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Post by Tim on Dec 2, 2020 9:46:57 GMT
Mmmmm Baby I spend half my time in meetings at the moment - on Zoom and Teams, naturally - and it's a constant source of interest to see what other people wear. These are all meetings that we'd just naturally wearing a suit at if in the office but, for example, today our Sales Manager (or BDM to give him his proper title) was at the management catchup looking like he was wearing a Dennis The Menace outfit. I was in one meeting yesterday with some finance bods from That There London and they were wearing t-shirts. I usually at least wear a shirt and jersey (plus jeans but they can't see that) if I'm in what I deem to be in anything remotely like an important meeting. So what are the rest of you doing?
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 2, 2020 9:51:41 GMT
I tend to wear outdoorsy stuff as I walk the dogs in the morning.
Currently in t-shirt and some Seeland field trousers which are lined and warm.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 2, 2020 9:52:57 GMT
Went to the gym this morning so after showering got comfy: Adidas sweat pants, a Duran Duran t-shirt (just rebooked for Hyde Park next year) and an Adidas hoodie. Björn Borg under pants, Duchamp socks and a Hanes t-vest for completeness. I wore a suit a couple of weeks ago to do an online supplier conference. Still had sweatpants below the camera line.
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 2, 2020 9:55:13 GMT
I'm in a t-shirt and hoodie but only have teams calls with colleagues or suppliers.
I laugh at my neighbour over the road as hes always in a well ironed white shirt but in shorts underneath. I just can't be bothered with the BS. However if I was to call customers through video though, yes I'd make sure I was a little better presented.
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Post by johnc on Dec 2, 2020 9:58:51 GMT
I haven't worn a suit since March. I am in the office everyday in smart casual. I have a meeting on Tuesday with a new and large client and I think I will need to put a suit and tie on for that.
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Post by Martin on Dec 2, 2020 10:13:59 GMT
When I'm working from home I wear a branded Polo shirt which has been with shorts up until recently but now it's either jeans or joggers. I haven't owned joggers/sweatpants/tracksuit bottoms for well over 20 years and wouldn't wear them outside (I wear shorts when I go out on my bike), but they are comfortable when you're stuck at the desk working at home.
When I'm visiting my sites or even meeting with the customer, it's smart trousers and the branded Polo shirt but if I'm meeting someone new then I do put a suit on, but I've not had to do that in 2020.
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Post by PG on Dec 2, 2020 10:33:41 GMT
Whilst working for the yanks had disadvantages there were some advantages. One was that suits were not required in the office, nor even shirts and ties. So shirts / polo shirts (sometimes with company logo) and non-jean trousers were the norm. But the corollary of that was that the line was also expected to be followed for online meetings or those who worked from home. Turning up in a t-shirt to an online meeting with the CEO would result in a bollocking.
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 2, 2020 10:53:10 GMT
I still dress as if I were going into work - shirt and work trousers, changing back into home leisure wear after I have finished and shut the computer down in the evening. If I don't dress for work, I just do not feel that I am in a "work frame of mind".
On Teams meetings etc, I appear to be in a significant minority with most of my colleagues wearing tee shirts, gym wear or whatever. I've not had any video calls with suppliers so no idea what they are wearing, although most dealings I have with suppliers, my contacts are back at work and not "WFH" so I presume that they are dressing appropriately
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Post by Blarno on Dec 2, 2020 10:54:42 GMT
At work - Work shorts, work t shirt and jumper.
At home - shorts, t shirt and hoody.
Out - Shorts or jeans if it's really cold, t shirt and hoody.
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Post by Eff One on Dec 2, 2020 11:07:21 GMT
When I was in the office, I usually wore trousers and a shirt but dressed down in jeans or chinos and a t-shirt occasionally. The dress code was very relaxed, only senior management habitually wore suits. I don't like dressing formally and wouldn't work anywhere that mandated it.
I've never seen anyone dressed 'for the office' on a Zoom meeting. Everyone, from colleagues in my team to senior management, was dressed casually by their standards. I never saw anyone in a dressing gown though was tempted myself.
Of course, those were the halcyon days when I had Zoom meetings to attend - now entering my sixth month of unemployment.
Still dressed the same, though - jeans, t-shirt, Mountain Warehouse fleece. Only the best.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 2, 2020 11:33:08 GMT
T-shirt and shorts - this is what I wear all year round at home and it's now my work uniform.
I don't even wear decent T-shirts, they have been relegated to Sunday best.
I don't enable my camera on any calls, they just soak up interwebs.
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Post by michael on Dec 2, 2020 11:41:34 GMT
Jeans and T shirt today.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 2, 2020 11:46:36 GMT
I haven't worn a suit since March. Neither have I. I personally really don't like "athleisure wear" as a look and would never leave the house in tracksuit bottoms and/or hoodie unless actually participating in a sporting activity or on my way to or from the gym. In fact I don't wear tracksuit bottoms in the house either. I just wear normal trousers (jeans/chinos/cords/moleskins depending on temperature) and usually a t-shirt or casual shirt with a sweater or roll-neck if it's colder. If I have a client video call, I'll usually put a smarter collared shirt on but quite often I do that and find they are in t-shirts or hoodies. Then I try to remember to wear my one grey hoodie next time we speak! Currently as it's rather cold and my desk is by a single-glazed window, I am wearing dark grey/brown needle cords, a dark blue t-shirt and a navy blue cashmere roll-neck...and slippers since I am upstairs on the carpeted top floor on the house from which my wife has banned shoes. If I put my wire-framed Lindberg glasses on, I suspect some clients might think they have mis-dialled their architect...
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 2, 2020 12:06:10 GMT
Whilst working for the yanks had disadvantages there were some advantages. One was that suits were not required in the office, nor even shirts and ties. So shirts / polo shirts (sometimes with company logo) and non-jean trousers were the norm. But the corollary of that was that the line was also expected to be followed for online meetings or those who worked from home. Turning up in a t-shirt to an online meeting with the CEO would result in a bollocking. I worked for EDS for 6 months way back when. They were “suit, tie and white shirt”. No other shirt colour was acceptable - like the Simpsons episode where Homer’s shirt gets washed with red and turns pink. Straight after that contract I remember going to a meeting in Hamburg in the ‘90s fully suited and booted and the other team were all black T-shirt’s and skinny jeans. My step-brother at Adidas HQ says you can wear what you like so long as it’s Adidas (and socially acceptable so no mankinis). Consultants stand out like spare pricks at a wedding on day one when they arrive in shirts, suits, formal shoes etc.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 2, 2020 12:51:38 GMT
Whilst working for the yanks had disadvantages there were some advantages. One was that suits were not required in the office, nor even shirts and ties. So shirts / polo shirts (sometimes with company logo) and non-jean trousers were the norm. But the corollary of that was that the line was also expected to be followed for online meetings or those who worked from home. Turning up in a t-shirt to an online meeting with the CEO would result in a bollocking. I worked for EDS for 6 months way back when. They were “suit, tie and white shirt”. No other shirt colour was acceptable. By rule or convention? I confess that in the office with a suit and tie I mostly wear plain white shirts, with just the occasional plain light blue or light pink one. It just saves me having to worry about whether my tie clashes with my shirt. That might sound a minor concern but when I was a very junior lawyer I shared an office with a much more senior female lawyer. She was a very upper-caste Indian and very direct, and never shied away from a critical appearance-based comment. For example, I might arrive in the office in the morning and say " Good morning" and her reply, without any niceties, would be " Oh my God, did you, like, dress in the dark?" by which she meant that my suit/tie/shirt combination wasn't sufficiently stylish or well-coordinated. She'd say stuff like " individually that's a nice suit, a nice tie and a nice shirt, but the combination is horrible". I think I've been scarred for life by that!
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Post by johnc on Dec 2, 2020 13:27:05 GMT
I worked for EDS for 6 months way back when. They were “suit, tie and white shirt”. No other shirt colour was acceptable. By rule or convention? I confess that in the office with a suit and tie I mostly wear plain white shirts, with just the occasional plain light blue or light pink one. It just saves me having to worry about whether my tie clashes with my shirt. That might sound a minor concern but when I was a very junior lawyer I shared an office with a much more senior female lawyer. She was a very upper-caste Indian and very direct, and never shied away from a critical appearance-based comment. For example, I might arrive in the office in the morning and say " Good morning" and her reply, without any niceties, would be " Oh my God, did you, like, dress in the dark?" by which she meant that my suit/tie/shirt combination wasn't sufficiently stylish or well-coordinated. She'd say stuff like " individually that's a nice suit, a nice tie and a nice shirt, but the combination is horrible". I think I've been scarred for life by that! Just think of the carnage you could cause if you complained about behaviour like that these days. I had a boss who poked fun at me in the middle of the office about the colour of my belt - so much so that I went out at lunchtime and bought another. It's changed days now though.
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Post by Tim on Dec 2, 2020 13:31:51 GMT
Today's attire is dark blue t-shirt, burgundy hoodie and I started off in jogging bottoms but having decided to nip into the local town before lunch I put jeans on instead, failing to notice the muddy stain in the knee until I was putting my shoes on. Never mind.
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 2, 2020 13:55:21 GMT
I am another who does not do "athleisure wear" and would only wear a tracksuit or similar on a sports field or in a gym.
My usual attire is shirt and trousers, with a jumper if it is cold. This could vary from a Paul Smith floral shirt and jeans to a Tattersall check shirt and moleskins on normal days, with a more formal double cuff shirt if I have a formal Zoom meeting with someone outside the organisation. Understandably, a formal suit and tie will be required when we resume our meetings and events at the House of Lords.
I have not routinely worn a tie to work for years.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 2, 2020 14:19:11 GMT
I never thought my “Frankie Says Relax” t-shirt would get so many outings. I’ve also bought my first hoodie and love it.
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Post by alf on Dec 2, 2020 17:03:40 GMT
I just wear a T shirt and (reasonably smart, usually cashmere at this time of year) jumper for the vast majority of the time. Most of my video calls are internal, some are with SME resellers that I've known for a decade. One moans that we (as his most important supplier) don't wear shirts for calls with him - he also calls me to moan the moment his account manager is not immediately available. TBH I think if I cured cancer, and gave him a mass of gold bullion for nothing, he'd still moan.
For the odd client video call I put on a shirt, but then if its baltic and I stick a jumper on top, it looks barely different - I did don a jacket for one important call recently when I was video presenting to 100 or so resellers but the effect was rather undone by my Bose bluetooth headphones stopping working immediately my bit started, for the first and last time ever - with my boss and bosses boss on the call!!!
Even before lockdown, in the tech/mobile industries, suits and ties were overkill - in Telematics we spend half our time meeting SME business owners with fleets - medium sized truck operators and so on - they don't wear suits, or show many signs of liking people that do....
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Post by PG on Dec 2, 2020 18:50:18 GMT
I worked for EDS for 6 months way back when. They were “suit, tie and white shirt”. No other shirt colour was acceptable - I'd have got fired then. The only white shirt I own is a dinner shirt. After wearing a white shirt for school every day I loathe them and refuse to wear one. I have avery pale plain blue one that can do for funerals if required.
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Post by PG on Dec 2, 2020 18:52:55 GMT
That might sound a minor concern but when I was a very junior lawyer I shared an office with a much more senior female lawyer. She was a very upper-caste Indian and very direct, and never shied away from a critical appearance-based comment. For example, I might arrive in the office in the morning and say " Good morning" and her reply, without any niceties, would be " Oh my God, did you, like, dress in the dark?" by which she meant that my suit/tie/shirt combination wasn't sufficiently stylish or well-coordinated. She'd say stuff like " individually that's a nice suit, a nice tie and a nice shirt, but the combination is horrible". I think I've been scarred for life by that! She sounds unbearable. I think I'd have made some very sarcastic reply back to that sort of comment, or made some risque remark about untouchables.
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Post by scouse on Dec 3, 2020 11:18:26 GMT
Dark blue jeans, tshirt/polo shirt & hoodie/jumper. Clients are only allowed in the office by prior appointment and 99% don't want to come in so I don't bother with anything else. If I have a valuation I'll revert to my normal office attire of black trousers, white shirt & jumper. I'm another who won't wear sports gear/loungewear for anything other than sport or lounging around the house (with the exception of once a month whe I go for my cancer jab 'cos the injection site is high up on the arse and is fucking painfull when you sit down and the wasteband of trousers/jeans rubs on it, in whoich case I'll wear tracksuit bottoms & a tshirt). I'll even go & get changed just to nip out for a pint of milk.
Astonishing for scouser I know...
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 3, 2020 13:56:57 GMT
I'm convinced 50% of the obesity problem in this country is because of the prevalence and popularity of elasticated waistbands..
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 3, 2020 16:08:41 GMT
I'm convinced 50% of the obesity problem in this country is because of the prevalence and popularity of elasticated waistbands..
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 3, 2020 16:14:04 GMT
In normal non-Covid times, does anyone here habitually get changed into "comfortable clothes" when they get home after work?
My wife is a stickler for doing so, and when we first met was quite horrified that I didn't get changed out of my suit (or whatever else I'd been wearing) when I got home and into comfier wear. Partly for comfort and partly for hygiene - she'll be like "but you sat on the seat on the tube wearing those clothes"...
I still don't habitually do it. Whatever I put on in the morning stays on until I either go to bed or need to change it for other reasons. Obviously if I've been wearing a suit, I'll take the jacket and tie off, but would happily flop on the sofa for the evening in my suit trousers and dress shirt were it not for my wife's insistence that I get changed.
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Post by Blarno on Dec 3, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
Yes. I spend all day in my work clobber (Site shorts, t shirt and zip top), so I like to get home and throw a pair of Puma shorts, Purple Rain hoodie and my Avengers slippers.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 3, 2020 16:23:51 GMT
I cant relax in a suit - I detest wearing them so it would be coming off the moment I got home. I'm generally in casual outdoorsy gear as mentioned above and will happily wear that in an evening.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 3, 2020 16:32:42 GMT
If I couldn't relax in a suit, I'd have died of stress years ago. To me they are all just clothes and I bother spending money on decent suits so that they are both well-cut and comfortable to wear.
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Post by Eff One on Dec 3, 2020 16:35:30 GMT
In normal non-Covid times, does anyone here habitually get changed into "comfortable clothes" when they get home after work? Oh yes. My usual smart trousers and shirt would be ditched the minute I walked through the door. I might stay in my work clothes on dress down days, but in summer the jeans or chinos would swiftly be swapped for shorts. I only ever wear shirts for 'occasions' (work, eating out etc) so am not especially comfortable in them.
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