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Post by grampa on Jul 4, 2017 16:28:25 GMT
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Post by michael on Jul 4, 2017 16:31:22 GMT
I'm going to have to measure him by the fact he's painted his headlights black.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 16:42:19 GMT
Difficult but I know where he is coming from, plenty of drivers park like that without a reason for doing so other than being complete airheads. Years ago in a supermarket I heard my number plate over the tannoy. A helpful customer tells me he saw another driver take his bumper down the side of Bess, the WHOLE side of the car. I got the staff member to call out the number of the offending car and a few minutes later Mr and MRS hippo walked up, he says, "So what, just a car and knock for knock". I pointed out my car was already parked he made an axcuse and made to walk away so I casually remarked to the staff member at customer services if they sold brake fluid and thinners. Two minutes later I have his insurance details and two hundred notes in my sweaty mits. Rubber bumper, mostly polished out, thankfully. Thing is that these places are dangerous. How many of us have seen low-life's dumping a trolley by pushing it into the parking area? Sometimes bad parking can be understood, perhaps not condoned but understood.
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Post by Andy C on Jul 4, 2017 16:51:31 GMT
Sympathy ? Am I missing something here ?
What a prick
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 4, 2017 17:59:32 GMT
Yup.
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Post by Ben on Jul 4, 2017 18:04:36 GMT
While I don't condone nor enjoy it, sadly scratches and dings are a part and parcel of driving and parking in public spaces. They're not an excuse to act like a twat and deny others a rightful parking spot.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 4, 2017 18:14:07 GMT
He's not the first; can't remember when I posted this, but you've seen it before! (Managed to rescue it from photobucket just now)
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Post by Alex on Jul 4, 2017 20:02:23 GMT
I have sympathy for him if he's had scratches and dents from careless drivers opening doors into his car or scraping the bumpers whilst getting into an adjacent space. It's happened to me and these days people just don't own up and leave a note. A combination of increased insurance repair costs and price comparison sites offering cheaper insurance in return for a voluntary excess makes honesty a much more expensive game.
However, I really can't condone his actions. However much he's worried about his car being damaged, there's no excuse for selfishly taking spaces that three other drivers could have used, especially if it's busy. If he really is bothered he should either shop when it's quieter or find a space at the far end of the car park and be prepared to walk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 20:15:51 GMT
I park as far from the store entry as I can, usually better as the twats tend to get as near as possible or in the disable/parent spaces.
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 4, 2017 20:30:15 GMT
No sympathy; you buy a car, you have to accept the rules, one of which is: one car, one parking space in a car park. It's selfish and irresponsible to take up more space than necessary "just because"; what happens if that person were to fly, would they sit in a middle seat and refuse to let anyone sit next to them "in case you move a bit during the flight, and bruise my arm" ?
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Post by Stuntman on Jul 4, 2017 20:51:08 GMT
^^^ Not quite an equivalent analogy, a bruised arm will self-heal but a bruised car will not. But I generally agree with the Forum consensus of no sympathy and I speak as someone who has had his carefully-parked car bashed into on numerous occasions in works and hotel car parks over the past few years. The M3 is currently bearing some new scars from my current works car park, after having had previous ones repaired twice in the last 3 years at my expense.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 4, 2017 20:58:37 GMT
I just wish people would take care and accept responsibility for their own actions, but that is a whole topic by itself.
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Post by Tim on Jul 5, 2017 9:51:35 GMT
I'd have more sympathy if he'd parked across 2 spaces instead of 4. The comment in the article “Tell him to get better insurance. One that covers vandalism." rather misses the point. The guy shouldn't have to.
However, as others have said, parking a long way from the entrance is usually a good starting point to protect your car.
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 5, 2017 10:06:22 GMT
I just wish people would take care and accept responsibility for their own actions, but that is a whole topic by itself. This. The guy parking over 4 spaces is a twat: 2 will do. I am currently parked in an underground car park next to an M2. He'll be as worried about his as I am about mine so all well and good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 10:24:03 GMT
Don't get me onto people who take up `mother and toddler' parking. It's not about the distance to the shop, wider bays just makes getting 3 kids out of the car that little bit easier. .
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Post by johnc on Jul 5, 2017 10:46:03 GMT
I think some of the lack of concern about damaging other people's property comes from the fact that perpetrators never get punished. The Police aren't interested unless someone has been hurt.
However if there was some quick system where car park CCTV evidence could be used to prosecute and fine an individual for damage and force a claim on their insurance, attitudes might change. The issue might be getting sufficiently detailed CCTV footage but at least where it exists, punishment should be possible.
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Post by Blarno on Jul 5, 2017 12:12:12 GMT
Sympathy ? Am I missing something here ? What a prick That. It's a fucking 10 year old SEAT Leon. That said, even if it were a McLaren F1, there is no excuse to take up 4 spaces. Unless you are a selfish cunt.
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Post by michael on Jul 5, 2017 13:50:48 GMT
This is one area the Volvo does well being dressed in dodgem style cladding around it's entire perimeter. Other people are the least of its worries given the strength of the paint. Bird crap left for seconds will damage the paintwork while simply looking at it seems to cause minor scratches. I'm tempted to have it checked to see if a coat of lacquer was ever put on.
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Post by Ben on Jul 5, 2017 15:15:45 GMT
I think some of the lack of concern about damaging other people's property comes from the fact that perpetrators never get punished. The Police aren't interested unless someone has been hurt.
However if there was some quick system where car park CCTV evidence could be used to prosecute and fine an individual for damage and force a claim on their insurance, attitudes might change. The issue might be getting sufficiently detailed CCTV footage but at least where it exists, punishment should be possible. This. Very much this. There was a rather infamous case around here a while back where, even with clear video evidence, a case of intentional vandalism was left unpunished. The police basically told the owner to file a civil suit as it involved personal property. What utter bollocks.
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Post by Alex on Jul 5, 2017 16:44:34 GMT
This is one area the Volvo does well being dressed in dodgem style cladding around it's entire perimeter. Other people are the least of its worries given the strength of the paint. Bird crap left for seconds will damage the paintwork while simply looking at it seems to cause minor scratches. I'm tempted to have it checked to see if a coat of lacquer was ever put on. It's nowt to do with the lacquer or lack of it. It's the fact the paints have to be water based these days and certain chemicals that used to make them impervious to bird mess are no longer allowed. That said some are better than others in this respect. My Focus and Insignia were really prone to damage even after just a few hours whereas I left the Golf for three days in a long stay car park and the bird that shit on it was entirely unsuccessful in its vandalism. The Megane didn't suffer either. So maybe it is the paint Volvo use but I can tell you now they won't cover it under warranty.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 5, 2017 16:46:35 GMT
My Subaru paint was incredibly soft. My MY2000 V40 was pretty good, but my dad's MY2005 S80 was destroyed by bird shit. It ate right down to the metal.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 5, 2017 16:58:34 GMT
Where possible I'll park leaving an empty space either side, or position myself so that nearby drivers have as much room as possible to get their door open. It seems to work as I've not had a parking ding in 20 years and all my cars have had unmarked flanks.
I do have a blow up Phil Mitchell look alike that I leave in the passenger seat mind.
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Post by michael on Jul 5, 2017 17:49:34 GMT
It's nowt to do with the lacquer or lack of it. It's the fact the paints have to be water based these days and certain chemicals that used to make them impervious to bird mess are no longer allowed. That said some are better than others in this respect. My Focus and Insignia were really prone to damage even after just a few hours whereas I left the Golf for three days in a long stay car park and the bird that shit on it was entirely unsuccessful in its vandalism. The Megane didn't suffer either. So maybe it is the paint Volvo use but I can tell you now they won't cover it under warranty. I do agree and I was being facetious to an extent but it's that I've never had a car that's been so affected by poor paint and this is coming from someone who has has owned three FIATs (capitalised for you, Simon) and an Alfa Romeo.
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Post by PG on Jul 5, 2017 17:52:32 GMT
Sympathy ? Am I missing something here ? What a prick That. It's a fucking 10 year old SEAT Leon.... It's be karma if somebody scratched "wanker" down the side of his car. Just park at the extremities of the car park and walk a bit farther if you are worried. I do agree with the CCTV comment too - it does need to be a two way enforcement.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 5, 2017 21:17:21 GMT
It's nowt to do with the lacquer or lack of it. It's the fact the paints have to be water based these days and certain chemicals that used to make them impervious to bird mess are no longer allowed. That said some are better than others in this respect. My Focus and Insignia were really prone to damage even after just a few hours whereas I left the Golf for three days in a long stay car park and the bird that shit on it was entirely unsuccessful in its vandalism. The Megane didn't suffer either. So maybe it is the paint Volvo use but I can tell you now they won't cover it under warranty. I do agree and I was being facetious to an extent but it's that I've never had a car that's been so affected by poor paint and this is coming from someone who has has owned three FIATs (capitalised for you, Simon) and an Alfa Romeo. My dad had Volvos every three years from 1982 on, the first being a bright yellow 244GL. I'm fairly sure his next one, a metallic silver 245GLE, was the last non-water based paint as the next metallic pale blue 740GLT was definitely water based. That car was plagued with paint issues from day one, and he really had to keep on top of things almost monthly with wax and polish to keep things looking good. His last two were V70 and V50 T5's, so the go-factor made up for it a bit!
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 6, 2017 7:03:39 GMT
I do agree with the CCTV comment too - it does need to be a two way enforcement. CCTV "coverage" is crap; my Fiesta was damaged by a careless door opener whilst parked at LHR T5 Pod parking when I was on holiday in May. When I wrote and explained and asked if there was any CCTV evidence I was told that the CCTV coverage is only on the entrance and exit to the car park, there is no coverage over the parked cars. Anyone else planning to use this car park, please take note.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 6, 2017 7:55:13 GMT
I do agree with the CCTV comment too - it does need to be a two way enforcement. CCTV "coverage" is crap; my Fiesta was damaged by a careless door opener whilst parked at LHR T5 Pod parking when I was on holiday in May. When I wrote and explained and asked if there was any CCTV evidence I was told that the CCTV coverage is only on the entrance and exit to the car park, there is no coverage over the parked cars. Anyone else planning to use this car park, please take note. I don't think it's practical to have CCTV coverage over the entire carpark, including close up of individual cars, which is what you'd need. Even if you did then get video evidence you'd have all the hassle of tracing the car involved, the driver and then insurance wrangling. Having done all that you'd find that any recompense you received would be outweighed by additional insurance rates caused by a non-fault claim. Time and effort alone would negate the £80 or so it would cost to get Dentmaster or some such company to fix it.
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Post by Tim on Jul 6, 2017 9:17:09 GMT
People are funny about parking. I remember when my Alfa was about 2 weeks old I parked it at the furthest point of the Tesco car park in Perth. When I came back there were cars in each space either side and then a gap of at least 30 yards I was irritated but on checking carefully there were no marks. My parents told me they once parked at West Sands at St Andrews, it was mid-winter and theirs was the only car until somebody came and parked right next to them, close enough so you couldn't open the door fully! It's a herding mentality
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 6, 2017 18:50:17 GMT
I just wish people would take care and accept responsibility for their own actions, but that is a whole topic by itself. This. The guy parking over 4 spaces is a twat: 2 will do. I am currently parked in an underground car park next to an M2. He'll be as worried about his as I am about mine so all well and good. You'd think. But I once parked the M135i in a B&Q carpark next to a spotless E60 M5 Touring, was inside for maximum 10 minutes, came outside, the Touring was gone and there was a socking great dent (the vertical sort made by hitting it with an open door) in the side of my car.
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