|
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 5, 2020 11:31:48 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53648638I'm not sure who is worse; those that approved the ad or those who look at it and decide they see a sexually provocative child eating a banana. The former need a wake up call for their naivety and the latter probably need some therapy.
|
|
|
Post by PetrolEd on Aug 5, 2020 11:52:41 GMT
Given how much crap you have to produce to stick on social media it’s no wonder this one slipped through the net.
Totally agree that whoever has looked at the image and seen anything sexually gratifying in it needs to have a serious look at themselves rather then moaning at Audi. I find the whole thing rather F’d up to be honest.
|
|
|
Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 12:57:31 GMT
In think Bob's summed that up pretty well. Nobody has exactly covered themselves in glory, have they?
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Aug 5, 2020 13:07:36 GMT
I saw this yesterday and had exactly the same thoughts. Looks like the complainers are trying too hard to establish a point.
|
|
|
Post by Martin on Aug 5, 2020 13:13:07 GMT
I agree with Bob and think it’s absolutely ridiculous.
|
|
|
Post by johnc on Aug 5, 2020 13:26:30 GMT
Anyone who thinks that photograph is in any way sexually provocative really should be getting some help themselves. I don't believe I would ever have chosen such an image for an advert and as has already been said it was perhaps a bit naive but the people who complain about this stuff are the real danger. I heard a woman on TV the other night spouting on about the fact that because there wasn't equality in the boardroom it was clear evidence of sexist behaviour by the middle aged men who occupy most boardroom positions. I can assure her it is not in any of the boardrooms I deal with - they choose the best person for the job regardless but there are less women to choose from for a whole multitude of reasons none of which are related to sexist behaviour. Some people just like a bandwagon to express their unhappiness, justified or not.
|
|
|
Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 13:35:42 GMT
..Some people just like a bandwagon to express their unhappiness, justified or not. I caught the last 10 minutes of a R4 programme yesterday that was talking about racism in the arts. Yes, there may well be some. But according to the three people talking, there was total racism in the arts and that everybody who is white is basically a white supremacist. Luckily the programme ended before my piss was totally boiled.
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Aug 5, 2020 13:46:21 GMT
..Some people just like a bandwagon to express their unhappiness, justified or not. I caught the last 10 minutes of a R4 programme yesterday that was talking about racism in the arts. Yes, there may well be some. But according to the three people talking, there was total racism in the arts and that everybody who is white is basically a white supremacist. Luckily the programme ended before my piss was totally boiled. I read an interesting article about racism from the view of a young black guy and his point was that while some stuff may be funny - he received regular comments about the probable size of his tackle - after a period of time it be comes wearing and is only made due to the colour of his skin. I understand that. Having said that I was sent a clip of a couple of college students and the black girl in it was insistent (to the point of grabbing the guy when he said he was leaving) that the white guy wasn't allowed to have dreadlocks because he was white. Er, does she stop black women who have their hair straightened and tell them off? The 'isms about quantity of people in certain roles needs to be looked at in respect of the number of applicants at all levels.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 13:53:19 GMT
Would've preferred a brunette to be honest.
|
|
|
Post by scouse on Aug 5, 2020 14:34:50 GMT
Anyone who thinks that photograph is in any way sexually provocative really should be getting some help themselves. I don't believe I would ever have chosen such an image for an advert and as has already been said it was perhaps a bit naive but the people who complain about this stuff are the real danger. I heard a woman on TV the other night spouting on about the fact that because there wasn't equality in the boardroom it was clear evidence of sexist behaviour by the middle aged men who occupy most boardroom positions. I can assure her it is not in any of the boardrooms I deal with - they choose the best person for the job regardless but there are less women to choose from for a whole multitude of reasons none of which are related to sexist behaviour. Some people just like a bandwagon to express their unhappiness, justified or not. I think it was Jordan Peterson who pointed out that the fact that there weren't as many women in boardrooms pointed out that women were likely to be more intelligent in many respects as it is a pretty shitty slope to climb with the extra long (oftewn unpaid) hours, extra stress, less holidays, far less family/social time etc etc. Watching him debate any feminist is actually quite amusing - if you haven't watched it, then I suggest you watch the one with on Channel 4 news with Cathy Newman.
|
|
|
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 5, 2020 14:43:56 GMT
Anyone who thinks that photograph is in any way sexually provocative really should be getting some help themselves. I don't believe I would ever have chosen such an image for an advert and as has already been said it was perhaps a bit naive but the people who complain about this stuff are the real danger. I heard a woman on TV the other night spouting on about the fact that because there wasn't equality in the boardroom it was clear evidence of sexist behaviour by the middle aged men who occupy most boardroom positions. I can assure her it is not in any of the boardrooms I deal with - they choose the best person for the job regardless but there are less women to choose from for a whole multitude of reasons none of which are related to sexist behaviour. Some people just like a bandwagon to express their unhappiness, justified or not. I think it was Jordan Peterson who pointed out that the fact that there weren't as many women in boardrooms pointed out that women were likely to be more intelligent in many respects as it is a pretty shitty slope to climb with the extra long (oftewn unpaid) hours, extra stress, less holidays, far less family/social time etc etc. Watching him debate any feminist is actually quite amusing - if you haven't watched it, then I suggest you watch the one with on Channel 4 news with Cathy Newman. Denmark, who are probably about 10 years (minimum) ahead of us in workplace equality have made concerted efforts to get more women into boardrooms and higher positions within companies but have met considerable resistance for precisely the reasons you quoted. If they want more women in boardrooms they've got to change boardrooms fundamentally to make them a more attractive calling for intelligent people.
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Aug 5, 2020 14:48:07 GMT
The new head of the Bank of England is a middle aged white man. He was the only male candidate in the final shortlist of 4 people. 2 out of 3 of the people making the decision were female. Are they sexist?
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Aug 5, 2020 14:50:09 GMT
If they want more women in boardrooms they've got to change boardrooms fundamentally to make them a more attractive calling for intelligent people. Better decor with more floral patterns and colour co-ordination perhaps? I saw a tipper truck driven by a female this morning. The chassis and all signwriting were pink.
|
|
|
Post by scouse on Aug 5, 2020 14:50:33 GMT
I think it was Jordan Peterson who pointed out that the fact that there weren't as many women in boardrooms pointed out that women were likely to be more intelligent in many respects as it is a pretty shitty slope to climb with the extra long (oftewn unpaid) hours, extra stress, less holidays, far less family/social time etc etc. Watching him debate any feminist is actually quite amusing - if you haven't watched it, then I suggest you watch the one with on Channel 4 news with Cathy Newman. Denmark, who are probably about 10 years (minimum) ahead of us in workplace equality have made concerted efforts to get more women into boardrooms and higher positions within companies but have met considerable resistance for precisely the reasons you quoted. If they want more women in boardrooms they've got to change boardrooms fundamentally to make them a more attractive calling for intelligent people. It's not just that. The data from the scandinavian countries apparantly show that even with all the changes that they have brought in and pushed on the population (and kids especially), on the whole men prefer working with things, are competetive/driven and are prepared to skew the work/life balance towards work for the eventual rewards and women prefer working with people and on the whole aren't prepared to make the same sacrifices.
|
|
|
Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 15:26:35 GMT
It seems that the three aspects of the 'isms debate - equality of opportunity; equality of outcome; and discrimination - do not get separate consideration by those with any axe to grind and often get totally overlapped and confused.
|
|