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Post by garry on Oct 4, 2021 8:52:19 GMT
Boils my piss that a group of middle class self righteous wankers think that they can block roads in an attempt to hold the government to ransom. What I find most frustrating is that the media give them exactly what they want - the name of their group plastered everywhere, a spokesperson for them on TV. There should be a blackout on them so that they get starved of the publicity they crave.
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Post by michael on Oct 4, 2021 9:31:34 GMT
I saw the clip of the police officer making sure they were all comfortable whilst failing to do anything about the obstruction. I’m pretty sure if I drove my car up to one of these idiots and held my hand on the horn the police would then act but against me.
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 4, 2021 10:16:40 GMT
Its our own fault that we let these protesters behave as they do. The Police don't seem to have any powers to move them on and they threaten motorists that they will be arrested for Common assualt if they get involved. Its no wonder they feel so empowered.
I do have sympathy for the Police they use force and its all over the media as them being brutal, leave them in peace and its encouraging this behavior. Best thing to do would be for the Police to remove themselves from the scene and let the motorists deal with the situation at hand.
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Post by Alex on Oct 4, 2021 10:25:01 GMT
The Police are almost having to babysit the situation to ensure the safety of all participants. Once they got the injunction from the government they were able to quite quickly move them off the M25 and associated roads but when they move on to different routes such as this mornings protests they have to again wait for permission which seems absurd.
I'm not overly sure what they hope to achieve. Most new homes built since 1990 have been pretty well insulated, especially if they've the identikit timber frame units most housebuilding have been building and older homes have been given grants to improve their insulation so these things are happening. If they're worried out pollution why is causing a traffic jam that increases pollution seen by this group as a good idea?
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 4, 2021 11:23:19 GMT
I heard the twat in charge has done nothing to make sure his own home is anywhere near efficient, but that’s just hearsay.
The French had a similar problem during the “yellow vest protests” but that was largely dealt with as Ed suggested, plus the French are used to a bit more running street violence with le gendarmerie. I’m just wondering how the Taliban would deal with this kind of thing……
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Post by Blarno on Oct 4, 2021 11:31:24 GMT
Vigilantes, that's what we need.
Hire a bus or coach, gather up a few local hardnuts and a few thousand zip ties. Go steaming in, grab all the sweaty grebbers, zip tie their hands together and shove them on the bus. Drive the bus to a rural location and let them go. Repeat until they're all gone or shit their pants and leave of their own accord.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 11:42:12 GMT
I wonder if we could do a 'swap' with the Taliban? exchange some of our folk for those that want to leave Afghanistan. Win win?
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Post by michael on Oct 4, 2021 11:47:03 GMT
I heard the twat in charge has done nothing to make sure his own home is anywhere near efficient, but that’s just hearsay. He stormed off a morning TV show because he was challenged on this. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Oct 4, 2021 12:02:24 GMT
I'd be really happy if the government reinstated the home insulation scheme. They closed it without warning just when we bought a new house and needed it.
As these tossers on the roads, someone is going to get seriously injured or killed. It'll happen. There are offences the police can deal with them for. The problem is criticism whichever way they deal with it and that leads to a lack of action.
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Post by PG on Oct 4, 2021 12:22:45 GMT
The stupid Supreme Court utterly fucked over the police and 99.9% of the populace with their judgement in the Ziegler case, basically saying that under the Human Rights Act, the right to protest can over-ride the laws's ability to remove people from the highway. Hence, I think, the need for all these ridiculous injunctions to remove people from a motorway. It's given this bunch and the dreadful XR pretty much a free hand, even more so than they had before with the police standing watching far too often. www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/supreme-court-backs-protesters-and-rules-blocking-roads-can-be-lawful-way-to-demonstrate/ar-AALr8lswww.supremecourt.uk/press-summary/uksc-2019-0106.html In the absence of some common sense, I can't help thinking that blarno's solution of vigilantism is probably the only way that this sort of thing gets stopped. Although I did read somewhere that the latest Crime bill on route through Parliament (the one that had had the left shouting abiout) has sections to limit this right under HR law. And about bloody time. |
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Post by michael on Oct 4, 2021 12:26:54 GMT
As much as the activists are bell-ends, the gormless wankers stood filming everything with a bloody mobile phone annoy me almost as much.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 4, 2021 17:08:52 GMT
Apparently they held a protest half a mile away from our house, on Wandsworth Bridge. Not having reason to leave the house, I did not notice.
I doubtless would get pretty angry if I found myself stuck in my car unable to move as a result, so have every sympathy with those who are stuck. But in the grand scheme of things, there are bigger problems.
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Post by michael on Oct 4, 2021 17:48:18 GMT
I saw the clip of the woman desperate to get her mother to her cancer appointment and the protestors refusing to move. The problem is they're zealots and like any fanatic they see themselves as righteous, the end justifies the means. False idols attract all kind of nutters, they usually end up doing daft things in the highways for some reason.
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Post by Alex on Oct 4, 2021 18:11:59 GMT
There was another clip of them refusing to move for an ambulance trying to attend an emergency with motorist dragging the protesters off the road only for them to continually scramble back in front of the traffic and even ignoring the plees of paramedics asking to be let through. They seem to have been taking the attitude that their cause trumped the life that was potentially in urgent need of saving. Not a way to win friends.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 19:13:50 GMT
The idiot on the daytime program was challenged on this but said that "It's sad that people have to sacrifice their life to get action but that's how it is".
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 4, 2021 19:30:24 GMT
The problem is they're zealots and like any fanatic they see themselves as righteous, the end justifies the means. False idols attract all kind of nutters It's become something of a theme in this country of late. |
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 4, 2021 20:58:48 GMT
The problem is they're zealots and like any fanatic they see themselves as righteous, the end justifies the means. False idols attract all kind of nutters It's become something of a theme in this country of late. It's anarchy, we cannot have a small group of people holding tens of thousands to ransom (inconveniencing daily lives) for the sake of what they perceive to be a good cause. Where are the water cannons when you need them? |
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 4, 2021 21:45:44 GMT
It's become something of a theme in this country of late. It's anarchy, we cannot have a small group of people holding tens of thousands to ransom (inconveniencing daily lives) for the sake of what they perceive to be a good cause. Where are the water cannons when you need them? It often happens in democracies - the tail wags the dog. A vociferous zealous minority makes enough noise to get its way on a topic on which the general public is generally indifferent. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 5, 2021 5:47:40 GMT
It's anarchy, we cannot have a small group of people holding tens of thousands to ransom (inconveniencing daily lives) for the sake of what they perceive to be a good cause. Where are the water cannons when you need them? It often happens in democracies - the tail wags the dog. A vociferous zealous minority makes enough noise to get its way on a topic on which the general public is generally indifferent. I suppose, in this democracy, the Government could offer the electorate a referendum on insulating Britain, and a majority vote to insulate Britain, then the Government could deliver an insulated Britain. No? |
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Post by Blarno on Oct 5, 2021 8:31:22 GMT
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Post by PG on Oct 5, 2021 9:07:35 GMT
Good on those guys trying to remove them. Members of the public need to start carrying cable ties and attaching these prats to the lamp posts as they drag them off. Then they can't crawl back. Leave them there for a few days, that'll learn them.
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Post by Big Blue on Oct 5, 2021 9:16:54 GMT
I find it intriguing that people think that by disrupting the lives of other people’s day-to-day working lives is going to align them to their cause in some way. I always feel the same about tube strikes that are unrelated to mass redundancy or scything service changes. It just annoys a large element of the public and makes your goal unobtainable via public opinion.
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 5, 2021 11:03:01 GMT
Think is, with global warming, why would you want to insulate your house more than it currently is, anyway? Gets so hot in summer that even with windows open, you can't get it cool enough to be comfortable.
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Post by Martin on Oct 5, 2021 11:07:29 GMT
Think is, with global warming, why would you want to insulate your house more than it currently is, anyway? Gets so hot in summer that even with windows open, you can't get it cool enough to be comfortable. Eh? Surely Insulation will keep the house cooler in the summer? |
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 5, 2021 11:14:29 GMT
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No, the sun gets in through the windows.... maybe if we had to have triple glazing with UV reflective film.......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 11:18:21 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 5, 2021 11:21:55 GMT
Think is, with global warming, why would you want to insulate your house more than it currently is, anyway? Gets so hot in summer that even with windows open, you can't get it cool enough to be comfortable. And for my next question; my Thermos flask can keep hot liquids hot, and cold liquids cold. But how does it know? Highly insulated homes remain cooler in summer and warmer in winter. The insulation works both ways, Chris. |
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Post by ChrisM on Oct 5, 2021 11:31:26 GMT
And for my next question; my Thermos flask can keep hot liquids hot, and cold liquids cold. But how does it know? Reminds me of the David Beckham joke, "so what have you got inside your flask?" "Choc ice and coffee" |
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Post by chipbutty on Oct 5, 2021 12:16:28 GMT
I am starting a new protest group, we are called “ Insulate Britain….from Insulate Britain “
Once it is known where they live, they get blockaded in their houses so they can’t leave, and then a lorry load of expanding foam is pumped through the letter box.
Easy to be a climate hero when you’ve got a 9 pack of quilted bog roll and a cupboard full of twixes.
In all seriousness, surely there must be lawsuits to begin if these arse biscuits are wilfully blocking ambulances ?
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