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Post by Tim on May 18, 2017 13:50:17 GMT
I can't help but feel sorry for the poor dear due to the sacrifices he's been forced (at gunpoint?) to make.
Copied below from the BBC F1 Gossip section.
"Three-time world champion Hamilton has criticised the racing industry, admitting his career has stopped him having a social life or any personal growth". (Daily Mail)
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Post by johnc on May 18, 2017 14:59:12 GMT
That's much the same attitude as the Prima Dona footballers who live life in such a rarefied bubble that they lose all sense of reality. They have so much money that life was never going to be even remotely "normal"
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Post by Tim on May 18, 2017 15:20:36 GMT
Yup. I'd say that from what I've read/heard on here Hamilton has had a fairly decent social life and his own actions have limited his ability to extend it. E.g. If he chose to have a girlfriend in LA and fly across there then it was his own choice to spend 12 hours each way travelling. I'm sure that most of us in our 'courting' days were seeing someone who probably lived within 30 minutes travel.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 15:51:43 GMT
Plus, if he'd picked a lass whose house he could drive to he'd be able to do it much quicker than us mere mortals!
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Post by Big Blue on May 18, 2017 16:11:35 GMT
Interestingly I was talking about this with my squash opponent today. I'm not sure what he thinks he would have achieved if he'd lived like a normal teenager, turned up at a kart race with a hangover and half-doped with his balls empty and stinking of pussy.
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Post by johnc on May 18, 2017 17:42:48 GMT
Interestingly I was talking about this with my squash opponent today. I'm not sure what he thinks he would have achieved if he'd lived like a normal teenager, turned up at a kart race with a hangover and half-doped with his balls empty and stinking of pussy. I'm sure he could introduce that to his life now if he feels he has missed anything. Think I might be missing Nicole if I was him!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 7:52:27 GMT
Double post, please delete.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 7:57:31 GMT
Kimi lived a similar lifestyle, I imagine his alcohol intake has reduced somewhat and his "image" did not seem to suffer, not to mention James Hunt and Mike Hawthorn both of whom had loud and very active personal lives in their day. Nicole has an amazing chassis which no doubt was, driven to the limit with lots of sideways action in the wet, but she comes across as a vapid somewhat self centred character with little interest outside self promotion.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 14:22:15 GMT
It is unbecoming of those with huge choice in front of them to bitch about their options.
Race on if you must, but appreciate your lot and acknowledge it is just that - your choice. Or jack it in and have some fun. You can afford to, and some personal growth seems to be long overdue.
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Post by Tim on Jul 13, 2017 13:22:25 GMT
Apparently there was some F1 demo in London at which Ricciardo did doughnuts.
However, Hamilton didn't go as he was having a short holiday in Greece. Fair enough but then reading something else, courtesy of the BBC website, makes me realise again that Da Ham is a knob.
"Lewis Hamilton says he does not know whether he is loved at home as much as he loves his country. Ahead of the British Grand Prix, the triple world champion says he hopes people are starting to see his patriotism as he chases another title with Mercedes"
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Post by humphreythepug on Jul 13, 2017 14:41:54 GMT
Apparently there was some F1 demo in London at which Ricciardo did doughnuts. However, Hamilton didn't go as he was having a short holiday in Greece. Fair enough but then reading something else, courtesy of the BBC website, makes me realise again that Da Ham is a knob. " Lewis Hamilton says he does not know whether he is loved at home as much as he loves his country. Ahead of the British Grand Prix, the triple world champion says he hopes people are starting to see his patriotism as he chases another title with Mercedes" The words of a very insecure man, and given there was an F1 demo in London a few days ago, the very London that is the capital city of his birth country and also his home GP; which is this weekend, one would assume he would have been more than happy to attend, however he was the only current driver who didn't go as he decided to hang out with his "homies" instead; perhaps they love him more!! He really doesn't help himself sometimes.
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 13, 2017 14:52:44 GMT
When he doesn't show up at the BRDC party on race weekend and his (German) team mate does and is charming, engaging and rapturously applauded he doesn't really help himself, does he?
Let's face it: he's a fabulous driver, a proper old school racer and a worthy world title winner. But his determination and drive have culminated in some kind of veneered public persona that most likely isn't him at all, just who he needs to be to maintain his race persona - like Alice Cooper needing to come on stage looking like a twat so we don't see a late middle-aged golfer rocking it up. What he needs is a really horrible interview with Paxman or someone, like the one given to Tony Hancock in Face to Face which by all accounts led him to look at himself and his life achievements (which weren't too shabby) and ultimately crash his career and commit suicide.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 14, 2017 9:20:46 GMT
No doubt Hamilton's insecure as he's a working class lad from Stevenage surrounded by the old money great and the good. As such I don't see him being at ease in the BRDC club supping champagne in his monogramed blazer extoling the virtues of a decent Barolo over a Pomerol which lets be honest is far more Rosbergs bag.
Is he the most exciting driver on the grid? He used to be but Vestappen has stolen that crown so he's in a difficult transition and to be fair looks rather bored of it all. I suggest he's only still in F1 so he can keep hanging around with his a list celeb mates.
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 14, 2017 9:52:24 GMT
No doubt Hamilton's insecure as he's a working class lad from Stevenage surrounded by the old money great and the good. As such I don't see him being at ease in the BRDC club supping champagne in his monogramed blazer extoling the virtues of a decent Barolo over a Pomerol which lets be honest is far more Rosbergs bag. They let me in.....
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 14, 2017 10:16:34 GMT
That's because on the weekend your alternate persona is that of Lord muck of cow shite farm, old boy
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Post by Big Blue on Jul 30, 2017 16:31:03 GMT
Fair play to him today: played the team game. He'd proved his point to Valtteri by leaving him for dust.
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Post by Martin on Jul 30, 2017 17:50:42 GMT
Fair play to him today: played the team game. He'd proved his point to Valtteri by leaving him for dust. +1. I was a surprised, but as you say, fair play.
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Post by Tim on Jul 31, 2017 12:24:22 GMT
If he does something pleasant like that every race for the rest of career I might change my view on him. But only if he also stops wearing his sunglasses every second he's out of the car.
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 31, 2017 12:53:12 GMT
^ ... and stops taking his dogs into the Paddock
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Post by Alex on Jul 31, 2017 13:12:48 GMT
Why do you care so much about his dog and sunglasses?! Taking your dog with you when travelling is hardly a crime and is part of being a responsible dog owner. I wear sunglasses most the time when I'm outside at the moment, it hardly matters and doesn't mean I'm a dick (I find other ways of ensuring that status!)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 13:59:46 GMT
I don't think Hamilton is any worse than the others. Few people will go on about Vettel for instance and despite his experience, he is still a spoilt brat as he proved while ramming Hamilton's car.
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Post by Tim on Jul 31, 2017 14:52:40 GMT
There's nothing wrong with wearing sunglasses but Da Ham wears them all the time, even when he's being interviewed while the drivers around him aren't. I think its rude - unless the sun was actually in his eyes which it clearly isn't all the time.
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Post by Alex on Jul 31, 2017 18:53:25 GMT
There's nothing wrong with wearing sunglasses but Da Ham wears them all the time, even when he's being interviewed while the drivers around him aren't. I think its rude - unless the sun was actually in his eyes which it clearly isn't all the time. I don't think it's as dickish as some other sports personalities act tbh. I appreciate that he acts and dresses in a manner more akin to a rap artist and certainly lives a more celebrity lifestyle than most F1 drivers but on balance I still believe he's done more good than bad for the sport. At no point has he deliberately rammed a title opponent off the track like Vettel and Schumacher have and his act of sportsmanship towards Bottas isn't something either the aforementioned drivers would have ever considered. Perhaps Mark Webber would be a former world champion had Vettel done so (which I accept could also be sign of strength as far as Vettel and Schumacher are concerned) but no one really criticises Seb for not. Personally I'm glad Hamilton has come out and stated his desire to win the championship properly and not through team orders. It's an attitude that allowed for an excellent contest between him and Niko last year. Vettel would never have stood for that, which is why some of his championship seasons with Red Bull turned into a procession. Webber knew there was no point fighting Seb from the mid point of the season onwards. Lewis seems to be of the attitude that whilst no one ever remembers a guy for losing a world championship by a point (ask Felipe Massa about that!), he'd rather the season be remembered for the excitement of the chase not the dullness of 1 car performing 60 parade laps.
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Post by Tim on Aug 1, 2017 8:53:02 GMT
I agree with your points but we're not talking about the other drivers here.
And remember, for all his arrogance, etc around F1 Schumacher was (is?) a huge contributor to charitable organisations so, although he never apparently publicised it, he was a human somewhere under that public persona.
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Post by Alex on Aug 1, 2017 9:04:53 GMT
I agree with your points but we're not talking about the other drivers here. And remember, for all his arrogance, etc around F1 Schumacher was (is?) a huge contributor to charitable organisations so, although he never apparently publicised it, he was a human somewhere under that public persona. That's a fair point too and prior to his accident and following his retirement he was an ambassador for the sport, something which is a shame he's no longer able to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 13:11:10 GMT
If we talk about one driver being flawed then pointing out the flaws of others seems reasonable. A certain Haas driver who was so poor at judging braking points and car width nearly killed several other drivers of Fernando Alonso who was so upset at his inability to handle a rookie, left the team and with another Spanish driver, sold McLaren down the river despite all teams having some form of information on the other teams.
Kick one, kick them all because none of them are perfect or how we would like them to be.
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Post by Big Blue on Aug 2, 2017 8:26:09 GMT
Yeah Grosjean should have a life ban.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 5:55:46 GMT
At least. Perhaps tack on five minutes per day day listening to my sister. Inhuman I know but what else can you do?
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