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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 10, 2019 11:00:04 GMT
Step daughter has bought her first car and we collected it yesterday. She and her mum went to look last week, whilst I was at work and chose, paying a deposit. I was somewhat nervous of this, having been left to try and answer a load of questions that I couldn't properly answer without seeing the car, whilst trying to work. Anyway, the questions I did have were addressed during a phone call to the dealer a couple of days later. The car has come from a small indy near to where we live who specialises in the 107/C1/Aygo trio. His small unit is crammed full of them and he says he sells about 30 a month. Collected, with much excitement and, I have to say, it's exactly what a first car should be. It's pretty tidy but has that "patina" of wear and tear. It's likely to get the odd knock and scratch so really no point in having anything absolutely pristine just yet and it really should be about as cheap to run as cars get. Petrol 1.0 12v (3 cyl) Urban model. 2007 57 plate, 2 owners, full stamped service history, mostly at Peugeot dealers, 12 months MOT with no advisories, had a new exhaust last summer and has 4 tyres with plenty of tread. It even had half a tank of petrol in it. 20 quid a year tax. It was up at 2250 and she got him to knock a 100 quid off. I had a drive yesterday and it drives OK. Thrummy 3 cylinder gathers pace rather than accelerates (60bhp I think), despite it's tiny size it actually feels airy and roomy up front. Anyone who has driven one of these will know they are built down to a price, with some rather Tupperware-like plastics inside. There's not a great amount of feedback through the steering - hardly any, in fact, but it rides nicely. The 155/65 14 tyres have levels of grip reminiscent of my old C reg Nova Merit but at least tyres will be cheap! The stereo is abysmal but some better speakers will improve that slightly. No a/c on this model but the heater is decent. Power steering, ABS, remote locking, driver, passenger and side airbags, electric windows (although no control for the passenger window from the driver's side) and manual mirrors. Instrumentation consists of a speedometer and a bar graph fuel guage. Only issues at the moment are the driver's window not always closing properly unless it gets a helping nudge back into it's runner and some water ingress into the boot, which is likely to be the seals on either rear lights and/or high level brake light. A quick look on YouTube shows how easy this is to remedy and an hour of my time one evening this week will sort it. The engine is, I believe, one of Toyota's contributions and is a chain-driven 3 pot, in this one nicely serviced and running well. Insurance is about 945 all in, in her name, for a decent fully comp 10-month bonus accelerator policy. It's a bit more as we wanted to avoid a telematics spy in the car policy. She's 22, only passed her test in mid-December and has no NCB. All in all, one happy young lady, a couple of slightly worried parents whenever she goes out and another car to find room on the drive for (and to wash!)  |
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Post by michael on Feb 10, 2019 11:18:58 GMT
I was wondering the other day how long it’ll be before the little Vauxhall (viva?) is also a rebadged one of these.
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Post by Martin on Feb 10, 2019 12:33:49 GMT
Good little car and as you say, ideal for a first one. My parents bought a pre reg black 5dr a few years back as their first foray into city cars and liked it. Definitely built down to a price, but you know that when you buy one. It was replaced with an Up, which looks and feels like a much higher quality machine, but the price reflects that.
If you have to wash it, you should have insisted on a different colour!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 10, 2019 13:03:40 GMT
We sometimes hire an Aygo on holiday for bimbling about in. They're decent little cars and you always get the feeling that while the rest of the car might fall to bits over the years, the engine and gearbox will keep going whatever.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 10, 2019 13:17:46 GMT
Good little car and as you say, ideal for a first one. My parents bought a pre reg black 5dr a few years back as their first foray into city cars and liked it. Definitely built down to a price, but you know that when you buy one. It was replaced with an Up, which looks and feels like a much higher quality machine, but the price reflects that. If you have to wash it, you should have insisted on a different colour! Yes, I've had black cars before and vowed after each one to never have another! At least it's only small so won't take too long to wash and polish. My parents' Citigo is, as the Up!, light years ahead but that is to be expected. She is made up with it and I came over all 'proud parent' when we got it yesterday. We've put in 1k of the purchase price to help out, she's paying the rest, although we have lent 1900 to start with. I will get her to fill the tank later so I can see how little fuel it uses. |
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Post by Boxer6 on Feb 10, 2019 13:36:14 GMT
Looks just the job for a first car, and if she keeps it clean (and undinged!) will keep looking good too.
Our next door neighbour's lassie passed her test in December, and she's got (not sure how/who's financed it but he's insuring it for her) an '11 plate Ka in Titty spec. Not a mark on it, on the paintwork at least, and she seems to be enjoying it.
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Post by Blarno on Feb 10, 2019 13:38:03 GMT
Belting little cars. We have an 11 plate Aygo and it is bombproof. Ours has 80 bhp, I believe, so is a bit of a flying tiddler
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Post by Martin on Feb 10, 2019 14:40:42 GMT
Belting little cars. We have an 11 plate Aygo and it is bombproof. Ours has 80 bhp, I believe, so is a bit of a flying tiddler There was only one petrol engine which was shared by all variants, it had just under 70hp and the 0-60 time is about 14sec iirc. |
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 10, 2019 16:04:15 GMT
Should be a great first car, one of my elder daughter's friends had one as his first car about 8 years ago.
To me the big mystery is trying to work out what's parked behind it in your photo. It's not your VRS or the Captur......
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Post by PG on Feb 10, 2019 17:15:00 GMT
Great first car. I'm sure she'll really enjoy it.
I bet every time she needs petrol she'll ask you to drive it somewhere... :-)
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Post by bryan on Feb 10, 2019 21:33:02 GMT
There was a 1.2 with 82bhp mainly on pugeots I think
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Post by Martin on Feb 10, 2019 23:24:52 GMT
There was a 1.2 with 82bhp mainly on pugeots I think All the 107s on Autotrader are the 1.0? |
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Post by bryan on Feb 11, 2019 6:36:41 GMT
There was a 1.2 with 82bhp mainly on pugeots I think All the 107s on Autotrader are the 1.0? My bad, I hadn't realised the update changed to 108...they have 1.2s |
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Post by Martin on Feb 11, 2019 6:39:55 GMT
My bad for knowing it....it’s only because my parents had one, wouldn’t normally be of any interest!
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Post by grampa on Feb 11, 2019 12:26:00 GMT
Looks a nice car for 11 years old. Had two neices and daughter's friend who between them have had all three badge variants (each one in black as it happens) and all very pleased with them as a first car (two have moved on to other things now) - one of them has even proved ditch proof!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 11, 2019 23:17:31 GMT
Should be a great first car, one of my elder daughter's friends had one as his first car about 8 years ago. To me the big mystery is trying to work out what's parked behind it in your photo. It's not your VRS or the Captur...... It's her boyfriend's current shape Astra. We have now run out of driveway space unless we really cram them in, in launch order for the next morning - we can just get 4 on there. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 12, 2019 11:16:19 GMT
A mate has an Aygo of a similar vintage and I'm always amazed by how roomy it is. He tends to be the designated driver when we go on the piss and can get 5 portly blokes in it.
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Post by Alex on Feb 12, 2019 12:33:22 GMT
Good little car Stu. It’ll never set the world alight but as a first car it doesn’t need to, it just needs to provide cheap and simple no frills transport, which is what the 107/C1/Argo do rather well.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 12, 2019 12:56:23 GMT
I feel like I'm in Mario Cart when I'm driving one - I keep hoping it'll fire bananas out the exhaust.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 13, 2019 13:57:42 GMT
A mate has an Aygo of a similar vintage and I'm always amazed by how roomy it is. He tends to be the designated driver when we go on the piss and can get 5 portly blokes in it. I need to see a photo of this! |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 13, 2019 13:59:35 GMT
Went out in it last night, including 2 short motorway stints. The ride quality is very impressive for such a short car. Really quite comfy. Headlights are good, too.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 13, 2019 15:17:16 GMT
A mate has an Aygo of a similar vintage and I'm always amazed by how roomy it is. He tends to be the designated driver when we go on the piss and can get 5 portly blokes in it. I need to see a photo of this! Don't send it Ed - he'll use as evidence the car was exceeding its gross weight!  |
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Post by PetrolEd on Feb 13, 2019 16:59:31 GMT
I need to see a photo of this! Don't send it Ed - he'll use as evidence the car was exceeding its gross weight! Guilty as charged. |
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Post by chocy on Feb 13, 2019 19:03:05 GMT
I need to see a photo of this! Don't send it Ed - he'll use as evidence the car was exceeding its gross weight! Worse than that, I thought they were only 4 seater vehicles! I might well have got that wrong. I am really seeing the appeal of small cars, I so rarely get above 30 mph, that motorway cruising is not a concern. I hope your daughter enjoys her new freedom. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 16, 2019 9:45:41 GMT
She really is enjoying it. So much so that she offered to collect her brother from the after school club. And drove there. You can see the school gates from our drive FFS!
She's on holiday next week, so I will fettle a couple of little things - the leak into the boot, bit of paint "correction" and new wiper blades.
One thing I have noticed is how she has had to adapt to a car with manual handbrake, rather than the electric brake and hill hold of her instructor's car. And it seems rather easier to stall than a new diesel Fiesta!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 16, 2019 12:31:40 GMT
Nope, you're correct, I've just been out to check and there's no centre lap belt. Nor is there room for a central seat. Frankly I'm amazed at 5, admittedly slim, blokes fitting in there. It must have been like ine of those how many people in a Mini world record attempts! |
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Post by bryan on Feb 16, 2019 20:49:45 GMT
5 blokes would be distinctly chummy....bit like when I was 4 up in the TT!!
Glad she is enjoying it!
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Post by Roadsterstu on May 3, 2019 13:12:54 GMT
Lucy the 107 is sadly no more. Got a phone call every parent dreads, this morning, that Heidi had been in an accident on the way to work. I set off and arrived whilst the ambulance was still there. Initially there were concerns over possible spinal and leg injuries but thanfully an assessment at hospital ruled out anything other than bruising to the legs.
She was mid-bend on a NSL road, 2 minutes from work, when a car coming the other way caught her off guard, she thought it was going to cross the white line (it didn't), so she panic braked, which caused the back end to let go and she couldn't catch the resulting skid. She spun twice before hitting a tree, thankfully rear end first. The car is badly damaged at the back but generally held up well. It could have been much worse - nothing else coming and trees don't have any give, of course. I doubt she was going too fast but rather suspect it was a case of inexperience, lack of anticipation and a very wet road surface. Now we have the fun of seeing what the insurance company do and having to find another car, which will probably be another 107/C1/Aygo.
We are extremely relieved it wasn't worse.
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Post by Martin on May 3, 2019 13:34:10 GMT
Really pleased to hear she's OK Stu.
As you say, could have been worse, one of the benefits of getting something a bit more modern
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 15:03:46 GMT
Good news she is OK, the rest is a pain but nowhere in the scheme of things. Fingers crossed for the insurance folk to do a decent job and get her sorted.
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