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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 12:48:36 GMT
Well I am on the lookout for new carbs, those I acquired from t3 detectives are apparently not up to the task and well, I reckon new will be better for the long term.
I have searched on the interweb and the amount of complete nonsense is overwhelming, I search for the official 'Zenith' carbs and I get Webber results and if I search for type 3 carbs I get injection conversions that look like they are more trouble than they are worth and cost the whole planet.
Can anyone give a little advice I can comprehend please? I know the Webbers will not fit because the load bay floor is far too low. My sisters ex has a fastback they fit fine in but no rear floor to worry about.
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Post by johnc on Apr 29, 2019 7:36:11 GMT
I thought the carbs for that engine were Solex, not Zenith.
Injector bodies are great and provide much better fuelling but as you have pointed out they cost a fortune and need to be set up by a guy with a laptop.
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 29, 2019 8:02:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:22:48 GMT
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Post by johnc on Apr 30, 2019 18:17:22 GMT
That looks very good value |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 18:37:02 GMT
I just hope the replacement filters do not cost a grand each or something daft like that.
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Post by scouse on May 1, 2019 9:06:41 GMT
I just hope the replacement filters do not cost a grand each or something daft like that. Quick look on web says between £15-30 each |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 9:11:35 GMT
I have to learn how to use emotithings.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 13:43:10 GMT
Bugger. Apparently the carb kit requires 23 to 24cm to clear the load floor and I have 19cm.
Looking to see if a remote fit air filter or the oil bath filter will cut the mustard but gutted.
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Post by bryan on May 1, 2019 14:38:19 GMT
That's annoying, hopefully your mod will work
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Post by chocy on May 1, 2019 15:18:13 GMT
What space are you left with after the carbs are fitted?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 15:46:18 GMT
With my current carbs, the original Solex (Taken over by Zenith who were taken over by etc etc) between the top og th oil bath air filter there is about 1 to 1.5cm clearance but that is the engine cover which is concave on that surface. Another place to talk to tomorrow suggested by Eurocarbs who I find very helpful in the extreme. Also talking to Weber UK tomorrow so I have a few avenue's to go down yet a while.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 17:25:42 GMT
From Beetlelink, it should fit Bess after all.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 10:48:09 GMT
.....who intermittently talked the job up and down doing a good impersonation of a sodding yoyo. Quite keen for me to drop the car down there there but I have got bad vibes. Power the fuel pump with a drill motor, refurb is the cheaper option but then again it is as expensive as new carbs. et al. I get the impression that they think they see a quick earner from a mug. Thanks.
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Post by LandieMark on May 2, 2019 12:18:53 GMT
I would be more inclined to think that they don't want to diagnose something over the phone without actually diagnosing it thenselseves and leaving themselves open to criticism.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 13:32:06 GMT
I get your meaning but would be happier if they stuck to the same story. I am not daft enough to think anything on an old motor like mine would be exactly this or that price etc. Talking to Weber to see if they have another trick up the sleeve or direction of attack. After that it will be going to VW heritage for some parts/refurb kit and then carb hospital with a proper id number.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 21:46:18 GMT
The thing I did not mention but is a dodgy sounding 'item' is the guy was wanting to replace the fuel pump with a drill motor which is a dodgy sounding 'trick' to up fuel flow/pump pressure.
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Post by johnc on May 3, 2019 9:24:03 GMT
The thing I did not mention but is a dodgy sounding 'item' is the guy was wanting to replace the fuel pump with a drill motor which is a dodgy sounding 'trick' to up fuel flow/pump pressure. On the old air cooled engines the fuel pump is a mechanical pump driven off the engine and also not known for its great fuel pressure. An electric fuel pump or an upgraded mechanical one, linked to a fuel king filter/pressure regulator is a much better solution especially when you have twin carbs. We used to run that setup on the race cars and the fuel king allowed us to fine tune the fuel flow to ensure the carbs got just the right amount of petrol. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 10:41:08 GMT
Yep, got that already and Weber do such a pump that does not need a regulator. I have a problem with the suggested fix being a drill motor. He also stated that the car involved experienced an engine fire while setting the system up (Also in a squareback) which does not give me the confidence I would want. Also, what would I tell the insurance company? I doubt the current owner of the last project has told his insurance there is a drill motor running the fuel pump. Any claim would be denied instantly when they found out.
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Post by LandieMark on May 3, 2019 18:18:46 GMT
The Series III has a facet type fuel pump with integral filter and post pump filter. This can produce about 5-7psi which is enough for the big carb setup.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 15:37:27 GMT
Oh well, did the deed this afternoon, kit and pump for just over £500 which I think is as good as it was going to get. VW heritage wanted another ton on top of that so not actually that bothered. Might even have a rolling road to install and set the things up with some fingers crossed. A lot in one hit but it needed doing.
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Post by chocy on May 10, 2019 11:16:41 GMT
If it allows you to enjoy the car as you would like, then it's a bargain.
I'd imagine that it's the kind of job that will only ever need done once, so on a car, that you obviously love, it's a worthwhile expense.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 11:23:56 GMT
Cue arrival of said parts, well, some of them. Not impressed but Eurocarb have taken it seriously, not wrapped well and it looked like a chimp with a hangover had put it together.
The whole kit is going back which means I have to go and get some more brown tape to wrap it back up again for return. Not what anyone wants but life goes on and hopefully upwards too. Ding ding, round whatever.
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Post by ChrisM on May 10, 2019 12:42:04 GMT
OMG, was really hoping that you were going to get this sorted, what a pity that you have been messed around with once again
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 17:07:02 GMT
TBH, it's not that big of a deal but I will be glad when this is done.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 11:12:51 GMT
Oh well, I have the fuel pump......
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 15:10:03 GMT
Most of what I need arrived yesterday with the rest today. I did inform the VW heritage people how much extra they were charging and they have dropped the price by quite a bit, almost competitive with the rest now.
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Post by chocy on May 15, 2019 11:23:54 GMT
Stick at it pal. I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 12:12:13 GMT
Got all the bits now so off to talk to the rolling road bloke face to face as he never answers his phone. Apparently he works on just about anything including TVR's etc.
Rather ashamed to admit my bodge skills have atrophied somewhat. I put a bleepin' rubber band over the linkage and the response was improved right away. Not permanent but it will do for the short term.
Very much looking forward to taking Bess out for a proper run.
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Post by LandieMark on May 15, 2019 18:46:25 GMT
Got all the bits now so off to talk to the rolling road bloke face to face as he never answers his phone. Apparently he works on just about anything including TVR's etc. Rather ashamed to admit my bodge skills have atrophied somewhat. I put a bleepin' rubber band over the linkage and the response was improved right away. Not permanent but it will do for the short term. Very much looking forward to taking Bess out for a proper run. If the rolling road guy is Jools at Kits and Classics, you are in great hands. I really want him to install an Emerald Ecu to do away with the distributor. |
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