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Post by racingteatray on Jul 29, 2019 14:56:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 15:27:02 GMT
Shooting-brake.  It's an estate car. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 15:28:44 GMT
Shooting-brake. It's an estate car. It's a Touring |
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Post by Martin on Jul 29, 2019 15:34:53 GMT
Shooting-brake. It's an estate car. It's a Touring Definitely an estate. Isn't a shooting brake a 3 door estate? Whatever, I don't like Avant/Touring etc....they're all estate cars. Back to this one, it looks OK from some angles and you can't fault the performance or the effort they've put into the engine, but the A/CLA/CLS are very droopy looking at the front and the sloping/droopy back end looks very strange. |
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Post by johnc on Jul 29, 2019 16:08:41 GMT
I have to say that the more I see of the new A Class the more I like it and I think this has a very attractive and taught rear end!
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Post by Blarno on Jul 29, 2019 16:11:20 GMT
I was wondering how long it would be before the hot hatch pushed past 400 bhp: 2.1 bar is a lot of boost pressure.
It does nothing for me. It's too small to be a decent estate car and the farty exhaust nonsense is an irrational hatred of mine.
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 29, 2019 19:52:56 GMT
Shooting-brake. It's an estate car. It's a Touring It's a terrapin. Looks like the rear has melted in the heat....... |
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Post by chipbutty on Jul 29, 2019 20:00:15 GMT
I really do like the latest Mercs, even these smaller ones.
Whilst BMW seemingly do their utmost to completely ruin any remaining shred of a reputation for making classy, handsome designs and Audi continue to sculpt their SUVs with an industrial turd polisher - it’s Mercedes who are showing them how it’s done.
Model for model, it’s the Merc that's the looker in it’s class
All IMHO of course
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 29, 2019 20:23:18 GMT
IMHO it's Jaguar that's the looker in every class in which they compete. Nobody does "style" quite like Jag
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 22:32:30 GMT
Definitely an estate. Isn't a shooting brake a 3 door estate?  |
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Post by Tim on Jul 30, 2019 9:36:46 GMT
I have to say that the more I see of the new A Class the more I like it and I think this has a very attractive and taught rear end! I always think the rear of the newest A Class hatch looks like a previous shape Astra's. The shooting break looks ok although the shiny bits at the side of the tailgate jar with the matt paint. It's certainly less fussy than anything BMW are doing at the moment. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 30, 2019 10:16:39 GMT
I have to say that the more I see of the new A Class the more I like it and I think this has a very attractive and taught rear end! I always think the rear of the newest A Class hatch looks like a previous shape Astra's. The shooting break looks ok although the shiny bits at the side of the tailgate jar with the matt paint. It's certainly less fussy than anything BMW are doing at the moment. Really? the lower front end and rear end are particularly ghastly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 10:43:29 GMT
I was wondering how long it would be before the hot hatch pushed past 400 bhp: 2.1 bar is a lot of boost pressure. It does nothing for me. It's too small to be a decent estate car and the farty exhaust nonsense is an irrational hatred of mine. Yep. I think we are past peak appeal for the IC engine now, with increasing efficiency and outputs but considerably less want. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 30, 2019 13:04:25 GMT
IMHO it's Jaguar that's the looker in every class in which they compete. Nobody does "style" quite like Jag Not convinced that's still the case re being the looker in each class.
The F-Type is gorgeous but hopelessly packaged rendering it slightly less practical than a chocolate teapot. The F-Pace looks great as an SVR but tippy-toed and odd in other guises. The E-Pace looks like an inflated Fiesta. The I-Pace is a decent effort and distinctive but very odd from some angles The XF is smart in its various R trims, but less of a looker than its predecessor. The XE is very bland The XJ is a good design in the sense that it still doesn't look dated, but I personally hate the piggy little eyes at the front and the rear lights.
However, having thought about it, I agree they are all relatively stylish. Not sure if that isn't just because there are fewer of them about making them less ubiquitous than the German alternatives.
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Post by PG on Jul 30, 2019 13:40:31 GMT
IMHO it's Jaguar that's the looker in every class in which they compete. Nobody does "style" quite like Jag Not convinced that's still the case re being the looker in each class.
The F-Type is gorgeous but hopelessly packaged rendering it slightly less practical than a chocolate teapot. The F-Pace looks great as an SVR but tippy-toed and odd in other guises. The E-Pace looks like an inflated Fiesta. The I-Pace is a decent effort and distinctive but very odd from some angles The XF is smart in its various R trims, but less of a looker than its predecessor. The XE is very bland The XJ is a good design in the sense that it still doesn't look dated, but I personally hate the piggy little eyes at the front and the rear lights.
However, having thought about it, I agree they are all relatively stylish. Not sure if that isn't just because there are fewer of them about making them less ubiquitous than the German alternatives.
I think the reason they are stylish is that they do not have needless and crappy detailing added on left, right and centre. The shape is pleasing of itself (although I can see what you mean about the E-Pace in lesser trims). That's where BMW, Audi and Merc for me go wrong - all you really notice are the details and surface shapes added on - the gaping mouth; the chrome; the over-sized grill; the panel with three creases and different surfaces; the rear valance with mysterious knooks and crannies. The details should complement a car, not become the car's main style devices. This AMG looks great from the back. But it looks like it has melted at the front and back if seen side on or particularly from the rear three-quarters. This is great -  This is not -  |
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Post by racingteatray on Jul 30, 2019 13:42:18 GMT
Agreed
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Post by Martin on Jul 30, 2019 13:48:34 GMT
Agree with PG on the 2 x CLA pictures, the second angle is why I said it looks droopy.
Jags are nearly cars in the main. I like the lack of fussy detailing, but the rear ends of the saloons and estates look stretched, it's like someone designed the car then realised they couldn't get enough golf clubs in so had to stretch the boot a but.
I don't like the E-Pace or I-Pace all that much, especially in low spec.
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Post by Tim on Jul 30, 2019 13:55:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 11:47:13 GMT
These 45s seem to be getting good reviews and if this is how the engines are assembled you can see why they cost so much.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 6, 2019 12:03:09 GMT
^ I think I'd be having a word with him and telling him to pick up the pace a bit, there will be cars coming off the line without engines at that rate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 13:26:38 GMT
Looks like a dull place to work. No Heart FM or titty calendars anywhere.
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Post by Blarno on Aug 6, 2019 15:44:06 GMT
Looks like a dull place to work. No Heart FM or titty calendars anywhere.
We're not allowed a radio because, and I quote:
"We're not a backstreet garage"
Hence why you will find most of us with headphones on.
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Post by Martin on Aug 6, 2019 16:10:44 GMT
Looks like a dull place to work. No Heart FM or titty calendars anywhere.
We're not allowed a radio because, and I quote:
"We're not a backstreet garage"
Hence why you will find most of us with headphones on.
Have BAC just got a new or second workshop? Nothing wrong with having the radio on I’m a factory / warehouse environment, I allow it in mine. No dodgy calendars though! |
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 6, 2019 19:21:28 GMT
Why do so many people find it necessary to listen to music almost all the time? Planes, trains, working in factories...... beats me.
I'm usually the only one on a plane or train looking out of the window "enjoying" the ride. There are some who read, including me sometimes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 19:38:44 GMT
The rants thread is over there...
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 6, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
Not a rant, genuine puzzlement (if there is such a word)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 21:12:02 GMT
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Post by Blarno on Aug 7, 2019 7:27:34 GMT
We're not allowed a radio because, and I quote:
"We're not a backstreet garage"
Hence why you will find most of us with headphones on.
Have BAC just got a new or second workshop? Nothing wrong with having the radio on I’m a factory / warehouse environment, I allow it in mine. No dodgy calendars though! Yes, we have the unit next door to our current building. It's going to be a service and R&D centre. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Aug 7, 2019 7:55:49 GMT
Working in a factory without any music can be quite soul destroying.
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Post by Blarno on Aug 7, 2019 10:24:32 GMT
It is. I have to work with music where possible.
Fixing the car? Tunes are on.
Cooking tea? Tunes are one.
Working in the garden? Tunes are on.
Music is absolutely vital to my ongoing sanity.
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It's an estate car.
