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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 7:06:55 GMT
Are there things you will be doing differently as a result of your experiences?
I think we'll probably carry on playing more board games, and stream a little more in the way of films. Will have a larger selection of tinned stuff in reserve. Mrs 12th reckons she's doing the household stuff more efficiently and will carry on. I'm hoping to keep using the exercise bike a little after we are back in the pool.
But, I am wondering whether a pool table would fit in the front room. Might have to be a 6ft (rather than 7) to give appropriate clearance. Haven't talked myself into it yet - will have to see what next year's tax bill is before deciding...
And you?
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 8, 2020 7:35:43 GMT
Maybe keep a bit more frozen stuff in stock at home with the help of a stand alone freezer. The panic buying really caught us out as we buy fresh each week.
I'm not buying a freezer yet as they are mostly out of stock and the retailers are price gouging the ones that are in stock.
Probably try and buy more locally from small business for meat and fruit/veg rather than rely soley on supermarkets too.
Maybe try and look after my garden a little better.
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Post by Alex on Apr 8, 2020 8:11:19 GMT
Having more food in reserve may be something we think about later in the year perhaps from the end of September in case this all kicks off again once the world is out of isolation and people start getting on international flights. In some ways it's rather annoying that we've not been overseas but the country has been crippled by a disease bought in by those that did. (Though I equally put a lot of my anger towards the lack of controls and checks that were in place on those coming back from northern Italy when it was clear the pandemic was in full swing over there yet daily flights from the region were coming in from the region with no controls our end).
Personally I will be going to the gym a lot more and getting more exercise as it's been very difficult to gt motivated to do enough at home and I can feel myself getting less fit and more stressed by the day. I will be also working bloody hard to make up the shortfall from a minimum of two months lost work to help ensure the business I work for gets back on its feet.
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Post by Tim on Apr 8, 2020 8:51:27 GMT
On the basis of 3 weeks working from home then I think I'll be encouraging the firm to promote home working more often (although I wouldn't want to do it full time). In addition I might drink more than I was pre-lockdown, I've certainly upped my intake in those 3 weeks.
As others have said there'll be a bit more planning around food - we currently don't have a freezer and it wasn't a problem for the first 8 weeks in the new house but it has been a mild irritant recently.
I've only driven twice in the last 3 weeks and I feel like it's actually helped me rediscover the joy of driving, even in a 2 litre diesel estate.
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Post by Blarno on Apr 8, 2020 9:19:25 GMT
In a nutshell, not really.
I just want to be able to get back out on my bike with my mates. The whole lockdown thing hasn't really changed much in my daily life, aside from the roads being empty and having to queue to get into Morrisons. I don't associate much with the general public anyway, except for when delivering food.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 9:58:24 GMT
I have always had a certain amount of tinned and dried foods, frozen which I get from the short shelf life shelf, keeps for three months and saves money. Buying the larger packets of things saves too as per unit they are quite a bit better priced.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 8, 2020 10:08:32 GMT
I'm tempted to agree with Iain. Although not needing to go to the City every day has immeasurably improved my life - between not spending an hour and a half every day commuting and not sitting all day in an air-conditioned building, I look and feel generally healthier. Which is also down to eating three good quality home-cooked meals a day at normal times, rather than snatched fast food at lunch and overly late dinners.
I do expect WFH to feature more post-crisis for both of us as I have said before - if employers can cut down on expensive offices for office workers, they will.
Curiously for London dwellers, this crisis has reinforced the benefit of having at least one car. Here, getting a supermarket to do home delivery is next to impossible unless you block-booked weeks ago. My wife was on the Waitrose website last night and basically home deliveries were booked out all through May. And most of us don't live close enough to anything bigger than a half-hearted and half-empty Tesco Express to actually be able to the weekly shop by foot. And given you're only supposed to do a weekly shop, having a car to get to and from our local big Sainsbury's is suddenly very handy.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 8, 2020 10:11:27 GMT
I have always had a certain amount of tinned and dried foods, frozen which I get from the short shelf life shelf, keeps for three months and saves money. Buying the larger packets of things saves too as per unit they are quite a bit better priced. My wife is the same. I joke that it has been at least 10 years that she has been preparing for the zombie apocalypse, and as a result we're reasonably well-stocked at all fronts. We also have a kitchen with pretty much every cooking utensil and machine you could possibly want, as she's a keen and excellent cook.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 11:32:33 GMT
I do miss proper cooking, with no oven or hob it can be trying at times but honestly the space is tight and I would rather have the tumble dryer. I can do most things with the slow cooker which forces me to be creative but anything that keeps the gray cells active is good. Microwave is going to have to be replaced soon but that is not a problem and I have a recently acquired worktop grill. Sorted really.
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Post by Big Blue on Apr 8, 2020 11:59:44 GMT
More structured WFH as opposed to just more WFH.
Not sure what I'll do differently as the thing I miss doing the most (gym and Club generally) I will definitely continue to do. I hardly use the cars when not in lockdown so that will just continue; we fly a lot because of family so we won't just stop going to see them. I suppose the one thing I will be definitely doing is planning our retirement in more detail than the current "sell that house; buy one somehere else; keep renting that other one out" with a view to actually doing something that means work can just get stuffed sooner than later. I think W2.1 will be more amenable to it after seeing the differences between the central European approach and the UK one to a massive national health crisis.
The most likely outcome of this for me is more gardening, but that may just be a sign of ageing.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 8, 2020 12:10:55 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 8, 2020 12:19:37 GMT
I'm not sure we'll do anything differently - we won't be stocking up as even at the height of the panic buying there was always stuff in the shops and between that and what we had in the fridge we were always comfortable. We also have Hello Fresh delivered weekly and they never let us down even through the busiest of times.
The road to work is a dream - last night I left Middlesbrough at 5 o'clock and was home for 5.35pm - 85 mph all the way. Normally I wouldn't be in until 6.15. I've also started avoiding the Tyne Tunnel and going through Newcastle to go south so that's saving me £3.40 a day. Getting home earlier means I get to go out and have a really long walk with the dog - he's one now so can take a good yomp across the fields. I've repaired stuff in the house and pressure washed everything outside that would stand still.
I do miss the golf and catching up with my mates but we've started organising Zoom video conferences where we can drop in for a drink and catch up. I always get my round in. Even the shopping we do has been painless - I nip round to Sainsbury's and wait for a few minutes outside before being let in to an almost empty store - it's like doing a trolley dash.
To keep fit I've pumped up the tyres on my bike and rigged up a gym in the back garden using the full Calor gas bottle from the BBQ as a giant kettle bell, and the flat weights from the sun parasol.
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Post by PG on Apr 8, 2020 19:02:38 GMT
As I'm retired now and spend more time on the farm, I guess that workwise not much will change. Although we have done more stuff ourselves that we might have got a contractor in for before, so we will try and carry on with that. I do miss going to the gym, so that will restart.
We're also missing being able to go out for a meal - so that will restart for sure. But also we're cooking more and earlier - less late meals. That's something to try and continue when we do eat at home.
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Post by chipbutty on Apr 9, 2020 10:12:38 GMT
My non work related behaviour won’t change, other than the fact that I will be savouring my freedom when doing the things I currently miss.
WFH for me is something I will still use sparingly, I really don’t like it and it only has a specific purpose (normally when I need to be left alone to read documentation or concentrate on technical stuff). I am now far more appreciative of my lovely work chair and ergonomically sound computer set up.
What will change/is changing is that I am looking to be more self-reliant from now on.
• I’ve always been a saver, but I will look to save more and get the mortgage wrapped up even quicker. • I’m going to run a higher stock level of stuff as I expect that this will not be the first and only lockdown or set of restrictions (during COVID or another virus) • I’m going to further bolster my home gym (quite good now, but not being able to go to the boxing gym and do proper leg training is a fucker).
I’m going to give some serious thought as to what to do with my career. I guess many of us now feel exposed given how quickly and comprehensively things have turned to shit and the furlough process is highlighting across the world that big companies have a series of roles that add little value in the grand scheme. Expect a significant amount of “ restructuring “ and a far more simplistic role evaluation question like “ how does this job protect or improve company profitability “.
On a car related note – I’m going to be keeping an eye out for pande-nomic priced barge awesomeness. I need a proper XJ (X300, X308 or even maybe a nice XJ40).
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 9, 2020 11:06:25 GMT
Ive seen a pretty impressive range of innovative ways of working in my job. Loads of stuff streamlined which shows that it can be done. Sadly, I think we will go fully backwards on most of it. There are not enough forward-thinking managers in the police to keep the momentum going, I suspect. I might be wrong but I have little confidence!
As for what I do at home, probably little different in all honesty, other than reminding mysrlf to be more grateful for what I have that others perhaps do not have.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 9, 2020 11:52:49 GMT
Ive seen a pretty impressive range of innovative ways of working in my job. Loads of stuff streamlined which shows that it can be done. Sadly, I think we will go fully backwards on most of it. There are not enough forward-thinking managers in the police to keep the momentum going, I suspect. I might be wrong but I have little confidence! As for what I do at home, probably little different in all honesty, other than reminding mysrlf to be more grateful for what I have that others perhaps do not have. We all have:
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Post by alf on Apr 9, 2020 13:46:31 GMT
I think in sales there will still be a lot of face to face meetings as it simply works. We will do more online internally, and also vet the meetings better and travel only to the ones worth visiting, I think. I think it will be quite hard mentally to get back into working flat out after this, I reckon I'm on about 50% capacity right now (for which I'll have lost about 30-40% of my pay which relies on commission, so fair enough).
Home wise I was in some ways made for this, I always have various hobbies and so on that I don't have time for, and I'm enjoying being able to take a daily run/cycle without worrying about it being in the daytime and colleagues seeing it on Strava - my hope would be that globally work/life balance is given more credibility. no point working yourself to the bone to be rich and old then die from a bug that targets the old... Enjoy life all the way through!
I travelled a lot before for pleasure and I will perhaps more now. I have some urges to walk some long (3-6 month) distance paths in places like the US and NZ.... I find it hard to have the confidence to give up work temporarily in a line of work that is difficult to pause, but maybe I'll have the balls now.
Oh and I'm a lot better at Fortnite than I was :-)
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Post by garry on Apr 9, 2020 13:51:52 GMT
I think my work life will change significantly post isolation. I imagine that virtual training will become much more accepted and remote consultancy too. That should mean less time on the road, more nights at home. I'm really enjoying the daily bike ride but missing a swim. I'm going to look into an endless pool after this and I'll improve the garage gym. I've got a three car garage but only use one of them so I'm wondering what sort of gym/pool combo I'd get in a two car garage space. All based on the premise that I'll have any money at the end of this crisis!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 14:57:58 GMT
How much is an endless pool? I'm missing it, but suspect I'd not be prepared to shell out enough for that solution.
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Post by Martin on Apr 9, 2020 15:04:48 GMT
How much is an endless pool? I'm missing it, but suspect I'd not be prepared to shell out enough for that solution. There may be cheaper options, but a local garden centre has them and the ones they sell start at around the £10-12k mark (iirc, might have been more), the more expensive ones have a jacuzzi at the end. I think the prices went up from there, to at least £60k
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 15:10:17 GMT
I wonder how much maintenance they need. I think I'd rather have a 77" screen and a new pair of stereo speakers - and a few quid in change!
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Post by michael on Apr 9, 2020 15:20:24 GMT
It’s tempting to say little will change as in many ways we aren’t affected as some we are both home based. We are going to get chickens and get the vegetable garden in place but this is more an acceleration of previous plans than new ones. Our dining room is currently a home gym but we are also looking at a pool of some variety. It’s been on the cards a while but this is making us think about it more seriously. One thing we will definitely do more is use group FaceTime and zoom. It’s been a great way to keep in touch with people.
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 15:28:44 GMT
Our dining room is currently a home gym but we are also looking at a pool of some variety. It’s been on the cards a while but this is making us think about it more seriously. Can't you just dig a hole in your garden and wait for Yorkshire Water to fill it for you?
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Post by garry on Apr 9, 2020 15:29:29 GMT
How much is an endless pool? I'm missing it, but suspect I'd not be prepared to shell out enough for that solution. There may be cheaper options, but a local garden centre has them and the ones they sell start at around the £10-12k mark (iirc, might have been more), the more expensive ones have a jacuzzi at the end. I think the prices went up from there, to at least £60k I'm at the lower end of that budget! Still doesn't make much economic sense vs gym membership but I think I'd get alot from it. My man maths logic is that I was spending a stupid amount of money taking all the kids to Florida this summer. With that cancelled I can spend that money in an equally wasteful way!
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Post by michael on Apr 9, 2020 15:31:48 GMT
Our dining room is currently a home gym but we are also looking at a pool of some variety. It’s been on the cards a while but this is making us think about it more seriously. Can't you just dig a hole in your garden and wait for Yorkshire Water to fill it for you? Please don’t joke about things like that. They only cleared up after their last mess yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 15:33:01 GMT
Well, if you concrete the whole you can at least use it positively.
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Post by johnc on Apr 9, 2020 15:42:35 GMT
I've only known one person who had a pool in their house and in the end they moved because they weren't using it anymore, it cost a lot to heat and they couldn't be bothered with testing the water and then working out what chemicals needed to go in. They were very excited when they got the house and used the pool a good bit in the early days but then it fell away. You could probably pay gym membership for the rest of your life and be better off.
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Post by Martin on Apr 9, 2020 15:45:04 GMT
Can't you just dig a hole in your garden and wait for Yorkshire Water to fill it for you? Please don’t joke about things like that. They only cleared up after their last mess yesterday. We had the same plans, they're not cancelled yet but I'm sure it will only be a matter of time. If so, we'll re-book for next year, but will also fit something in when it's OK to travel again so probably not much of a saving overall, but I'm sure I can man maths the cost of this years holiday into the new car fund. Less wasteful than an endless pool! As for the original point of the thread, I'm not really sure. I've been flat our working from home, so in theory could do that more, but work has been all about business continuity. So maximising volume and keeping track fo the impact of increased absence and all the additional cost it's taking to run the network. That's all OK from home, but my job in normal times is to lead the team and drive the strategy, which does require face to face engagement and going out and seeing what's going on in sites. We may buy a larger freezer for the garage to replace the under counter size one we have now as additional space, we'll certainly be getting out / having weekends away more than ever when we're able to and I'm enjoying the evening walks with Lindsay and Max (well, he rides...), so that will continue. Looking forward to getting the cleaner back. Will also think about getting some home gym equipment, but I prefer to get out on my bike for exercise.
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Post by Martin on Apr 9, 2020 15:46:34 GMT
I've only known one person who had a pool in their house and in the end they moved because they weren't using it anymore, it cost a lot to heat and they couldn't be bothered with testing the water and then working out what chemicals needed to go in. They were very excited when they got the house and used the pool a good bit in the early days but then it fell away. You could probably pay gym membership for the rest of your life and be better off. My parents neighbours had an indoor pool as part of their house build and they did use it a lot, but when they downsized and sold the house, it was worth less because of the cost of maintaining it, which also made the market a lot smaller.
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Post by garry on Apr 9, 2020 15:52:41 GMT
I've only known one person who had a pool in their house and in the end they moved because they weren't using it anymore, it cost a lot to heat and they couldn't be bothered with testing the water and then working out what chemicals needed to go in. They were very excited when they got the house and used the pool a good bit in the early days but then it fell away. You could probably pay gym membership for the rest of your life and be better off. My parents neighbours had an indoor pool as part of their house build and they did use it a lot, but when they downsized and sold the house, it was worth less because of the cost of maintaining it, which also made the market a lot smaller. A pool is different to an endless pool. Think of an endless pool as a fancy hot tub.
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