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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 11:40:03 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 11:40:03 GMT
Slightly startled, if pleasantly so, by the report I got from BMW Battersea on the state of my tyres, being the original ones supplied by the factory.
Fronts - evenly 7mm, rears evenly 6mm.
The car has 32k miles on the clock. Ok, so probably around 40% of that has been on the winter tyres, but I am still impressed.
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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 12:44:57 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Mar 14, 2021 12:44:57 GMT
Must try harder! 😉
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Mar 14, 2021 12:55:58 GMT
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Post by Martin on Mar 14, 2021 12:55:58 GMT
That was my first thought too! It is impressively low wear for a RWD car.
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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 13:45:37 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 13:45:37 GMT
I did think that but I guess most of the mileage is motorway driving, so although I don’t hang around, the tyres do probably get an easy life most of the time.
I have to say this particular model has, so far, been extremely fit for purpose. Not expensive to run for the performance on offer.
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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 13:48:23 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 13:48:23 GMT
This particular set of tyres took us all the way from London to the tip of the heel of Italy and back last year with 4 months of whizzing around in between to places like Venice and Turin, which amounted to getting on for 10k miles. I’d have expected more tyre wear not least because Italian motorway speeds are rather higher than here.
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Post by garry on Mar 14, 2021 15:15:27 GMT
Slightly startled, if pleasantly so, by the report I got from BMW Battersea on the state of my tyres, being the original ones supplied by the factory. Fronts - evenly 7mm, rears evenly 6mm. The car has 32k miles on the clock. Ok, so probably around 40% of that has been on the winter tyres, but I am still impressed. I thought new tyres only had 8mm of tread?
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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 16:54:22 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 16:54:22 GMT
Well quite. Hence my amazement.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 14, 2021 17:27:43 GMT
I’d have expected more tyre wear not least because Italian motorway speeds are rather higher than here. I may be wrong but I think that motorway driving doesn't wear tyres much, it's cornering that does a lot of "damage" due to scrubbing effects. I'm pleasantly surprised that the front tyres on my Fiesta are lasting much better than I expected since I corner somewhat enthusiastically in it, plus there are loads of roundabouts near where I live. They're Contis (205/40VR17), and whereas previously I've been a bit of a Michelin fan, when they do need replacing I will be sorely tempted to put Contis on it again
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Tyre wear
Mar 14, 2021 18:10:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 18:10:53 GMT
You should see how long some mountain bike tyres last - sometimes a couple of hundred miles a set, £50 each.
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Mar 14, 2021 18:15:06 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 18:15:06 GMT
I wondered if it was because much of the mileage was accumulated on smooth European tarmac rather than cratered coarse UK tarmac?
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Mar 14, 2021 18:25:37 GMT
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Post by michael on Mar 14, 2021 18:25:37 GMT
That’s really low. I suspect you’re right that it’s motorway miles are easy on the rubber. Is your car quite light?
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Mar 14, 2021 20:58:04 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 14, 2021 20:58:04 GMT
No, not really - 1630kg in this version according to Parkers
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Post by michael on Mar 15, 2021 12:40:22 GMT
I wonder if the tyres are now developed more for the benefit of SUVs and their added weight. I'd imagine your particular tyre size will also be common to the X3/4 which will undoubtedly carry additional timber.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 15, 2021 13:45:43 GMT
My tyres (Bridgestones) are similar - I've currently got 38k on the clock and the fronts are at 6mm. Both rears were replaced a couple of thousand miles ago when I got a puncture but they still had 5mm on them. With the 4 wheel drive the wear rates front to back are quite similar.
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Post by bryan on Mar 15, 2021 14:16:47 GMT
The Evoque had magic tyres - went back to the lease co with 60k on the clock with c 4mm tread left..... I queried this wear with the garage one day - commenting that most of the tyres I buy from Kwik Fit etc seem to last c 20k and the response came back that the manufacturer supplied ones from factory often have different longer lasting compounds than those you can buy as a member of the public - not sure why, probably so they don't have to replace the tyres on a fully maintained lease deal!
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 15, 2021 14:17:43 GMT
Think mine are Bridgestones - probably the same or virtually the same tyre as yours.
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Post by Tim on Mar 15, 2021 14:18:23 GMT
I'd done about about 35k on a set of Goodyears on the last 320 when I replaced the fronts. It would've had the same size tyres as Jonny's and Bob's (225/40x19 and 255/35x19) but I did hardly any motorway driving and liked to push on as hard as possible on a few twisty stretches local to me. My mind is still in the 90s when a set of tyres on a fwd car would maybe last 18k if you swapped them front to back at some point.
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Post by Martin on Mar 15, 2021 14:39:18 GMT
I'd done about about 35k on a set of Goodyears on the last 320 when I replaced the fronts. It would've had the same size tyres as Jonny's and Bob's (225/40x19 and 255/35x19) but I did hardly any motorway driving and liked to push on as hard as possible on a few twisty stretches local to me. My mind is still in the 90s when a set of tyres on a fwd car would maybe last 18k if you swapped them front to back at some point. I used to have the tyres swapped front to rear at every service on my 406 estate (company car) and they just about lasted to the following service so 12,000 miles for a full set. The Boxster could just about get 10k out of a set of rears, but they were super soft compound, so the opposite of the ones fitted to the RR which will last longer than any other tyres I've had based on how worn they are now. I assume they are the same tyres as fitted to Bryan's Ewok and it's the most gently driven car I've ever had which will help. I measured them when I bought it, with 10k miles covered and the fronts had 9mm and the rears 8mm but I've no idea if they were replaced in its first year. Just had a look and the rears on the 750 lasted 29k miles, which backs up the point that factory fit Bridgstones are very hardy. The rears on the 535 lasted 33k miles and the fronts 55k but that did spend pretty much all its time on the motorway. I'm excluding winter tyre mileage in both.
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Post by garry on Mar 15, 2021 14:46:58 GMT
I’d associate long lasting, hard wearing tyres with zero grip. That doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Decades ago I had a mk1 mx5 that was an absolute hoot when the tyres were getting close to the legal limit.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 15, 2021 15:01:50 GMT
I suppose, thinking off the top of my head here; the bigger the wheels, the larger the circumference, the less revolutions per km, therefore the less wear, so the tyres will last longer.
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Post by Stuntman on Mar 17, 2021 19:16:03 GMT
I just think that he's driving like a pussy Seriously - that is very impressive. I really hope my Pirellis don't wear that slowly on the GTS. I want to get some VFM out of them but at the same time I want to bonfire them. The solution is likely to be a few trackdays this summer and then pay for some Michelin PS4S in about October.
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Post by alf on Mar 24, 2021 9:26:11 GMT
I was thinking much the same as Stuntman but my own tyres have been on the car for over 30k miles and the fronts are half worn, the rears are on about 3mm and need immediate replacement.If a third of that time was with the winter tyres, then over 20k miles from a pair of rears - especially as I don't run them down to the legal limit - is good going on a car like mine. And I did an autototest at Goodwood in them when brand new, with quite a bit of smoky sideways:
I do wonder how some people "achieve" the MPG and parts life they do, when I know how hard I drive my car at times. I guess it comes down to a few things, most of my mileage is long trips, and while I do give it the beans sometimes I only do so when I feel like it, the road and traffic situation suits it, and so on. Presumable the knuckle draggers with the tiny tyre life are those tiresome people that just boot it everywhere all the time, even in heavy traffic in a 30 limit, when personally I just try to be smooth...
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 24, 2021 9:47:36 GMT
I just think that he's driving like a pussy Seriously - that is very impressive. I really hope my Pirellis don't wear that slowly on the GTS. I want to get some VFM out of them but at the same time I want to bonfire them. The solution is likely to be a few trackdays this summer and then pay for some Michelin PS4S in about October. its what I did with my first Cayman but still binned the P zeros before their sell by date. Whats a new set of PS4S, £800-£900? You'd probably get £400 for your set if they are as new on Ebay. Not such as massive cost to upgrade if it improves the car.
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Post by Martin on Mar 24, 2021 11:15:59 GMT
I just think that he's driving like a pussy Seriously - that is very impressive. I really hope my Pirellis don't wear that slowly on the GTS. I want to get some VFM out of them but at the same time I want to bonfire them. The solution is likely to be a few trackdays this summer and then pay for some Michelin PS4S in about October. its what I did with my first Cayman but still binned the P zeros before their sell by date. Whats a new set of PS4S, £800-£900? You'd probably get £400 for your set if they are as new on Ebay. Not such as massive cost to upgrade if it improves the car. That’s what I suggested just after it arrived and is what I’d have done if I’d spent that amount of money on a car and wasn’t as happy as I could be with it because of the tyres.
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Tyre wear
Mar 24, 2021 13:07:38 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Mar 24, 2021 13:07:38 GMT
I just think that he's driving like a pussy Seriously - that is very impressive. I really hope my Pirellis don't wear that slowly on the GTS. I want to get some VFM out of them but at the same time I want to bonfire them. The solution is likely to be a few trackdays this summer and then pay for some Michelin PS4S in about October. its what I did with my first Cayman but still binned the P zeros before their sell by date. Whats a new set of PS4S, £800-£900? You'd probably get £400 for your set if they are as new on Ebay. Not such as massive cost to upgrade if it improves the car. Michelin are doing £100 cashback on 4 tyres at the minute too .
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Post by alf on Mar 24, 2021 14:36:30 GMT
I feel duty bound to point it out as they are my ultimate employer, but Bridgestone have (finally) released a new sports tyre and initial results are favourable: www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-UUHP-Summer-Tyre-Test.htmIt's similar to others we have seen recently (such as agaist the new P Zero) where Michelin are still slightly ahead on dry handling but lose out overall as they are quite average in the wet. While the subjective feel can vary, I have known even distinctly mid range tyres be strong in totally dry warm conditions, its the wet and cool conditions we get so much of in the UK where you see bigger differences... What interested me about this test was that they were 265 tyres on a heavy RWD car (Mustang), different sizes of tyre often have different tread patterns and I never feel a FWD hatch is especially relevant for me...
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