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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 16:25:48 GMT
Had my front discs and pads done today - sourced OEM Brembo parts from a website recommended at RS246, costing £535 delivered - Audi charges some considerable amount more than £1k for them, btw.
Shims and bolts were seized to the callipers, which was a right faff to sort but they've done it, getting everything back to as good as new and using non-OEM stainless bolts that should ensure this doesn't happen again. A few small parts needed, total cost another £408, so total cost around £940. So why am I happy?
Audi would have just replaced the callipers, which are £735. Each. Plus VAT. As well as fleecing me for the discs/pads and charging £250 p/h plus for labour.
I reckon I'd have been looking at a four grand bill if I'd stayed in the clutches of the evil empire... |
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Post by Blarno on Feb 29, 2020 16:01:01 GMT
I genuinely am in the wrong business, I've often thought about going down the route of being an indy or a mobile tech, but lack the capital upfront.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 1, 2020 9:41:24 GMT
I wonder how many people wanting the "Audi experience" when leasing an A3 are prepared for those dealer labour rates!
Skoda have quoted me 780 quid for a timing belt and front discs and pads at 530. So, Indy it will be for timing belt and I'll do the discs and pads.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 1, 2020 9:41:50 GMT
Which Indy did you use?
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Post by Boxer6 on Mar 1, 2020 9:47:59 GMT
I wonder how many people wanting the "Audi experience" when leasing an A3 are prepared for those dealer labour rates! Skoda have quoted me 780 quid for a timing belt and front discs and pads at 530. So, Indy it will be for timing belt and I'll do the discs and pads. No idea what my Skoda dealer would want for disc/pad change; my local indy did all 4 discs and pads plus an oil 'service' the other week for £400 all in. Guess who'll be doing the full service? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 11:37:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 13:53:26 GMT
How much do they charge you per hour, btw? I am guessing that because the majority of new cars are company conveyances that the companies are also footing the bills, all trading expenses so nowhere near as bad as they are for a private joe. I have nothing but contempt for my local dealership and won't use them for anything again unless there is no option.
Stu, BR Cartronics. Not much to look at but I'm happy to recommend them - service manager is called Kriss. www.brcartronics.com/ I think the hourly rate is under £70 and in the past they have frequently done more work than has been charged for.
Worth looking here for discs/pads etc, though I very much doubt I've chosen the correct model! : www.cartech-one.co.uk/en/search/v-59679/n-244/skoda-octavia-iii-brake-kit
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 14:23:46 GMT
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Post by Martin on Mar 1, 2020 14:26:41 GMT
Some manufacturers drop the rates / fixed price servicing costs when the car reaches 3 years old to try and keep you in the dealer network. Do Audi do anything?
It’s a lot cheaper to service your Porsche when it’s superseded by a new model, which along with relatively reasonable extended warranty costs, mean it makes sense to keep it looked after by the main dealer. When the front pads/discs needed replacing, we used our local specialist (the ones who sold the car for us) because they were a couple of hundred pounds cheaper and used genuine parts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 14:55:24 GMT
They don't say! Looking at an invoice, the oil change I had in May last year was £101 parts, £177 labour (both +VAT so £334), so labour must be expensive coz it's almost double the parts. They appear to have discounted the parts, probably because I kicked off about having to take the car in just three months after getting it. All the bits (pollen and air filters, screenwash and sump plug) had 20% off and the oil was reduced by nearly £100. ETA: I've added it up without the discounts and it comes to £461.31. For a fuckin' oil change! No - the invoice structure does seem to try to hide the hourly rate - I'd ask the fuckers.
Audi used to do a scheme for older cars, but dropped it when the realised there was cash to be squeezed out.
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Post by grampa on Mar 2, 2020 14:44:10 GMT
The only time the Sirocco dealer is anywhere near competitive to the independent I've used for the last 25 years is for an oil service - for pretty much everything else, the dealer is around twice the prices, particularly on replacement of wearing parts.
Just had new brake pads on the MINI. The garage owner was telling me he not long ago replaced the brake pads on a Porsche Panamera. Two weeks later it went to the dealer for a service - they told the owner it needed new pads and disks!! Said owner said the pads were less than two weeks old and the dealer then told him it still needed new disks! - he was then a bit paranoid so had the independent replace them even though they didn't need it. I asked the independent owner if he'd ever worked at a dealer and he said he hadn't but talks to a lot of mechanics that have or still do - apparently some premium brand dealers pay their mechanics commission on workshop work and parts they upsell!
Me? - I'd have told the Porsche service manager that my next call was going to be to Trading Standards!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 16:13:50 GMT
Leicester Audi had me replace the front discs and pads after 14k miles, even though I am very far from the last of the late brakers. The set just replaced had done around 3.5x that many at 50k, and even though I know they were getting to the stage of needing doing the still worked fine and the yellow 'early warning' hadn't illuminated, let alone the red 'your knackered' warning. Audi had been suggesting that they needed doing for at least three years, and they were wrong/on the rob (delete as applicable).
Basically they picked my pocket with the first set, the lying, grasping fuckers...
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Post by johnc on Mar 2, 2020 17:52:25 GMT
Leicester Audi had me replace the front discs and pads after 14k miles, even though I am very far from the last of the late brakers. The set just replaced had done around 3.5x that many at 50k, and even though I know they were getting to the stage of needing doing the still worked fine and the yellow 'early warning' hadn't illuminated, let alone the red 'your knackered' warning. Audi had been suggesting that they needed doing for at least three years, and they were wrong/on the rob (delete as applicable). Basically they picked my pocket with the first set, the lying, grasping fuckers... That's far, far too common from the main stealers and as car sales decline I can only see it getting worse as they try to make up for the profits lost on car sales. I bought myself a brake disc micrometer and have measured the discs and noted the new thickness too. The dealer demand that discs and pads must be changed together is just crap. As long as the disc doesn't have big ridges there is nothing wrong with new pads on their own. |
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Post by Stuntman on Mar 2, 2020 21:09:01 GMT
Leicester Audi had me replace the front discs and pads after 14k miles, even though I am very far from the last of the late brakers. The set just replaced had done around 3.5x that many at 50k, and even though I know they were getting to the stage of needing doing the still worked fine and the yellow 'early warning' hadn't illuminated, let alone the red 'your knackered' warning. Audi had been suggesting that they needed doing for at least three years, and they were wrong/on the rob (delete as applicable). Basically they picked my pocket with the first set, the lying, grasping fuckers... Grasping indeed. I imagine I'm probably a little heavier on brakes than you, Simon - and neither the discs nor the pads on the M3 needed replacing until I'd done over 60k miles and owned the car for 8 and a half years. New discs and pads plus a new battery cost me about £1600 at main dealer prices, mind. Not cheap, but not completely ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 8:03:20 GMT
Be worth having a look at the Cartech1 website and seeing how much discs/pads are, assuming that they stock OEM stuff for yours (as they do mine).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 10:40:36 GMT
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Post by Tim on Mar 3, 2020 11:06:12 GMT
Years ago I was unhappy at having to get new front discs for the M5 from the BMW dealer as BMW haven't released the pattern for general production but reading the amounts being bandied about above I don't feel so bad anymore. Front calipers for it are £115 each on exchange too  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 11:44:57 GMT
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Post by johnc on Mar 3, 2020 13:01:00 GMT
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Post by Martin on Mar 3, 2020 13:20:19 GMT
I’ve just checked back and genuine Porsche front discs and pads cost £522 at my local specialist. It would have been around £900 at the main dealer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 15:29:10 GMT
They 'avin a larf, ain't they!
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