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Post by chipbutty on Dec 13, 2021 21:25:17 GMT
Still no sale for me, I never use the keyless function on the RRSs, just the key fob.
Old habits die hard
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 13, 2021 21:38:03 GMT
Hmmm. Proximity locking.
I arrive at country club (to use the gym) I exit the car, closing the door. I open the boot to remove the charging cable. I close the boot. I open the charging flap. I connect the cable to the car. I connect the cable to the charger. I return to car to get sports bag. Car is fucking locked.
It seems walking to the nose of the car is the same as walking away even though I’m never more than 15-20cm from the bodywork.
This all happens at 0620 so I’m less than patient. ChipB is probably correct in ignoring the option.
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 13, 2021 21:57:59 GMT
Hmmm. Proximity locking. I arrive at country club (to use the gym) I exit the car, closing the door. I open the boot to remove the charging cable. I close the boot. I open the charging flap. I connect the cable to the car. I connect the cable to the charger. I return to car to get sports bag. Car is fucking locked. It seems walking to the nose of the car is the same as walking away even though I’m never more than 15-20cm from the bodywork. This all happens at 0620 so I’m less than patient. ChipB is probably correct in ignoring the option. The Captur is keyless but you have to press a black blob on a front door handle to open it; it self-locks when you walk away. But same issue: unlock car, open bonnet to check oil etc, close door , walk to front of car, car self-locks, alarm sounds when you open the bonnet. Drives me mad, have to remember NOT to properly close a front door to stop this from happening, yet you can open the boot following same system without the car self-locking or alarm sounding. The proximity sensors must have a far worse performance level for the front of the car compared to the rear.
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Post by Martin on Dec 14, 2021 7:27:04 GMT
Hmmm. Proximity locking. I arrive at country club (to use the gym) I exit the car, closing the door. I open the boot to remove the charging cable. I close the boot. I open the charging flap. I connect the cable to the car. I connect the cable to the charger. I return to car to get sports bag. Car is fucking locked. It seems walking to the nose of the car is the same as walking away even though I’m never more than 15-20cm from the bodywork. This all happens at 0620 so I’m less than patient. ChipB is probably correct in ignoring the option. The issue is messing around plugging the car in, not with the keyless system, wouldn’t have that problem on a new B5! When the car has locked itself, just touching the handle to open the door to get your bag will unlock it? You can turn off the auto lock/unlock if it’s an issue and still keep the keyless entry/exit function.
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Post by Martin on Dec 14, 2021 7:32:35 GMT
Still no sale for me, I never use the keyless function on the RRSs, just the key fob. Old habits die hard I use it nearly all the time, including the hands free boot opening / closing which is extra useful with a toddler. First had keyless on the ex Mrs Martins 2003 Megane, so old habits do die hard and using a key feels like a backward step.
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Post by johnc on Dec 14, 2021 8:58:35 GMT
I am a total keyless entry convert too. It just makes life much easier.
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 14, 2021 9:07:16 GMT
Another keyless fan here as well. The Mini has the little button on the door handle, while I only have to touch the handle on the Benz. I do have to hide the key away when cleaning the car, or I get constant locking and unlocking and random boot openings.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 14, 2021 9:46:42 GMT
Yes: it just opens when I pull the handle but the whole mirrors in / mirrors out routine seems unnecessary.
I also have to hide the key during washing. Actually talking if washing, one thing I bought from the BMW shop was rubber mats for winter. I can’t recommend them highly enough if you have muddy passengers! The summer ones are safely wrapped up in the attic.
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Post by Martin on Dec 14, 2021 10:33:17 GMT
Yes: it just opens when I pull the handle but the whole mirrors in / mirrors out routine seems unnecessary. I also have to hide the key during washing. Actually talking if washing, one thing I bought from the BMW shop was rubber mats for winter. I can’t recommend them highly enough if you have muddy passengers! The summer ones are safely wrapped up in the attic. You can deflect the auto mirror fold/unfold if you want, but it's an easy way of checking that the car is locked so I've got it enabled on both cars. I admire your love for the car, but I don't allow muddy passengers to get in! That's not quite right, if boots are going to get muddy then I make sure there's a change of footwear in the boot rather than make them walk home.... I bought new carpet mats for the Golf and the plan was to use the original ones in winter, I haven't swapped them yet but might do when the weather gets worse. I've never had rubber mats.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 14, 2021 11:31:45 GMT
I admire your love for the car, but I don't allow muddy passengers to get in! That's not quite right, if boots are going to get muddy then I make sure there's a change of footwear in the boot rather than make them walk home.... I bought new carpet mats for the Golf and the plan was to use the original ones in winter, I haven't swapped them yet but might do when the weather gets worse. I've never had rubber mats. My step dad had them in one of the W124s and I thought that even though they were classed as an upgrade they looked shit. Time and design moves on and the BMW ones actually look nicer (when clean) than the velour ones, assuming both are black. That said there's another M-sport floor mat upgrade I have my eye on for summer as well..... Agreed on the "other shoes in the boot" approach when filled with clay-laden mud that abounds round here.
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Post by Martin on Dec 14, 2021 11:39:24 GMT
I admire your love for the car, but I don't allow muddy passengers to get in! That's not quite right, if boots are going to get muddy then I make sure there's a change of footwear in the boot rather than make them walk home.... I bought new carpet mats for the Golf and the plan was to use the original ones in winter, I haven't swapped them yet but might do when the weather gets worse. I've never had rubber mats. My step dad had them in one of the W124s and I thought that even though they were classed as an upgrade they looked shit. Time and design moves on and the BMW ones actually look nicer (when clean) than the velour ones, assuming both are black. That said there's another M-sport floor mat upgrade I have my eye on for summer as well..... Agreed on the "other shoes in the boot" approach when filled with clay-laden mud that abounds round here. As long as they aren't the M Performance ones.
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Post by PG on Dec 14, 2021 20:47:09 GMT
.... was rubber mats for winter. I can’t recommend them highly enough if you have muddy passengers! ... I admire your love for the car, but I don't allow muddy passengers to get in!Man up, you've got a Range Rover. They are as at home being driven in muddy boots and various muddy country attire with your mud spattered dog(s) in the boot, as in a fine pair of brogues and sharp Saville row suit. The solution is not to get your suit muddy, but to get proper Range Rover tailored seat covers and rubber mats and a load liner for weekend use and remove all that for the business day. That's what I used to do. Although I once forgot and picked up my CEO at the airport in full on "muddy spec" and he made some sarcy comment. I had washed the mud off the seat cover so he was safe.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 14, 2021 21:05:26 GMT
^^^ That's pretty much what I do with the pickup. All the muddy and poo covered shit goes in the bed and I really couldn't care less how dirty that gets. Not too bothered about the trays or the seat covers. They get removed if they get too dirty.
I didn't used to remove my leggings or wellies in the Land Rover. It reeked of cows after the winter. 🤣
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 14, 2021 21:13:23 GMT
..... poo covered shit ... The mind boggles......
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 14, 2021 21:21:16 GMT
Believe me, everything below the waist is covered before I hose myself off.
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Post by Martin on Dec 14, 2021 21:27:56 GMT
I admire your love for the car, but I don't allow muddy passengers to get in!Man up, you've got a Range Rover. They are as at home being driven in muddy boots and various muddy country attire with your mud spattered dog(s) in the boot, as in a fine pair of brogues and sharp Saville row suit. The solution is not to get your suit muddy, but to get proper Range Rover tailored seat covers and rubber mats and a load liner for weekend use and remove all that for the business day. That's what I used to do. Although I once forgot and picked up my CEO at the airport in full on "muddy spec" and he made some sarcy comment. I had washed the mud off the seat cover so he was safe. Man up? It was bought for and is used as a nice family truck, not a farm vehicle. I let the outside get dirty……
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 18, 2021 8:34:11 GMT
Looks fantastic. I had the pleasure of an hour in a P450 2WD back in the early autumn after a visit from a friend who is a JLR employee. It was an absolute pleasure to drive. I was using the paddle shifts fir most of that time, too, for that extra bit of interaction. It seems to do the split personality thing very well - refined cruiser when you want it and fire breathing, snorting, snarling animal on demand. Lovely handling and yet incredible ride quality. And proper quick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 14:13:02 GMT
It looks fantastic.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 20, 2021 15:56:05 GMT
I’ve not driven a 2wd P450 – in the dry it’s a teeny bit quicker than the 4wd variant, but I bet it keeps you on your toes when it’s damp and greasy.
I did a 500 mile round trip to the North East over the weekend which gave an interesting perspective as I’d come back from the Lakes 3 days earlier in the sports tank. On reflection, it’s the F-Type that I would always want to take on a long trip (passengers and luggage permitting) as the motorway ride, the steering feeling and general responsiveness is much more to my liking. Road roar from the tyres is only annoying on rougher, older sections – but on new tarmac (big sections of the M1 and new A1M) it’s perfectly acceptable.
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Post by garry on Dec 20, 2021 16:25:35 GMT
My only experience of the F type was an early V8 S rwd. Took it on a circa 20 mile test drive over some damp country roads. You could make it step out at will (or not at will if you weren't being careful). Required concentration, but lots of fun.
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