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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 4, 2021 14:03:12 GMT
Lots around here did, along with a lot of hooting and ringing of what sounded like cowbells. I was out running and initially had no idea what was going on. Yes, everyone around here was out clapping. Nice tribute. |
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Post by Tim on Feb 4, 2021 14:03:58 GMT
That the NHS is a vastly inefficient bureaucracy from a funding point of view is surely indisputable in my view. The issue comes when people use that as an excuse to argue against the very notion of it. Privatising healthcare is not the right solution to that inefficiency in my book. I noticed last year, and an unlucky colleague recently confirmed she had the same experience lately, that counterintuitively I got much, much quicker medical attention via my GP and the NHS than would have been possible via my private healthcare provider. So private is not necessarily better. But is necessarily more expensive. You're falling into the trap of thinking privatisation means the US model, it doesn't. My preferred model would be that of pretty much any other developed European country which is an state backed mandatory insurance model remaining free a the point of use and with better health outcomes.
The public perception is the NHS is underfunded. It guzzles a billion every three days.
Isn't that the German model? I'm sure I read that they spend more per head on healthcare than us but don't remember if that was total spend or Government spend |
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Post by michael on Feb 4, 2021 14:05:48 GMT
Most countries in the developed world have a similar insurance based model. The US are outliers at one extreme and we're outliers at the other.
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 4, 2021 16:49:00 GMT
Most countries in the developed world have a similar insurance based model. The US are outliers at one extreme and we're outliers at the other. This. Slovakia, Czech, France, Spain and Germany all like this in my experience. There are varying degrees of state intervention for children, the unemployed etc. (the latter linked to benefit reduction in some countries). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 17:21:37 GMT
Lots around here did, along with a lot of hooting and ringing of what sounded like cowbells. I was out running and initially had no idea what was going on. Yes, everyone around here was out clapping. Nice tribute. Around here too. It was nice during LD1 to be up on the headland at night and hear the noise radiating up from the City. |
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 4, 2021 20:46:06 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Feb 4, 2021 22:22:22 GMT
I was more surprised to hear (in the background as I wasn't watching) that in a Piers Morgan (spit) interview it transpired that he was married for 20 years to his first wife in an unconsummated marriage. What the actual fuck? (or not as the case was). R.I.P. anyway. He actually had a pretty interesting life before this past year, including an appearance on Blankety Blank in the early '80s. A friend of mine expressed his military opinion on that which I won't repeat here. It doesn't matter these days, but would have then. |
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Post by Big Blue on Feb 5, 2021 12:36:56 GMT
Re: median healthcare spending per head.
I note that Norway is near the top. Horrendously expensive cost of living means that they may have less healthcare spending in real terms. At the opposite end of the spectrum the low cost of living in Turkey, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary mean that the standard of healthcare might be far higher as the cost of running hospitals, staff, doctors etc is far lower - I know the SiL and BiL in CZ and our dentist in SK are all paid far less than their UK counterparts but still have a higher standard of living than the local populace. I also can confirm that their facilities are skies above what I've experienced in the UK.
Despite that assertion at the bottom about purchasing power parity I think this measuring method is utter bollocks.
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 5, 2021 18:47:27 GMT
I see that the BBC is reporting that Sir Tom's daughters are planning a small, low-key funeral.
Errr, isn't that enforced, because of lockdown, rather than through choice?
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