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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 19:41:26 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 1, 2020 19:41:26 GMT
Interesting to read it will be RWD initially, then Xdrive will be available later in the model cycle. Manual option front the start. But look what grille it is going to have.....  |
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 19:50:42 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 1, 2020 19:50:42 GMT
I do hope not....  |
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Jul 1, 2020 19:59:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 19:59:05 GMT
Looks like the 4 series one from here...
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 20:10:19 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 1, 2020 20:10:19 GMT
Looks like the 4 series one from here... I think you’re right, so there is still hope... |
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Jul 1, 2020 20:12:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 20:12:47 GMT
Hope for what? Surely that's the worst outcome?
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 20:22:54 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 1, 2020 20:22:54 GMT
Hope for what? Surely that's the worst outcome? Hope that they don’t ruin the M3 in the same way they will the M4z |
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 20:27:04 GMT
Post by michael on Jul 1, 2020 20:27:04 GMT
That grille is surely a certainty now even on the M3?
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 20:42:25 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 1, 2020 20:42:25 GMT
Maybe that shot is of the new M3 from the rear, and the new M4 from the front? We can live in hope, can't we ??
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Jul 1, 2020 20:46:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 20:46:34 GMT
True, the right hand car do look very coupe like in shape.
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BMW M3
Jul 1, 2020 20:50:29 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Jul 1, 2020 20:50:29 GMT
^
Certainly does when you brighten the image up
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BMW M3
Jul 2, 2020 10:16:37 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 2, 2020 10:16:37 GMT
The current 3 series isn't blessed with the most attractive grille - although it's not as bad as the new 4's.
However, the current 3 is very colour sensitive and given that most M3s I see are pale and it'll likely have a black grille and surround it wouldn't look great even if they avoid the 4 series comedy schnozz!
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BMW M3
Jul 4, 2020 22:06:11 GMT
Post by Sav on Jul 4, 2020 22:06:11 GMT
The M3 looks good....from the back! Please please, let it have the G20's grille.
I thought that BMW were only bringing Competition M cars to the UK, you can only order the M5 Comp and X5 M Comp. But it appears that the standard M3 will come to the UK with RWD.
The S58 sounds decent, but, do the prototype cars have GPF? Will America get a better sounding M3?
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BMW M3
Jul 7, 2020 12:53:22 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 7, 2020 12:53:22 GMT
The M3 has the mega grille. You can bet money on that.
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BMW M3
Jul 7, 2020 12:57:53 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 7, 2020 12:57:53 GMT
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BMW M3
Jul 8, 2020 15:35:27 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 8, 2020 15:35:27 GMT
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BMW M3
Jul 8, 2020 15:55:43 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 8, 2020 15:55:43 GMT
Is it probably safe to say that the awful grille will be grafted onto the normal 3 series at LCI time?
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BMW M3
Jul 8, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Jul 8, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
If the M3 is the Halo model for the 3 series why would you want to stick the 4 series gille on it, unless as Tim says, its being grafted onto the 3 series at a later date.
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BMW M3
Jul 8, 2020 19:07:22 GMT
Post by PG on Jul 8, 2020 19:07:22 GMT
Sticking that god-awful obscenity of a front end on an M3 makes an Alpina even more desirable than it already was over an M3.
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BMW M3
Jul 8, 2020 19:17:50 GMT
Post by Stuntman on Jul 8, 2020 19:17:50 GMT
That's disappointing. The M3 used to have a nice, elegant grille:  |
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 6:25:46 GMT
Post by johnc on Jul 9, 2020 6:25:46 GMT
There are photos circulating already of the M3 testing at the ring with the full nose on show.
Apparently BMW want to distance the M3 from the standard 3 series which is why it wears the M4 grill.
It is absolutely a step too far for me although it is probably one of those things we will get used to. However whilst it's possible to get used to ugly, it will never make it attractive. I don't see this being a success.
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 8:31:04 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Jul 9, 2020 8:31:04 GMT
If its awesome to drive I could well ignore the nose. However M division can be a little hit and miss so who know what we'll get.
Competition badged cars are also a head scratcher now. They used to add the badge when the original got a bit of a slating so added some tasty bits to the car and hey presto, like the M2 and M3/4 but it now seems a spec rather then mechanical upgrade and launched on day one. Is this the case?
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 8:37:14 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 9, 2020 8:37:14 GMT
If its awesome to drive I could well ignore the nose. However M division can be a little hit and miss so who know what we'll get. Competition badged cars are also a head scratcher now. They used to add the badge when the original got a bit of a slating so added some tasty bits to the car and hey presto, like the M2 and M3/4 but it now seems a spec rather then mechanical upgrade and launched on day one. Is this the case? I don't think I could ignore it, not unless familiarity means it doesn't look quite as bad as it does now. If it's anything like the M8/X5M/M5 facelift, there is a standard model but BMW UK have decided to only bring in the competition version. It's not just a trim level, they do adjust (firm up!) the suspension and give it more power as well as a couple of styling changes so I think it's the same principle as before. |
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Jul 9, 2020 9:00:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 9:00:09 GMT
Hang on, hasn't the saloon had the coupe schnoz since the E9* days?
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 12:29:18 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 9, 2020 12:29:18 GMT
Hang on, hasn't the saloon had the coupe schnoz since the E9* days? Correct. |
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Jul 9, 2020 12:29:39 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 9, 2020 12:29:39 GMT
And yes, it makes for a better distinction with the B3.
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 12:41:50 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Jul 9, 2020 12:41:50 GMT
Hang on, hasn't the saloon had the coupe schnoz since the E9* days? Ah, you see i had forgotten that. Seems I'm gonna be all out of luck thinking the M3 will keep the saloon nose. |
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Jul 9, 2020 12:44:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 12:44:55 GMT
So had I, it was Dan's pic that rang the bell.
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 14:50:46 GMT
Post by Sav on Jul 9, 2020 14:50:46 GMT
The interesting thing about the B3, it uses the M Division's S58. Alpina usually takes one of BMW's regular inline six and tune that. The only thing I would say, the M3 is gonna look pukka from the rear with those wheel arches. It makes the B3 look a bit weedy from the back.
I don't understand it. BMW are going to some lengths to satisfy traditional customers; manual being retained, RWD being retained...yet they seriously think that core customers want a grille like that.
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BMW M3
Jul 9, 2020 14:56:55 GMT
Post by johnc on Jul 9, 2020 14:56:55 GMT
The interesting thing about the B3, it uses the M Division's S58. Alpina usually takes BMW's take BMW's regular inline six and tune that. The only thing I would say, the M3 is gonna look pukka from the rear with those wheel arches. It makes the B3 look a bit weedy from the back. I don't understand it. BMW are going to some lengths to satisfy traditional customers; manual being retained, RWD being retained...yet they seriously think that core customers want a grille like that. There is a certain arrogance in BMW's attitude to its fans because they have been complaining about the ever increasing grill size for 4 or 5 years now and yet with every car they keep getting bigger. |
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Jul 9, 2020 15:02:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 15:02:58 GMT
Folk keep saying that it's because the virus spreaders like a big grille. That market must be huge for them to ignore everyone else in the world ie their original audience who actually made the company the success it is.
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