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Post by johnc on Dec 16, 2019 18:46:28 GMT
I just got this through from Shell so I don't need to go electric!  |
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Post by Martin on Dec 16, 2019 19:28:41 GMT
Well done!
Average of 34 litres per visit? That must be filling up nearly twice as often as you need to.
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Post by johnc on Dec 16, 2019 19:35:12 GMT
Well done! Average of 34 litres per visit? That must be filling up nearly twice as often as you need to. Three or four of those visits would be putting diesel in the wife's car which I tend to do whenever we are out - otherwise she doesn't fill it up and waits until about 10 o'clock at night to tell me that she only has 10 or 15 miles range left! She hates petrol stations as much as the cold aisle in the supermarket. I also don't run mine down below a quarter before I fill up. |
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Post by Martin on Dec 16, 2019 19:41:54 GMT
Well done! Average of 34 litres per visit? That must be filling up nearly twice as often as you need to. Three or four of those visits would be putting diesel in the wife's car which I tend to do whenever we are out - otherwise she doesn't fill it up and waits until about 10 o'clock at night to tell me that she only has 10 or 15 miles range left! She hates petrol stations as much as the cold aisle in the supermarket. I also don't run mine down below a quarter before I fill up. I’m with her on that, I hate petrol stations and having to go into supermarkets in general! The only minor positive at this time of year is the amount of heat that comes out of the car in the area of the fuel filler, it’s like standing in front of a blown air heater. I’ve checked and it’s not on fire.....! I think I’d let her run out of petrol and rely on BMW assistance, it’s unlikely she’d do it twice! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 20:47:28 GMT
"I think I’d let her run out of petrol and rely on BMW assistance, it’s unlikely she’d do it twice"!
I don't think he would either.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 17, 2019 8:41:58 GMT
"I think I’d let her run out of petrol and rely on BMW assistance, it’s unlikely she’d do it twice"! I don't think he would either. My thoughts entirely. It would take a brave man.. |
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Post by Martin on Dec 17, 2019 8:48:54 GMT
You have to be brave man to let your wife fill her own car up and take responsibility for not running out?
Madness!
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Post by Tim on Dec 17, 2019 9:14:07 GMT
I had a colleague years ago who ran out of petrol at least once a year. It was a 'he', not a she. No lessons were ever learned. A mate deliberately ran out of fuel once to see how many miles he got once the fuel light came on (he had a can of petrol in the boot). It was an Alfa 75 V6 and he managed 17 miles  |
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Post by PG on Dec 17, 2019 12:05:18 GMT
So, basically if we all paid 1.2ppl more for fuel, we could all offset our ICE emissions? And the greens say that cars are the issue.......
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 17, 2019 12:10:00 GMT
Can Shell claim carbon offset by "protecting" forests? How do you quantify that? What financial costs does that involve?
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Post by Tim on Dec 17, 2019 13:41:17 GMT
Can Shell claim carbon offset by "protecting" forests? How do you quantify that? What financial costs does that involve? Some bloke with a flat cap and a shotgun shouting 'Get orff Shell's land'? |
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Post by johnc on Dec 17, 2019 13:49:31 GMT
Can Shell claim carbon offset by "protecting" forests? How do you quantify that? What financial costs does that involve? In the original blurb, Shell said they were planting new trees. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 15:34:19 GMT
I ran out of fuel once, many moons ago when I first got a motorbike. The lesson took.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 17, 2019 15:47:11 GMT
Does this carbon offsetting thing even work? Or is this simply an attempt to appear to be "green"?
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Post by johnc on Dec 17, 2019 15:49:58 GMT
Does this carbon offsetting thing even work? Or is this simply an attempt to appear to be "green"? I've got my certificate so it must work! I am all for tree planting though and none of the scientists are telling us that more trees are a bad thing. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 17, 2019 17:16:16 GMT
Does this carbon offsetting thing even work? Or is this simply an attempt to appear to be "green"? I've got my certificate so it must work! I am all for tree planting though and none of the scientists are telling us that more trees are a bad thing. That's certainly true. |
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Post by Tim on Dec 17, 2019 17:19:47 GMT
I've started trying to reduce carbon emissions by refusing to take part in the stupid Christmas jersey thing at work.
I also plan to plant some trees when I move house to partially offset some more emissions.
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 17, 2019 18:05:56 GMT
I've started trying to reduce carbon emissions by refusing to take part in the stupid Christmas jersey thing at work. How does that work? Extra fuel use from wearing heavier clothes when you are wearing a jumper?? |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 18, 2019 7:58:11 GMT
I've started trying to reduce carbon emissions by refusing to take part in the stupid Christmas jersey thing at work. How does that work? Extra fuel use from wearing heavier clothes when you are wearing a jumper?? Most Xmas jumpers are made from oil based man-made fibres. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 18, 2019 10:59:32 GMT
How does that work? Extra fuel use from wearing heavier clothes when you are wearing a jumper?? Most Xmas jumpers are made from oil based man-made fibres. Plus they are probably transported half way around the world in huge numbers, bought and then worn only once. |
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Post by Alex on Dec 18, 2019 11:17:30 GMT
Can Shell claim carbon offset by "protecting" forests? How do you quantify that? What financial costs does that involve? In the original blurb, Shell said they were planting new trees. How do they calculate that they have offset the carbon. Can they really quantify how much CO2 the tree will absorb and if so what timescale is it based on? What if the trees die early or are chopped down in 10 years when the current marketing manager has left and his replacement has forgotten all about this campaign. And what happens at the end of the trees life, will they be used as firewood? It’s good they’re doing something but given that She’ll have been selling petrol since 1907 its going to take a while for them to truly offset the emissions they’re products have produced. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 18, 2019 11:26:38 GMT
In the original blurb, Shell said they were planting new trees. ... but given that She’ll have been selling petrol since 1907... Who's she? The cat's mother? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:37:07 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 18, 2019 11:57:57 GMT
Most Xmas jumpers are made from oil based man-made fibres. Plus they are probably transported half way around the world in huge numbers, bought and then worn only once. Coppers are the worst for man-made fibres - practically the whole uniform is synthetic. Should make it out of hemp, there'd be a satisfactory irony in that. |
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 18, 2019 12:24:43 GMT
Can Shell claim carbon offset by "protecting" forests? How do you quantify that? What financial costs does that involve? In the original blurb, Shell said they were planting new trees. Thank goodness that they weren't going to plant second-hand trees........ |
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Post by PG on Dec 18, 2019 13:25:23 GMT
Does this carbon offsetting thing even work? Or is this simply an attempt to appear to be "green"? I've got my certificate so it must work! I am all for tree planting though and none of the scientists are telling us that more trees are a bad thing. I think that it works, so long as only a limited number of people do it. But there is simply not enough space for us all to plant enough trees to offset all our CO2. But as we have to get about by car, I think that it makes sense at that level. I have more difficulty with people who choose to offset their totally voluntary international flight to an exotic holiday destination. They could just try not going instead. |
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 18, 2019 13:38:21 GMT
I have more difficulty with people who choose to offset their totally voluntary international flight to an exotic holiday destination. They could just try not going instead. That kind-of defeats most people's idea of having a holiday......... |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 18, 2019 13:43:10 GMT
I have more difficulty with people who choose to offset their totally voluntary international flight to an exotic holiday destination. They could just try not going instead. That kind-of defeats most people's idea of having a holiday......... We sometimes holiday at home; lock the front door and close the curtains, tell people we're away, get the inflatable paddling pool out, shop at Tesco instead of Sainsburys, charge up the Kindles, and we're good to go. |
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Post by Martin on Dec 18, 2019 13:55:59 GMT
I have more difficulty with people who choose to offset their totally voluntary international flight to an exotic holiday destination. They could just try not going instead. That kind-of defeats most people's idea of having a holiday......... Exactly! I’d drive a more eco friendly car before I stopped having nice holidays..... |
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Post by ChrisM on Dec 18, 2019 14:16:53 GMT
That kind-of defeats most people's idea of having a holiday......... We sometimes holiday at home; lock the front door and close the curtains, tell people we're away, get the inflatable paddling pool out, shop at Tesco instead of Sainsburys, charge up the Kindles, and we're good to go. Go where ?? Tesco ? Some holiday that would be ! |
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