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335d
Dec 17, 2018 13:55:31 GMT
Post by franki68 on Dec 17, 2018 13:55:31 GMT
Since I bought the car I have had the engine check light come and go,inevitably when I took it into BMW to look at ,it had magically gone.Quite infuriating,anyway a few weeks back I get a low coolant level warning,which is odd as in the 33 years I have been driving I have never had one before.I topped up the coolant and it has not re-appeared.
Anyway today I get a recall letter to do with the exhaust gas recirculation module ,stating that if I have experienced a low coolant level warning light or the engine check light (amongst other symptoms) to call their emergency recovery line.
3 times the car has gone in over the check light ,and when they plug into the obc they see nothing .
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335d
Dec 17, 2018 15:36:56 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Dec 17, 2018 15:36:56 GMT
So, have you called the emergency number and what did they suggest they would do?
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335d
Dec 17, 2018 15:55:43 GMT
Post by johnc on Dec 17, 2018 15:55:43 GMT
I got the recall notice at the weekend as well and since my car is booked in on Wednesday for its brake fluid change, I phoned this morning to see if they could just do both things at once: apparently not since there is a shortage of EGR coolers and they are awaiting a delivery.
My car may be OK though. I smelt fumes inside the car occasionally so I put it in to the garage about a year ago and they replaced the EGR cooler and the problem was solved. Hopefully a year ago they replaced it with a redesigned one! |
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Dec 18, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
So, have you called the emergency number and what did they suggest they would do? Yes and nothing ,they will call me back but it might be a few days because they are rushed off their feet apparently . |
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 10:41:36 GMT
Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2018 10:41:36 GMT
So its important enough for them to tell you to phone the emergency recovery line yet they aren't prepared for the response.
Great. I'm sure they've had plenty of time to prepare for it and they will know how many cars there are needing work.
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 10:55:25 GMT
Post by PG on Dec 18, 2018 10:55:25 GMT
Since I bought the car I have had the engine check light come and go,inevitably when I took it into BMW to look at ,it had magically gone......3 times the car has gone in over the check light ,and when they plug into the obc they see nothing . I am beginning to think random engine check lights that mean nothing - until they suddenly mean something - is just part of diesel ownership. Both our Shogun and Peugeot Boxer engine check lights come and go as they please and the relevant garage always says "nope, it's fine". |
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 13:20:36 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Dec 18, 2018 13:20:36 GMT
So its important enough for them to tell you to phone the emergency recovery line yet they aren't prepared for the response. Great. I'm sure they've had plenty of time to prepare for it and they will know how many cars there are needing work. Yes ,tell me about it . Still had no call yet either . |
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 15:59:47 GMT
Post by Blarno on Dec 18, 2018 15:59:47 GMT
Since I bought the car I have had the engine check light come and go,inevitably when I took it into BMW to look at ,it had magically gone......3 times the car has gone in over the check light ,and when they plug into the obc they see nothing . I am beginning to think random engine check lights that mean nothing - until they suddenly mean something - is just part of diesel ownership. Both our Shogun and Peugeot Boxer engine check lights come and go as they please and the relevant garage always says "nope, it's fine". Oddly enough, I had an EML come on at random a couple of weeks back. Pulling off the M56 at Daresbury, went to move away from the roundabout at the top and lost all boost and the light came on. I pulled into a car park and plugged my OBD reader in, which traced to a random sensor somewhere on the inlet manifold (I think it was to do with the bloody swirl flaps). I reset it there and then and haven't seen head or tail of it since.
Good job I had the gubbins with me, or it would have been a very slow and frustrating drive home.
What did diesel drivers do before turbos?
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 16:19:23 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 18, 2018 16:19:23 GMT
What did diesel drivers do before turbos?
We traveled everywhere very slowly. |
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335d
Dec 18, 2018 16:58:45 GMT
Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2018 16:58:45 GMT
What did diesel drivers do before turbos?
We traveled everywhere very slowly.
Too many years ago a couple of mates and I hired a Pug 405 diesel to travel to Cadwell Park and Donington for some car racing. The car was a 1994 L reg and had 900 miles on the clock and no turbo. It was awful.
From memory the car was producing 65BHP.
If you switched the aircon on the speed dropped noticeably - I think we got it up to an indicated 90mph somewhere and when the aircon got turned on we lost at least 5mph! Going up the hill on the M90 at Rosyth, just before the Forth Bridge, we had to change down to 4th to keep the speed up.
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335d
Dec 19, 2018 12:33:12 GMT
Post by johnc on Dec 19, 2018 12:33:12 GMT
We traveled everywhere very slowly.
Too many years ago a couple of mates and I hired a Pug 405 diesel to travel to Cadwell Park and Donington for some car racing. The car was a 1994 L reg and had 900 miles on the clock and no turbo. It was awful.
From memory the car was producing 65BHP.
If you switched the aircon on the speed dropped noticeably - I think we got it up to an indicated 90mph somewhere and when the aircon got turned on we lost at least 5mph! Going up the hill on the M90 at Rosyth, just before the Forth Bridge, we had to change down to 4th to keep the speed up.
You had it easy! I used to have a Mk2 Fiesta 1.6D with perhaps 50hp which probably became the fastest cornering car in our district. Maximum momentum, absolute on the limit cornering and you could still pass most things. I found it great for the racing I was embarking on at the time because I was so used to taking every corner on the perfect line at full speed and pre planning was essential. |
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335d
Dec 19, 2018 18:38:57 GMT
Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 19, 2018 18:38:57 GMT
Since I bought the car I have had the engine check light come and go,inevitably when I took it into BMW to look at ,it had magically gone......3 times the car has gone in over the check light ,and when they plug into the obc they see nothing . I am beginning to think random engine check lights that mean nothing - until they suddenly mean something - is just part of diesel ownership. Both our Shogun and Peugeot Boxer engine check lights come and go as they please and the relevant garage always says "nope, it's fine". The problem is that garages plug the car in, nothing shows up and so there must be, in their opinion, nothing wrong obviously. Going through a diagnostic process that doesn't involve just plugging it in seems an alien concept. |
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335d
Dec 20, 2018 8:48:20 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 20, 2018 8:48:20 GMT
Too many years ago a couple of mates and I hired a Pug 405 diesel to travel to Cadwell Park and Donington for some car racing. The car was a 1994 L reg and had 900 miles on the clock and no turbo. It was awful.
From memory the car was producing 65BHP.
If you switched the aircon on the speed dropped noticeably - I think we got it up to an indicated 90mph somewhere and when the aircon got turned on we lost at least 5mph! Going up the hill on the M90 at Rosyth, just before the Forth Bridge, we had to change down to 4th to keep the speed up.
You had it easy! I used to have a Mk2 Fiesta 1.6D with perhaps 50hp which probably became the fastest cornering car in our district. Maximum momentum, absolute on the limit cornering and you could still pass most things. I found it great for the racing I was embarking on at the time because I was so used to taking every corner on the perfect line at full speed and pre planning was essential. In the 80s when our company switched from petrol to diesel for the fleet cars a lot of the reps and engineers transferred over to 1.6D Mk. 3 Escorts. Jesus that was a dog of an engine and calling it "agricultural" would be doing a disservice to tractors. They were universally hated and I only drove one quarter decent one - it had a bit more oomph and seemed to be a bit freer revving. I asked the owner about it and he said from the moment it was dropped off by transporter he'd driven it everywhere on the red line with zero mechanical sympathy - it seemed to have helped to a degree. The luckier ones were the guys who got the new Peugeot 309 with the 65hp XU engine. That was a decent steer and drive but the complaint there was that, as it was based on a 205 platform, it was smaller than their previous Cortinas and Cavaliers. My boss had one of the facelifted 305s and that was pretty decent - rolled a bit on cornering but had big squishy seats and went quite well with its non-turbo diesel engine. Unfortunately, he hated it as it didn't compare in his mind to his Mk2 Cavalier 2.0 GL so he spent every week trying to break it so he could drive back to Fife at the weekend in a hire car (petrol). It really was quite amazing how many times he managed that. |
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Dec 20, 2018 8:58:50 GMT
Post by Martin on Dec 20, 2018 8:58:50 GMT
I used to have to drive a 1.6d Sierra pool car, heavy steering and no power. I had a Cavalier 1.6 at the time and it was better in every way. My first company car was a year old 405 GLD estate, non turbo but wasn’t too horrendous and there was a lot more equipment than I had in the Cavalier (power steering, electric sunroom, remote locking etc). It’s replacement, a 406 LX TD felt a lot better, but the 115hp Passat I had a few years later was the first diesel that felt quick.
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335d
Dec 20, 2018 9:04:30 GMT
Post by Roadrunner on Dec 20, 2018 9:04:30 GMT
You had it easy! I used to have a Mk2 Fiesta 1.6D with perhaps 50hp which probably became the fastest cornering car in our district. Maximum momentum, absolute on the limit cornering and you could still pass most things. I found it great for the racing I was embarking on at the time because I was so used to taking every corner on the perfect line at full speed and pre planning was essential. In the 80s when our company switched from petrol to diesel for the fleet cars a lot of the reps and engineers transferred over to 1.6D Mk. 3 Escorts. Jesus that was a dog of an engine and calling it "agricultural" would be doing a disservice to tractors. They were universally hated and I only drove one quarter decent one - it had a bit more oomph and seemed to be a bit freer revving. I asked the owner about it and he said from the moment it was dropped off by transporter he'd driven it everywhere on the red line with zero mechanical sympathy - it seemed to have helped to a degree. The luckier ones were the guys who got the new Peugeot 309 with the 65hp XU engine. That was a decent steer and drive but the complaint there was that, as it was based on a 205 platform, it was smaller than their previous Cortinas and Cavaliers. My boss had one of the facelifted 305s and that was pretty decent - rolled a bit on cornering but had big squishy seats and went quite well with its non-turbo diesel engine. Unfortunately, he hated it as it didn't compare in his mind to his Mk2 Cavalier 2.0 GL so he spent every week trying to break it so he could drive back to Fife at the weekend in a hire car (petrol). It really was quite amazing how many times he managed that. That is reminiscent of my company Escort Mk IV 1.8 diesel. By a country mile the very worst car I have ever driven and, as you say, more agricultural than a Massey Ferguson. I managed the 'break it and drive home in something else' trick twice. The high speed cornering required to maintain momentum meant that the front tyres barely lasted 10,000 miles, the brakes were hopeless and constantly required work, it had the most uncomfortable seats known to humankind, the gearbox was like stirring a box of bolts, the steering was ludicrously heavy and it held up lorries on hills. |
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Dec 20, 2018 13:45:32 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Dec 20, 2018 13:45:32 GMT
..... there was a lot more equipment than I had in the Cavalier (power steering, electric sunroom, remote locking etc) Some people have all the luck. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a car (or house) with a sunroom. In theory I should be able to afford to retire next year, but I wonder if I ever will be able to..... |
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335d
Dec 20, 2018 14:22:30 GMT
Post by Martin on Dec 20, 2018 14:22:30 GMT
..... there was a lot more equipment than I had in the Cavalier (power steering, electric sunroom, remote locking etc) Some people have all the luck. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a car (or house) with a sunroom. In theory I should be able to afford to retire next year, but I wonder if I ever will be able to..... It was the estate and it had large windows, nothing more fancy than that. |
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Dec 20, 2018 17:10:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 17:10:08 GMT
I used to have to drive a 1.6d Sierra pool car, heavy steering and no power... Are you sure it was a 1.6? I thought the older Sierra diesel was the crappy 2.3 (Peugeot) unit, later ones were 1.8s. (Still awful) An ex colleague of mine has a 1.6D Escort and used to conscientiously drive it everywhere at 56mph as the handbook showed this to be most economical speed! |
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335d
Dec 20, 2018 18:42:06 GMT
Post by Martin on Dec 20, 2018 18:42:06 GMT
I used to have to drive a 1.6d Sierra pool car, heavy steering and no power... Are you sure it was a 1.6? I thought the older Sierra diesel was the crappy 2.3 (Peugeot) unit, later ones were 1.8s. (Still awful) An ex colleague of mine has a 1.6D Escort and used to conscientiously drive it everywhere at 56mph as the handbook showed this to be most economical speed! No. Just remembered it was the 1.6 petrol! |
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335d
Jan 30, 2019 14:34:37 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Jan 30, 2019 14:34:37 GMT
Well after being picked up on Xmas eve,I finally got my car back today.
Why issue a recall when they gave no parts to fulfill the recall ?
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335d
Jan 30, 2019 15:10:09 GMT
Post by johnc on Jan 30, 2019 15:10:09 GMT
Well after being picked up on Xmas eve,I finally got my car back today. Why issue a recall when they gave no parts to fulfill the recall ? That's a real poor show. Did they give you a car whilst yours was in? |
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335d
Jan 30, 2019 16:04:38 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Jan 30, 2019 16:04:38 GMT
Yes a very very well specced merc c200 (they had no cars of their own so they used a rental company)
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335d
Jan 30, 2019 16:59:23 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jan 30, 2019 16:59:23 GMT
Do you miss the Merc?
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335d
Jan 30, 2019 22:31:03 GMT
Post by Roadsterstu on Jan 30, 2019 22:31:03 GMT
More to the point, did you miss the BMW?
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335d
Jan 31, 2019 8:08:23 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Jan 31, 2019 8:08:23 GMT
Interesting question .The Merc was very nice to waft around in,but the bmw is a better drive.With the current weather it’s hard to ignore the advantage of 4wd the bmw has.Maybe if the merc had comparable engine and 4wd it might be the preferable car.
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