPITE him rather than because of...... |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 8, 2022 10:42:47 GMT
Yes agreed.
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Post by Alex on Jul 8, 2022 11:07:16 GMT
I was writing that with my tongue in my cheek!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 8, 2022 13:29:03 GMT
It is actually a bit of a shame that he's gone this way given his achievements. He did obliterate the Labour stronghold on the North (admittedly with Corbyns help), he did get Brexit done (badly I'll grant you and probably in a way that means it isn't really done, but done nonetheless) and he did get the vaccine supply right (just don't mention the toll on the nations mental health his blundering approach to lockdown has taken) and to be fair he has been seen internationally to be much stronger in his stance on Russia than the French and Germans which means a lot to many of our fellow Brits. But at the end of the day he has finally been called out for being the Big Billy Bullshitter that he is and has been throughout a political career which will see him be studied by historians as the ultimate example of failing to the top. It's worth remembering that 'HE' didn't achieve any of these things singlehandedly. Even if you want to consider them as a success (the vaccine rollout is the only 1 I would say qualifies) he was just the overseer, i.e. without legions of researchers, volunteers and people to stick needles in folk none of the vaccine wouldnt've worked. Seeing how Boris goes about things I think that was success DESPITE him rather than because of...... So what you're saying is that anything that was successful was despite him and anything unsuccessful was solely because of him? Sounds legit.. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 8, 2022 15:55:26 GMT
If you reverse that, it’s definitely the way Johnson sees things, you must admit!!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 8, 2022 21:12:20 GMT
If you reverse that, it’s definitely the way Johnson sees things, you must admit!! That’s the point, neither spin is wholly correct. |
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Post by Tim on Jul 11, 2022 8:58:41 GMT
It's worth remembering that 'HE' didn't achieve any of these things singlehandedly. Even if you want to consider them as a success (the vaccine rollout is the only 1 I would say qualifies) he was just the overseer, i.e. without legions of researchers, volunteers and people to stick needles in folk none of the vaccine wouldnt've worked. Seeing how Boris goes about things I think that was success DESPITE him rather than because of...... So what you're saying is that anything that was successful was despite him and anything unsuccessful was solely because of him? Sounds legit.. I don't think that's quite what I'm saying, it's certainly not what I meant to say. More that it's a group effort and from what I've seen of Boris' methods he couldn't organise a piss up in a governmental building by himself. However he hasn't stifled the activities of those who have brought forward any successful programmes so at least he doesn't appear to screw things up by micromanaging. |
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