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Post by racingteatray on Apr 3, 2019 12:44:27 GMT
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Post by Martin on Apr 3, 2019 13:03:16 GMT
Yes, it’s smaller externally but will probably be similar in size inside due to it being electric only.
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Post by Tim on Apr 3, 2019 14:09:52 GMT
...... but will probably be similar in size inside due to it being electric only. Yet last week's Autocar compared the new 3 series with the same-size Tesla Model 3 and concluded the Tesla is short on space. |
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 3, 2019 18:57:26 GMT
...... but will probably be similar in size inside due to it being electric only. Yet last week's Autocar compared the new 3 series with the same-size Tesla Model 3 and concluded the Tesla is short on space. I know I'm probably "behind the curve" when it comes to Autocar's wee foibles, but if they've retained the same Germanic bias they had when I read it most weeks, that was alway going to be one of their outcomes. |
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Post by johnc on Apr 3, 2019 19:20:37 GMT
Perhaps the acceleration of the move to all electric is happening faster than we think. Could Porsche possibly end the production of petrol powered Panameras when this model reaches the end of its cycle, replacing it completely with the Taycan?
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Post by michael on Apr 4, 2019 9:39:06 GMT
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Post by johnc on Apr 4, 2019 13:19:40 GMT
I think it is fair to say that there are a million permutations of what might and what will happen. Maybe the Germans will discount their cars even further for the UK market. Maybe they will put prices up and allow hundreds of UK dealerships to go bust with the loss of thousands of jobs, as they return to one or two dealership in each major city and become a rare sight again. No-one knows but I doubt anyone has predicted the full outcome correctly. |
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Post by michael on Apr 4, 2019 13:25:20 GMT
I think the one thing we can safely assume is that under no circumstances whatsoever will there be Morgans or TVRs in the volumes we see of Porsche - let alone Audi.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 4, 2019 14:01:23 GMT
That article is more than slightly barking. He makes some valid points but they are easy to lose amidst the hyperbole and excruciating prose.
Of course EU business suffers economically from a no-deal Brexit. But he makes the classic error of thinking that the EU's primary concerns are economic. They aren't - they are political. As, at the end of the day, are the UK's.
Most UK business will suffer as a result of a no-deal Brexit but that doesn't stop Brexit-minded English politicians advancing their deluded nationalist agenda. It is therefore hypocritical of them to demand that EU politicians put the interests of EU business ahead of EU politics.
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Post by michael on Apr 4, 2019 14:56:21 GMT
That article is more than slightly barking.
You do realise that's why I posted it I hope! |
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 4, 2019 16:22:47 GMT
That article is more than slightly barking.
You do realise that's why I posted it I hope! Yes - fear not!
Woe!
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Post by Martin on Apr 4, 2019 16:27:23 GMT
Andrew Frankel has had a ride in one. In summary, it feels 911 Turbo fast, it’s the easiest Porsche to drift and the space in the rear is far more limited than in the Panamera but it feels more 911 like in the front (deliberately snug)
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Post by PG on Apr 4, 2019 16:42:40 GMT
Autocar said that the next Macan will be EV only. And then the following week said that Porsche would still make the old Macan as well for ICE lovers. So maybe that is what will happen with the Taycan Sport Turismo thingy / Panamera as well. After all, current views are that pure EV will only be 35% of the market by 2025 (or was it 2035?) or something like that. The rest will be ICE hybrid derived. So nobody is going to want to walk away from that 65% of the market.
And it appears that developing a chassis that can be ICE / hybrid / EV and be efficient at all three is pretty hard (with current battery technology). So maybe more people will end up with dual ranges running side by side for a number of years.
Unless of course hydrogen muscles in stage left. In which case who knows what will be what.
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