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Post by Roadrunner on May 9, 2021 22:13:13 GMT
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Post by Andy C on May 10, 2021 6:29:18 GMT
Looks like a polestar ! Cracking first car . How much more is the insurance on that than say a 1.0 Corsa ?
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Post by Roadrunner on May 10, 2021 6:49:44 GMT
I don't know the difference in cost, just that it isn't much more and is less than a relatively ordinary Golf.
Apparently, the Polestar badge is just for show. That would have blown the insurance out of the water. It will still have plenty of get up and go for a first car and will be more lively than the farm jalopy / spare car Fiesta 1.2 which he has been driving up until now.
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Post by Martin on May 10, 2021 6:51:11 GMT
My eldest sons best mate has a C30, slightly older I think, but insurance wasn’t a lot more than less interesting stuff like a Corsa.
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Post by Andy C on May 10, 2021 7:13:12 GMT
I don't know the difference in cost, just that it isn't much more and is less than a relatively ordinary Golf. Apparently, the Polestar badge is just for show. That would have blown the insurance out of the water. It will still have plenty of get up and go for a first car and will be more lively than the farm jalopy / spare car Fiesta 1.2 which he has been driving up until now. Didn’t even notice the badge , I just meant the colour, wheels , tints etc . Will go down well with all his pals anyway .
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Post by Tim on May 10, 2021 7:39:51 GMT
£7,500 for a first car for an 18 year old!
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Post by Big Blue on May 10, 2021 9:45:02 GMT
£7,500 for a first car for an 18 year old! Maths for this: My first car was £650. At the time (1986) a new SAAB 900i was around £8,500 (only data I could find at short notice). So that's 7.6% of the price for a first car v a new car. Current 5er Touring with options is £70k so that £7,500 first car is 10.7% of the price of a new car. My first car was shit and you wouldn't want to crash in it (or indeed have a driveshaft UJ seize at high speed on the A3 and rip the back of the gearbox off) whereas that Volvo probably justifies the increase in percentage cost vs new with being safer, better equipped and more reliable, plus I bet a 1986 5 series was more than that SAAB.
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Post by Martin on May 10, 2021 10:23:43 GMT
£7,500 for a first car for an 18 year old! Maths for this: My first car was £650. At the time (1986) a new SAAB 900i was around £8,500 (only data I could find at short notice). So that's 7.6% of the price for a first car v a new car. Current 5er Touring with options is £70k so that £7,500 first car is 10.7% of the price of a new car. My first car was shit and you wouldn't want to crash in it (or indeed have a driveshaft UJ seize at high speed on the A3 and rip the back of the gearbox off) whereas that Volvo probably justifies the increase in percentage cost vs new with being safer, better equipped and more reliable, plus I bet a 1986 5 series was more than that SAAB. Or another way of doing the maths, £650 in 1986 is about £2,000 in 2021. My Nephew bought an £1,800 Corsa and it was a false economy really, as it started to cost money and there was a risk of it letting him down. So with some help from Bank of Granny (which he's paying back) he's now got a really nice 2018 Seat Ibiza SE Tech (aircon, panoramic sunroof, LED headlights, upgraded alloys etc) which cost just under £8,000 from a main dealer. He's got 2 x jobs ( 1 full and 1 part time) and is paying for it all himself, plus he's taken a lot of advice on looking after it and it's immaculate.
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Post by Big Blue on May 10, 2021 13:27:29 GMT
The cost of cash cannot be compared to the cost of things, hence my comparison with things that are similar.
Beer is close to the cash comparator, being about 4x cost over the '85-today range; bread 1.5x; milk 1.7x but the average price of a 3 bed semi in 1985 was £28k; it's now £253k, and over £500k where I live making that £650 v £7,500 a pretty normal change in the circumstances.
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Post by Andy C on May 10, 2021 13:30:52 GMT
£7,500 for a first car for an 18 year old! If he can afford it I don’t see the issue - it will be safer and more reliable than some shitty corsa
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Post by Tim on May 10, 2021 13:36:53 GMT
£7,500 for a first car for an 18 year old! If he can afford it I don’t see the issue - it will be safer and more reliable than some shitty corsa Agreed. Maybe it's just because when I was 18 all the people I knew that got a car ended up with something cheap and shitty which taught you some basic mechanical skills. Nobody's parents splashed much cash apart from maybe contributing a bit towards the price. As said before though you wouldnt've wanted to have a crash in one, although of course several did.
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Post by chipbutty on May 10, 2021 15:03:31 GMT
£7,500 for a 9 year old 1.6 diesel is a whole hill of beans. I know Rona has skewed things somewhat, but that seems poor VFM to me, especially as it's ripe for dropping some bills.
I've driven a C30, a 1.6 petrol and it was horrible, a focus is a much nicer car to drive.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 10, 2021 16:34:16 GMT
Well, he had done a deal and collects it later this week. It has just had £1,000 worth of new discs, pads and Yokhama tyres fitted all round and is, apparently, very tidy.
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Post by PG on May 11, 2021 9:24:32 GMT
I've driven a C30, a 1.6 petrol and it was horrible, a focus is a much nicer car to drive. I've had few V40's and one C30 as a loan car. Based on the V40, I expected to hate the C30, but actually liked it. Agreed, it was not the last word in a sporting drive, but just felt like a nicely put together, "different" smaller car. The Focus may be a better drive, but the Volvo was a nicer place to sit. If I had a choice between a C30 and Focus I'd take the C30. Don't worry, I'll tie myself to the stake so I can be stoned now.....
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Post by garry on May 11, 2021 9:53:37 GMT
I would have thought £7.5k would get you into a two year old decent supermini. Can't see the value in this car at the age and price. Each to their own
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Post by chipbutty on May 11, 2021 18:26:06 GMT
I had a C30 courtesy car when my S60 was in for rattle repair attempt number x..so it would have been a 2008 model. The 1.6 petrol allegedly produced 100 bhp, but without any hyperbole, it is the slowest car I have ever driven to the extent that I thought it was broken. There is a thread on that experience somewhere on a previous forum, but the biggest disappointment was the intermittently crashy ride despite the lack of any sporting intent and the interior was cheerlessly bland (Scandi chic minimalism taken a step too far). I often wondered how Volvo could take that platform and make such a pig's ear of it, especially given the chassis tuning talent of their parent company.
However - this is all IMO and I don't want to take away from the buzz or excitement of a chap's first car - so I hope he's bought a good one and he loves owning it.
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