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Post by michael on Mar 2, 2020 16:28:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 16:34:10 GMT
Still love the basic shape, but that's a bit caricatured for me. I know a guy who's got the Quaggfoggy and whilst I really like it, the engine note stops me from loving it. It sounds a bit crap, especially for an Alfa.
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Post by Martin on Mar 2, 2020 17:37:14 GMT
Still love the basic shape, but that's a bit caricatured for me. I know a guy who's got the Quaggfoggy and whilst I really like it, the engine note stops me from loving it. It sounds a bit crap, especially for an Alfa. I’ve been in the Stelvio version and you need to put it in the most aggressive mode to get the full exhaust sound. But that means the ESP and TC is fully off, which I wouldn’t fancy in the Giulia. It still didn’t sound as good as I expected, but better than it does in the standard mode. I don’t like the GTA at all, the standard car is much nicer. |
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Post by Andy C on Mar 2, 2020 17:50:27 GMT
Still love the basic shape, but that's a bit caricatured for me. I know a guy who's got the Quaggfoggy and whilst I really like it, the engine note stops me from loving it. It sounds a bit crap, especially for an Alfa. I’ve been in the Stelvio version and you need to put it in the most aggressive mode to get the full exhaust sound. But that means the ESP and TC is fully off, which I wouldn’t fancy in the Giulia. It still didn’t sound as good as I expected, but better than it does in the standard mode. I don’t like the GTA at all, the standard car is much nicer. You don't anymore. From early 2019 the Guilia and Stelvio got a software update so you can have the full exhaust in the other settings too. The Stelvio QF I was in at Silverstone last year had the update |
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Post by Martin on Mar 2, 2020 17:58:27 GMT
I’ve been in the Stelvio version and you need to put it in the most aggressive mode to get the full exhaust sound. But that means the ESP and TC is fully off, which I wouldn’t fancy in the Giulia. It still didn’t sound as good as I expected, but better than it does in the standard mode. I don’t like the GTA at all, the standard car is much nicer. You don't anymore. From early 2019 the Guilia and Stelvio got a software update so you can have the full exhaust in the other settings too. The Stelvio QF I was in at Silverstone last year had the update Interesting and a definite improvement. |
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Post by johnc on Mar 2, 2020 18:04:32 GMT
The rear boots on the GTA look absolutely massive - a dry road car I think!
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Post by michael on Mar 2, 2020 18:52:41 GMT
100kg reduction. Is that based on the rear seat removal reducing passenger capacity? I don’t really see the point of this. For what it will cost you could buy an actual bespoke drivers car.
Alfa are doing what MG Rover did when they were in financial dire straights, pissing money up the wall on cars nobody will buy.
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Post by Blarno on Mar 2, 2020 19:38:34 GMT
I miss the days when an exhaust only had one setting.
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Post by Martin on Mar 2, 2020 19:47:18 GMT
I miss the days when an exhaust only had one setting. I don’t. I like it being nice and quiet on the motorway / at constant speed and more interesting when you want it to be. Depends on the engine though, I’m happy to leave that particular setting in Eco mode on the Golf, but that’s to stop the 5 pot fakery. Still good to have the choice. I don’t get the dislike for configurable options, they make complete sense to me. |
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Post by Sav on Mar 2, 2020 21:34:15 GMT
Only the Italians in 2020 would release a picture of a new car with fire coming out of the tail pipes. About as politically correct as a burning oil refinery, and for that one can't fault them.  Send a photo to Greta! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 23:23:32 GMT
Been watching vids to see what it sounds like but no joy. In one video they get Kimi Raikkonen to wax lyrical about it. It truly is him at his most enthusiastic. Not!
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 3, 2020 0:01:00 GMT
This in no way makes up for canning the GTV!!
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Post by Blarno on Mar 3, 2020 8:53:38 GMT
I miss the days when an exhaust only had one setting. I don’t. I like it being nice and quiet on the motorway / at constant speed and more interesting when you want it to be. Depends on the engine though, I’m happy to leave that particular setting in Eco mode on the Golf, but that’s to stop the 5 pot fakery. Still good to have the choice. I don’t get the dislike for configurable options, they make complete sense to me. It was more along the lines of how 'natural' the exhaust sound actually is. In these days of parpshift and synthetically created exhaust notes, I actually wonder how many cars have a natural exhaust noise. It used to be a dark art to make an exhaust tuneful using certain bends and resonators, now it's just a flap and some speakers. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 3, 2020 9:09:14 GMT
I don’t. I like it being nice and quiet on the motorway / at constant speed and more interesting when you want it to be. Depends on the engine though, I’m happy to leave that particular setting in Eco mode on the Golf, but that’s to stop the 5 pot fakery. Still good to have the choice. I don’t get the dislike for configurable options, they make complete sense to me. It was more along the lines of how 'natural' the exhaust sound actually is. In these days of parpshift and synthetically created exhaust notes, I actually wonder how many cars have a natural exhaust noise. It used to be a dark art to make an exhaust tuneful using certain bends and resonators, now it's just a flap and some speakers. Ahh, OK, I completely agree with you then! Mine has flaps, but no fakery or artificial pops/bangs thankfully, so sounds very natural to me. Whilst we’re on the subject, I don’t get the ‘rattle’ sound so many cars make when they’re revved either, sounds like something is loose.... |
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Post by Tim on Mar 3, 2020 9:30:44 GMT
I liked the occasional pop and bang the 370Z did on high rev downshifts but it wasn't particularly consistent so I was happy that it wasn't manufactured in.
The sound I dislike is the stupid fart on upshifts that too many of the superheated 4 pots do now.
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Post by alf on Mar 30, 2020 13:53:40 GMT
Ooh - I need new underwear...
Doubtless this will sell for about the amount of money I'll be getting from the sale of my old house soon (I get to keep all of 15% of the proceeds)... Who needs a rainy day fund eh???
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Post by PG on Mar 30, 2020 20:38:01 GMT
For £100k that's going to be facing some pretty tough opposition for people's money. Or get the Quadrifoglio and save yourself at least £30k.
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Post by Martin on Mar 30, 2020 21:00:34 GMT
For £100k that's going to be facing some pretty tough opposition for people's money. Or get the Quadrifoglio and save yourself at least £30k. Unregistered ones are on Autotrader from £56k, so so the full fat GTA will be nearly double the cost. Didn’t realise they had a 5 year warranty and breakdown cover....handy. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 31, 2020 9:53:09 GMT
For £100k that's going to be facing some pretty tough opposition for people's money. Or get the Quadrifoglio and save yourself at least £30k. Unregistered ones are on Autotrader from £56k, so so the full fat GTA will be nearly double the cost. Didn’t realise they had a 5 year warranty and breakdown cover....handy. Alfa, with their great ability to shoot themselves in foot, have made the extended 5 year warranty so complicated hardly any car qualifies. The car has to be new retail and factory order to qualify therefore hardly any used ones actually have the balance of 5 years only 3. No Lease, ex demo, pre reg or cars being on a special offer qualify. Also the dealer needs to make sure they have applied for the additional warranty if the car did ever qualify, which given Alfas awesome dealer network, most of them didn't bother. Who in their wisdom at Fiat UK thought that a great idea I dont know but no way would the Germans make such a hash of this stuff, let alone the Japanese and Korean manufactures. As for the GTA, I wasn't sure initially as looked a little too tarty but I'm now loving it. |
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Post by alf on Mar 31, 2020 14:01:11 GMT
Ah, it's rather more £ than I expected then! I'm still not up to speed with the inflation of new car prices... Sounds like my share of the house money wouldn't buy a normal QF. I am careful to ignore the price bit of car reviews  The warranty sounds familiar. I bought my 156GTA new from an alfa specialist not a main dealer, but it was a UK model that had undergone PDI here. When it came to the third year of the warranty they would not honour it and claimed it was an "import", then claimed it was only valid for the original owner (it had been pre-registered to Fiat UK before I bought it). It seemed to me from digging that the dealer I was using for servicing had forgotten to do it - when I moved to a different one they registered it and honoured it. The usual Italian balls-up... |
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Post by Andy C on Mar 31, 2020 16:36:11 GMT
Unregistered ones are on Autotrader from £56k, so so the full fat GTA will be nearly double the cost. Didn’t realise they had a 5 year warranty and breakdown cover....handy. Alfa, with their great ability to shoot themselves in foot, have made the extended 5 year warranty so complicated hardly any car qualifies. The car has to be new retail and factory order to qualify therefore hardly any used ones actually have the balance of 5 years only 3. No Lease, ex demo, pre reg or cars being on a special offer qualify. Also the dealer needs to make sure they have applied for the additional warranty if the car did ever qualify, which given Alfas awesome dealer network, most of them didn't bother. Who in their wisdom at Fiat UK thought that a great idea I dont know but no way would the Germans make such a hash of this stuff, let alone the Japanese and Korean manufactures. As for the GTA, I wasn't sure initially as looked a little too tarty but I'm now loving it. What a shame. How tempting would a 2/3 year old QF be with 3 or so years warranty left |
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Post by Martin on Apr 30, 2020 19:27:33 GMT
So, the price has been revealed.
£153,599 for the GTA and £158,258 for the GTAm.
Wow!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 19:46:39 GMT
W?ATFM,OTWB,OJFMAH? Just thought I would let some block capitals out for a spell outside of isolation.
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Post by racingteatray on May 1, 2020 7:26:22 GMT
So, the price has been revealed. £153,599 for the GTA and £158,258 for the GTAm. Wow!! Isn't a normal one about £60ish? |
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Post by Martin on May 1, 2020 7:41:33 GMT
So, the price has been revealed. £153,599 for the GTA and £158,258 for the GTAm. Wow!! Isn't a normal one about £60ish? Just over but there are a few unregistered ones for mid £50s. |
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Post by PetrolEd on May 1, 2020 8:20:05 GMT
Lovely as it may be I wouldn't want to part with 150k for one but there are lot of super rich Alfisti out there who may well be tempted. Its not as if the Project 8 has been a run away success however.
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Post by PG on May 1, 2020 13:29:24 GMT
Lovely as it may be I wouldn't want to part with 150k for one but there are lot of super rich Alfisti out there who may well be tempted. Its not as if the Project 8 has been a run away success however. Pretty much my first thought - that price is Project 8 territory and that's hardly been a sell out. Although perhaps they are different audiences. Well moneyed Alfisti may well want that GTA. But well monied Jag-heads want a re-engineered E-Type or other re-engineered / restored classic. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 18:23:28 GMT
Having seen the car before and now the Harris review, all I can say is "Want one". That Alfa sings my kind of song.
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Post by Roadsterstu on May 3, 2020 10:38:33 GMT
Now THAT is an Alfa.
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