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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 20:50:35 GMT
No prob whatsoever . As soon as I read it I thought ‘martin’ Sav's right up there. Bedroom full of Beemer brochures with stuck together pages, I reckon. |
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Post by johnc on Aug 5, 2020 7:13:08 GMT
First non Ford since about 2009 I think, so odds on it will blow up or give me an STD. I sincerely hope not! We pick up the i-Pace today so a new chapter begins. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 5, 2020 7:42:57 GMT
I thought "The Dark Side" was diesel? Surely electric should be "The Green Side"?
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 5, 2020 8:38:04 GMT
I meant BMW
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Post by Martin on Aug 5, 2020 8:49:39 GMT
That's more like seeing the light.....although not these days as most of the range has been hit way too hard with the ugly stick.
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Post by racingteatray on Aug 5, 2020 11:12:50 GMT
That's more like seeing the light.....although not these days as most of the range has been hit way too hard with the ugly stick. Yes, indeed. I literally think the only cars they still make (and which aren't imminently due for the chop) that I like the look of are the 5-series (although I preferred it pre-LCI), the X3. The rest of varying degrees of fugly, except for the 8-series, which is ok as either a cabrio or Gran Coupe, but not as a coupe (glass-house way too small for body). |
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Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 13:16:40 GMT
The dark makes sense for most of BMW's current range. The darkest, dark available is the best way to not see them. Enjoy the i3. I've often thought that properly executed range extenders should make a lot more sense than PHEV's. |
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 5, 2020 16:46:43 GMT
Added bonus of a 2 cylinder. Now I need to work on 8,10 and 12.
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Post by Martin on Aug 5, 2020 16:56:26 GMT
The dark makes sense for most of BMW's current range. The darkest, dark available is the best way to not see them. Enjoy the i3. I've often thought that properly executed range extenders should make a lot more sense than PHEV's. I think I'd prefer it the other way round, as with a PHEV you can keep going forever with the petrol/diesel engine if you want to without ever plugging it in (not that I would) and will have a reasonable range between fill ups even if you do that. I'm sure that BMW don't recommend you use the petrol engine regularly, just for emergency top ups and it only has a tiny tank anyway. Maybe it would be different if they used the latest tech now and both the electric range and REx part would be better? Not criticising the i3, as I do think it's a good solution for a City Car+, but the latest pure electric cars have a better range and faster charging and I'd only go as far as a PHEV until the charging infrastructure is much better. |
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 5, 2020 17:03:39 GMT
Most trips will be easily contained within the crappy battery range. The Rex bit just takes away any anxiety. I think the trick is to know when to turn it on to maintain battery level.
In theory you could travel any distance as long as you can buy 9 litres of fuel every 50 or 60 miles. The reviews suggest the Rex can’t quite keep up with the depletion at motorway speeds.
This one is £4.5k cheaper than the others we were looking at and we are buying with cash as the BMW rates are thievery. I have a feeling it won’t be a terrible depreciator at our low mileage.
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Post by cbeaks1 on Aug 5, 2020 17:05:28 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Aug 5, 2020 19:05:42 GMT
Looks very smart.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 5, 2020 19:11:02 GMT
I have always liked these. We had one on the shortlist when we got the Mini.
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Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 21:15:05 GMT
I like the interiors, except that the steering wheel always looks like it was put on upside down.
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Post by PG on Aug 5, 2020 21:20:41 GMT
..I've often thought that properly executed range extenders should make a lot more sense than PHEV's. I think I'd prefer it the other way round, as with a PHEV you can keep going forever with the petrol/diesel engine if you want to without ever plugging it in (not that I would) and will have a reasonable range between fill ups even if you do that. I'm sure that BMW don't recommend you use the petrol engine regularly, just for emergency top ups and it only has a tiny tank anyway. Maybe it would be different if they used the latest tech now and both the electric range and REx part would be better? I seem to remember that the small fuel tank was because certain countries don't tax REX's nicely unless the fuel tank is below a certain size. With a bigger REX engine and a decent fuel tank you'd get a real dual purpose vehicle. |
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 6, 2020 7:15:52 GMT
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How much would it cost to offer two different fuel tanks, one for the relevant countries and another larger one for everywhere else? I'll wager not much, based on the overall development costs of the vehicle. A bit like the garish chrome front ends on many, many cars, specifically for the Chinese market. Very little overall cost to develop a second more pleasant front bumper moulding and trim option for other markets, but few seem to do it.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 6, 2020 8:22:06 GMT
^ How much would it cost to offer two different fuel tanks, one for the relevant countries and another larger one for everywhere else? I'll wager not much, based on the overall development costs of the vehicle. A bit like the garish chrome front ends on many, many cars, specifically for the Chinese market. Very little overall cost to develop a second more pleasant front bumper moulding and trim option for other markets, but few seem to do it. It's more to do with space for the larger fuel tank - that and the batteries would be fighting for space in what is a small package. |
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