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Post by LandieMark on Jan 21, 2021 22:20:35 GMT
Sensible advice. A TVR nearly ruined me. As much as I would have loved and could have afforded a 355, I'm glad I didn't.
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Post by franki68 on Jan 22, 2021 8:49:36 GMT
I looked at a California years ago ,didn’t drive one though .
Overall the press didn’t like it ,from what I saw you really don’t want the earlier ones ,the ‘30’ onwards are the ones to go for .
Nowhere near as good dynamically as the other cars you list ,but has a sense of occasion the others don’t have .
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Post by garry on Jan 23, 2021 13:02:00 GMT
I looked at a California years ago ,didn’t drive one though . Overall the press didn’t like it ,from what I saw you really don’t want the earlier ones ,the ‘30’ onwards are the ones to go for . Nowhere near as good dynamically as the other cars you list ,but has a sense of occasion the others don’t have . The California T got a very different response from the press compared to the earlier car. That’s where I’m aiming. It is the sense of occasion that’s driving my interest. And a sense that if I don’t do it now I might be too old for it. My concern is that I’d end up with something I’d never dare drive anywhere. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 23, 2021 18:45:08 GMT
How about a current R8? You’d get that sense of occasion, from the engine anyway and even the latest and nearly new Performance is ‘only’ £100k.
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Post by Alex on Jan 23, 2021 21:48:29 GMT
The rwd version seems to be getting good reviews too as it doesn't come with the performance exhaust and carbon ceramic brakes so is possibly much more road orientated. The downside is, however, that it's an Audi and no matter how good an Audi it is it will never be a Ferrari.
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Post by Martin on Jan 23, 2021 22:19:32 GMT
The rwd version seems to be getting good reviews too as it doesn't come with the performance exhaust and carbon ceramic brakes so is possibly much more road orientated. The downside is, however, that it's an Audi and no matter how good an Audi it is it will never be a Ferrari. True, but a NA V10 sounds way better than a turbo V8. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 24, 2021 1:31:34 GMT
There are cars out there which are 'better' than the California, but they don't wear a Ferrari badge. I think this is more about the once in a lifetime opportunity to own a Ferrari than it is about being too sensible and so it needs to be done.
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Post by franki68 on Jan 24, 2021 8:42:20 GMT
I looked at a California years ago ,didn’t drive one though . Overall the press didn’t like it ,from what I saw you really don’t want the earlier ones ,the ‘30’ onwards are the ones to go for . Nowhere near as good dynamically as the other cars you list ,but has a sense of occasion the others don’t have . The California T got a very different response from the press compared to the earlier car. That’s where I’m aiming. It is the sense of occasion that’s driving my interest. And a sense that if I don’t do it now I might be too old for it. My concern is that I’d end up with something I’d never dare drive anywhere. Go for it ,you are a long time dead . |
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 24, 2021 20:50:42 GMT
About the only thing that springs to my mind regarding the California is......  ..... that one of the first ones spotted in the UK bore the plate that's now on my Kuga |
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Post by garry on Jan 24, 2021 20:58:07 GMT
The California T got a very different response from the press compared to the earlier car. That’s where I’m aiming. It is the sense of occasion that’s driving my interest. And a sense that if I don’t do it now I might be too old for it. My concern is that I’d end up with something I’d never dare drive anywhere. Go for it ,you are a long time dead . Yep. Over the last three years I’ve gone through a horrific divorce, family bereavements and I’ve navigated my business through the choppy waters of covid (this time last year we had circa 25 people delivering training and consultancy in far flung corners of the world, last March we saw a pipeline of £3.5M drop to £500k in three weeks. We sweated blood to redefine our offers and today we have 28 people doing the same job from home and we put 4% on our YoY revenue). To say I feel like I ‘deserve’ it is ridiculous, but I have got an increasing feeling of ‘f* it, do it whilst you can’ |
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Post by michael on Jan 24, 2021 21:18:39 GMT
Yep. Over the last three years I’ve gone through a horrific divorce, family bereavements and I’ve navigated my business through the choppy waters of covid (this time last year we had circa 25 people delivering training and consultancy in far flung corners of the world, last March we saw a pipeline of £3.5M drop to £500k in three weeks. We sweated blood to redefine our offers and today we have 28 people doing the same job from home and we put 4% on our YoY revenue). To say I feel like I ‘deserve’ it is ridiculous, but I have got an increasing feeling of ‘f* it, do it whilst you can’ Good work! Cars like Ferrari's exist to give people with ambition something to aim for so I'm glad you've got there. It's also why I hate socialism. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 24, 2021 21:53:40 GMT
Agreed.
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 24, 2021 23:54:15 GMT
Cars like Ferrari's exist to give people with ambition something to aim for so I'm glad you've got there. It's also why I hate socialism. Can we keep this exchange handy to remind us all that differences of opinion elsewhere do not lead to permanent animosities? |
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Post by Martin on Jan 25, 2021 7:49:16 GMT
Go for it ,you are a long time dead . Yep. Over the last three years I’ve gone through a horrific divorce, family bereavements and I’ve navigated my business through the choppy waters of covid (this time last year we had circa 25 people delivering training and consultancy in far flung corners of the world, last March we saw a pipeline of £3.5M drop to £500k in three weeks. We sweated blood to redefine our offers and today we have 28 people doing the same job from home and we put 4% on our YoY revenue). To say I feel like I ‘deserve’ it is ridiculous, but I have got an increasing feeling of ‘f* it, do it whilst you can’ Great stuff! You really should do it while you can. |
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 25, 2021 9:09:35 GMT
Just do it. No point being the richest corpse in the graveyard.
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Post by Martin on Jan 25, 2021 9:19:06 GMT
Just do it. No point being the richest corpse in the graveyard. Good advice Jeff.....we’re still waiting for you to buy your 40th Ferrari and (50th?) M3!  |
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 25, 2021 12:06:10 GMT
Just do it. No point being the richest corpse in the graveyard. Agreed, life is to short. Do it whilst you can |
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 25, 2021 12:06:47 GMT
Just do it. No point being the richest corpse in the graveyard. Good advice Jeff.....we’re still waiting for you to buy your 40th Ferrari and (50th?) M3! Yeah but I'm a tight arsed git with 5 kids Fair point though and guilty as charged. Justification is my main excuse for not spending money these days: I've got several thousand pounds worth of guitars I hardly get to touch; an NSR250 that remains unregistered; cover under 5,000 miles per annum across two cars; the Gorilla costs more to keep serviced than it does in petrol (no mean feat at 18mpg average over five years), all my holidays are spent outside the UK (or certainly not at home) and my weekends are full of kids. In seven years time I'll be working less / not caring much if I am and five years after that is it so given that's quite "young" these days I'll not be the richest corpse but I'll make some effort to be the laziest. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2021 14:25:43 GMT
Cars like Ferrari's exist to give people with ambition something to aim for so I'm glad you've got there. It's also why I hate socialism. Can we keep this exchange handy to remind us all that differences of opinion elsewhere do not lead to permanent animosities? Hah! We might exchange robust views on the Tory party and Brexit, but I don't believe either of us sees it as personal animosity! |
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 25, 2021 14:37:29 GMT
Can we keep this exchange handy to remind us all that differences of opinion elsewhere do not lead to permanent animosities? Hah! We might exchange robust views on the Tory party and Brexit, but I don't believe either of us sees it as personal animosity! Having met you both personally I concur that you'd enjoy a social event where both were present - provided certain subjects were sidelined |
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Post by alf on Jan 25, 2021 15:35:13 GMT
I thought people were going to flame you over the California as the press certainly had plenty to say about it (mainly as it wasn't a 458), but my personal view on it has always been that it looks great, its a modern Ferrari and they just don't seem to make bad cars. I've always harbored sort of secret crush feelings towards them. For the reasons stated, if you can, do it - I'm gutted I didn't act when you could get a decent 360 for £25-30k. Even if its ruinous to run, you owned and enjoyed a Ferrari. Worth a go surely? The 156GTA cost me a fortune to make right/run (for the sort of car it was) and I regret not a second of it.
For the money, there are legions of other contenders as I'm sure you are aware. GT3's, Boxster GTS, R8 V10's, V12 Vantages, Early McLarens (which always appeal to me as they seem to have such great ride quality for UK roads).
But they are not Ferraris. Ferraris are different, and one day I hope to run one ruinously myself :-) Go for it - and keep us informed!!!
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Post by michael on Jan 25, 2021 15:44:21 GMT
Hah! We might exchange robust views on the Tory party and Brexit, but I don't believe either of us sees it as personal animosity! Having met you both personally I concur that you'd enjoy a social event where both were present - provided certain subjects were sidelined Having met you both I can personally say I prefer the company of Jonny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 17:01:59 GMT
Sorry, rubber necking moment there.
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 25, 2021 18:25:30 GMT
Having met you both personally I concur that you'd enjoy a social event where both were present - provided certain subjects were sidelined Having met you both I can personally say I prefer the company of Jonny.
I never said I’d want to be at a social event that invited you. |
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 25, 2021 18:56:05 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2021 21:44:55 GMT
Having met you both personally I concur that you'd enjoy a social event where both were present - provided certain subjects were sidelined Having met you both I can personally say I prefer the company of Jonny.
Ooh, I seem to have come over all unnecessary...! I'll have to retire with my smelling salts and some vigorous fanning... |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 25, 2021 21:46:12 GMT
Back on topic, I can completely see the appeal of a California T and I assure you it has nothing to do with the smelling salts!
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