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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 15:57:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 16:10:01 GMT
Typically an F1 car will be set up so that its front wheels are aligned with ‘toe-out’, which simply means that they splay out at the bottom away from the centre of the car, with the top pointing inwards.
Isn't that camber? Toe means the wheels pointing slightly in or out, leading edge of tyre in relation to rear.
With the same team/driver looking the fastest, my decision to stop watching a few years back seems the right one for me still. |
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Post by johnc on Feb 20, 2020 16:25:49 GMT
Typically an F1 car will be set up so that its front wheels are aligned with ‘toe-out’, which simply means that they splay out at the bottom away from the centre of the car, with the top pointing inwards.
Isn't that camber? Toe means the wheels pointing slightly in or out, leading edge of tyre in relation to rear.
With the same team/driver looking the fastest, my decision to stop watching a few years back seems the right one for me still. Quite right twelfth. Good to see that the journalists know what they are talking about! |
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 20, 2020 16:34:32 GMT
I'll be surprised if that isn't banned by the time they get back to Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 16:56:00 GMT
Some kind of safety issue no doubt.
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Post by Ben on Feb 20, 2020 18:02:23 GMT
That's quite interesting actually. But it just seems to be an extra bit of complexity and potential for something to go wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 21:57:23 GMT
It looks as seen to benefit cornering and straight line speed so worth the risk perhaps.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 6:45:20 GMT
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Post by johnc on Feb 21, 2020 9:58:19 GMT
I thought it was very clever and clearly an engineering masterpiece: I imagine the forces whilst cornering and riding kerbs have the potential to pull and push the steering wheel so there must be some kind of hydraulic or electric lock on it otherwise the drivers would have a torrid time with both the normal steering forces and fore and aft ones as well. I know these guys can process a lot of information at the same time but that might have pushed them over the edge if it was happening mid corner as they were having a wheel to wheel moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:11:32 GMT
It is clever, and I suspect it's been considered before but deemed technically unviable until now.
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Post by Tim on Feb 21, 2020 12:15:36 GMT
Is it just me that disliked the thought of a steering column that's free to move in and out while you're driving?
I always adjust mine while stationary.
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 21, 2020 12:18:35 GMT
I guess under breaking and acceleration the G force at work probably makes this feel not to unnatural
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Post by Ben on Feb 21, 2020 17:16:47 GMT
I thought it was very clever and clearly an engineering masterpiece: I imagine the forces whilst cornering and riding kerbs have the potential to pull and push the steering wheel so there must be some kind of hydraulic or electric lock on it otherwise the drivers would have a torrid time with both the normal steering forces and fore and aft ones as well. I know these guys can process a lot of information at the same time but that might have pushed them over the edge if it was happening mid corner as they were having a wheel to wheel moment. That's what I thought as well, having to deal with pulling and pushing the wheel mid corner must be quite a complex task. I do still admire the engineering however. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 22, 2020 8:42:44 GMT
First opportunity I’ve had to look at the system and it’s odd nobody’s looked into This before. If you can move the tow by a few degrees your getting a lap time saving of 0.2s maybe, an additional 1 or 2 laps of less degradation and the ability to add or lessen more toe if a track has fast and slow corners like Silverstone.
The problem for the other teams is that it’s no quick bolt on and therefore can they or do they even attempt to copy the system themselves.
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 22, 2020 9:12:15 GMT
..... and it's outlawed for 2021 so the other teams now have to consider if it's worth diverting a lot of resources into adopting it for 9 months of racing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 9:20:21 GMT
It seems daft to me that teams will discuss ideas with the governing body which will agree 'in principle' that they are legal, before banning them (in some shape or form) as soon as the other teams grumble.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 13:38:32 GMT
Agreed but, it's the FIA, it's what they do best.
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