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Post by michael on Jun 16, 2020 14:31:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 14:49:52 GMT
No thanks, too fussy by half, the design team obviously got paid for additional arcs and lines. Any ten year old could probably do better.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 16, 2020 15:18:14 GMT
What on earth is going on with the back lights?
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Post by Martin on Jun 16, 2020 16:11:47 GMT
It looks like something has crashed into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 18:15:03 GMT
Didn't they already jack it up when they made the DS4?
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Post by Alex on Jun 16, 2020 18:59:41 GMT
What on earth is going on with the back lights? Tbh they're no less fussy than those on the new Juke or Toyota CH-R which it's going up against. Most of the mid market manufacturers are trying to make their rear lights look distinctive. |
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Post by Blarno on Jun 17, 2020 8:49:51 GMT
I feel sorry for any bodyshop who has to repair those panels.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 17, 2020 8:59:54 GMT
Didn't they already jack it up when they made the DS4? My immediate thoughts also. Looks not dissimilar to my mum's DS4. She'll now be bombarded with all manner of promotions to buy one. |
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Post by Tim on Jun 17, 2020 9:02:51 GMT
It's a bit of a dog's breakfast but then what isn't now?
It also looks like it'd be a nightmare to wash.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 17, 2020 9:57:46 GMT
I feel sorry for any bodyshop who has to repair those panels. I don't think they repair them - the front and back are just straight swop for new plastic panels and that really only leaves the doors where they'd stick a new skin on them. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 17, 2020 11:25:53 GMT
I feel sorry for any bodyshop who has to repair those panels. I don't think they repair them - the front and back are just straight swop for new plastic panels and that really only leaves the doors where they'd stick a new skin on them. Quite. This is exactly what the Park Lane service guy pragmatically told me last year when I asked about a repair to the rear bumper of the GC. He said his body shop would simply fit a new bumper assembly, so in his view, in order to avoid an expensive bill or insurance claim, I'd be better off finding a decent local body shop to repair and re-spray the existing bumper. Which is what I did. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 17, 2020 12:37:46 GMT
I don't think they repair them - the front and back are just straight swop for new plastic panels and that really only leaves the doors where they'd stick a new skin on them. Quite. This is exactly what the Park Lane service guy pragmatically told me last year when I asked about a repair to the rear bumper of the GC. He said his body shop would simply fit a new bumper assembly, so in his view, in order to avoid an expensive bill or insurance claim, I'd be better off finding a decent local body shop to repair and re-spray the existing bumper. Which is what I did. It's all driven by the insurance companies and manufacturing engineers. The latter like a nice one piece item they can just thump into place as it travels down the line, and the former prefer replacement of the whole item as it reduces labour costs as it's just a straight swop. They give the car a lower insurance group and the manufacturer is happy. Insurance companies really don't want to pay for a panel beater's time these days. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 17, 2020 13:08:47 GMT
Although I was quoted about £2k by BMW for a new rear bumper, including painting and labour. Whereas my local body shop charged me £300 + VAT, so not sure how the insurance company is on a winner.
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Post by michael on Jun 17, 2020 14:09:53 GMT
The insurance wins as the overall design is cheaper to repair. The 'shaking that ass' Renault Megane was one of the first to design in a larger plastic nose-cone structure which moved the expensive metal area further away from the very front of the car. That car had a shut line quite far up the bonnet and more cars to the same these days, it's one reason why BMW', Audi's and Mercedes no longer incorporate the grille into the bonnet. This area of plastic cushioning is also beneficial for pedestrian impacts as healthcare service across Europe, and to a lesser extent here, can claim for their expense from a motor vehicle insurer and in many cases regardless of fault.
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Post by Blarno on Jun 17, 2020 14:45:22 GMT
I feel sorry for any bodyshop who has to repair those panels. I don't think they repair them - the front and back are just straight swop for new plastic panels and that really only leaves the doors where they'd stick a new skin on them. I'm more concerned with the doors and those ridiculous swage lines. They won't skin a door unless it's totally fucked, minor damage will get bogged and getting that line right with filler will be a nightmare. |
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Post by PG on Jun 18, 2020 9:52:25 GMT
Well it's no more fussy than some of its competitors, so I can't really fault it for that, but the rear look wildly overdone.
However, I can still remain as confused as ever by the Citroen and DS model line up.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 18, 2020 19:37:47 GMT
At least it's more distinctive than the VW ID4.
I agree on the whole Citroen/DS thing. Citroen should just be what they are trying to make DS into and DS should simply be the model designation rather than a separate brand.
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