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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 15:25:40 GMT
Never taken off outside America, and this will be no different. Well it's only this current generation that's been sold worldwide, as all previous versions were (officially) US only. But lots of people have seen and are aware of the Mustang through movies, TV shows and etc. Does that matter? Lots of American cars are known outisde the home market, but at least as far as Europe is concerned they sell rather less well than used toilet roll. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 19, 2019 15:44:23 GMT
Well it's only this current generation that's been sold worldwide, as all previous versions were (officially) US only. But lots of people have seen and are aware of the Mustang through movies, TV shows and etc. Does that matter? Lots of American cars are known outisde the home market, but at least as far as Europe is concerned they sell rather less well than used toilet roll. A lot of good European cars have historically sold poorly in the US - it doesn't make them bad cars, just not suited to that market. |
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Post by Blarno on Nov 19, 2019 16:01:16 GMT
If Ford make another Capri, it'll be a FWD tall hatch with a 3 pot hybrid.
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Post by Tim on Nov 19, 2019 16:10:38 GMT
If Ford make another Capri, it'll be a FWD tall hatch with a 3 pot hybrid. You say that as if its a bad thing  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 16:11:46 GMT
Does that matter? Lots of American cars are known outisde the home market, but at least as far as Europe is concerned they sell rather less well than used toilet roll. A lot of good European cars have historically sold poorly in the US - it doesn't make them bad cars, just not suited to that market. The point being that the rest of the world buys European, Japanese, Korean etc, but not American. The US is the odd one out in terms of both buying and selling. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 19, 2019 16:26:10 GMT
A lot of good European cars have historically sold poorly in the US - it doesn't make them bad cars, just not suited to that market. The point being that the rest of the world buys European, Japanese, Korean etc, but not American. The US is the odd one out in terms of both buying and selling. Tesla? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 16:29:29 GMT
A very good point. They'll buy cars from Paypal but not from a mainstream US car manufacturer, which was sort of where I started!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 19, 2019 16:40:01 GMT
A very good point. They'll buy cars from Paypal but not from a mainstream US car manufacturer, which was sort of where I started! Well....being pedantic, Europeans, Asians, Aussies etc have always bought US cars in huge numbers but historically, the US home market has been so huge that it has allowed their manufacturers to design and build cars that are solely tailored for that market, while building cars in other markets, tailored for them. Think global, build local. Traditionally that hasn't been the case with European or Japanese manufacturers, although with BMW, Audi, VW, Toyota etc factories in the US and China building cars for those markets we're seeing a similar situation where we no longer find those vehicles appealing to us or suitable for our market. |
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Post by Ben on Nov 19, 2019 17:52:40 GMT
Well it's only this current generation that's been sold worldwide, as all previous versions were (officially) US only. But lots of people have seen and are aware of the Mustang through movies, TV shows and etc. Does that matter? Lots of American cars are known outisde the home market, but at least as far as Europe is concerned they sell rather less well than used toilet roll. Availability is one issue. Suitability another. It's easy to see why a car like the Mustang doesn't fit in European or Asian cities. That doesn't diminish its popularity in terms of recognition. It's a car people like to see, but not necessarily own outside of America. |
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Post by PG on Nov 19, 2019 19:56:10 GMT
People's reaction to a Mustang EV is little different to that when Porsche launched an SUV. It was the end, sacrilege, brand death. It actually turned out to be rather successful for Porsche. And as said above, AMG are now banging out 4-pot hybrids.
Ford is a global brand with a reputation for cheap cars. So trying to sell a £50k EV was always going to be an uphill struggle for them as Ford. Same reason why the first VAG EV was an Audi and not a SEAT or Skoda. Ford have just made a successful model into a brand to accommodate that. At least they didn't make it a model of that hugely successful brand Vignale......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 9:04:37 GMT
A very good point. They'll buy cars from Paypal but not from a mainstream US car manufacturer, which was sort of where I started! Well....being pedantic, Europeans, Asians, Aussies etc have always bought US cars in huge numbers but historically, the US home market has been so huge that it has allowed their manufacturers to design and build cars that are solely tailored for that market, while building cars in other markets, tailored for them. Think global, build local. Traditionally that hasn't been the case with European or Japanese manufacturers, although with BMW, Audi, VW, Toyota etc factories in the US and China building cars for those markets we're seeing a similar situation where we no longer find those vehicles appealing to us or suitable for our market. Are you meaning the traditional British Ford, Vauxhall etc? Firms with US parents, but cars largely made for, designed and built in Europe (as far as I am aware, I hasten to add)? We've never gone a bundle on what they've made available from their home-grown flock. My folks had a Voyager once - fucking awful thing bought without consultation! |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 21, 2019 8:32:06 GMT
My only other concern is how the crowds outside a car show are going to know a Mustang is going to crash into them if they can't hear it coming?  |
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Post by ChrisM on Nov 23, 2019 22:00:52 GMT
Ken looks older than I thought he'd look
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Post by Blarno on Nov 24, 2019 14:37:45 GMT
Ken Block is near 50, but dresses like a 20 year old skateboarder. He has, however, given us the perfect indication of whether or not a car is owned by a complete helmet: The Hoonigan sticker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 15:52:27 GMT
I would pay more attention if the car was the topic rather than self promotion.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 1, 2019 9:34:13 GMT
Ken Block drives electric car on a track in limited conditions. It doesn't really tell us a huge amount, other than there's no V8 sound.
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