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Post by ChrisM on May 8, 2017 10:59:59 GMT
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Post by johnc on May 8, 2017 11:18:44 GMT
They should lock these scum up forever or re-introduce the death penalty - they totally destroy lives. However if it wasn't for the greed of someone wanting something for much less than it is worth they wouldn't have a market.
I can understand the Police treating this as a low priority crime but the reality is that it could have turned very nasty for those who turned up to buy the car if they had second thoughts and the criminals knew they had the cash with them and for that reason alone, they should go after them big style. |
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Post by Big Blue on May 8, 2017 13:13:36 GMT
Yeah it's not like you can't get any number of deals from a BMW dealer, new or used. I'm increasingly disappointed by eBay's reluctance to assess account holders in any way shape or form, preferring instead their mantra that they are just an open space for people to trade. |
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Post by LandieMark on May 8, 2017 13:25:03 GMT
eBay is becoming an increasingly irritating place to buy or sell from. I love the way they say you should complete the purchase using their system. What they don't say there is that it excludes vehicles. Their selling fees are becoming exorbitant too. They take their percentage on what you charge for postage which is a bloody cheek.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 14:46:02 GMT
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Post by alf on May 8, 2017 15:17:22 GMT
I saw this - indeed my brother in law was scammed attempting to buy a van a year or so ago in a similar way. Personally I'd stick to traditional methods for buying cars, especially when you are talking well over £10k.
It makes dealers look more attractive - but the FCA is looking into them at the moment, we probably all know their financial offers can be abysmal, but for some reason a lot of people just take them rather than going to market for better offers, which is being seen as a bit of a scandal...
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Post by grampa on May 8, 2017 15:38:31 GMT
Am I missing something here? Surely the scam is the cloning bit and nothing specifically associated to eBay - this scam would still work if the car was advertised in the local paper, Autotrader or anywhere else?
On a car that new, I'd be looking for the original invoice/receipt, the service book etc - those things might go missing for an old banger but should be present with a newish car.
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Post by Roadsterstu on May 9, 2017 8:59:10 GMT
Yep, I thought the same. And paying cash on collection. |
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Post by Big Blue on May 9, 2017 9:00:42 GMT
I must say, who here is comfortable handing over, say, £20k in cash to a private seller? I transferred the funds to a BMW dealer I had actually visited to buy the Gorilla and die Schreibmaschine before that. Not sure I'd do that with a private seller unless I'd seen their house, their license with that address on it etc etc. and still only a transfer.
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Post by grampa on May 9, 2017 9:17:11 GMT
What's not mentioned in the article is the registration document? - was there a false one present? and if you cloned a car can you access all the details that would be needed to make sure the car and a false registration document checked out on an HPI check? and even then what about the address on the documentation matching the address where you're viewing the car? (Bury v Rochdale in this case).
It's hard to see how this scam passes even rudimentary checks, unless they're hiding a lot of info for fear of it instructing other criminals on what they need to do - or are people just blinded by the idea of getting a bargain?
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