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Post by PG on Sept 27, 2018 13:10:03 GMT
New BMW X5 has come out. All very much as expected - it's bigger, even wider, more economical etc etc. But there was one photo in the Autocar gallery that almost made me spit out my lunch - this one:  Whatever travesties BMW may or may not have carried out before this, I was always heartened to see two nice big round dials in front of the driver plus other ancillary dials. Proper instrumentation. I feared the worst when I saw the images of the inside of the new Z4 and this seems to confirm it. BMW have gone pointlessly overstyled when it comes to the tacho and speedo. Oh dear...... |
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 27, 2018 13:30:52 GMT
I think these black panels need to allow for round dials when you need them (a lap of the 'Ring?) and anything but when you're on the Autoroute with the cruise set at 130kph on the way to the sun.
Nice colour leather.
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Post by Martin on Sept 27, 2018 13:31:11 GMT
Not good is it, add the even more oversized grilles and it gets worse. No idea what was wrong with these, as they could be fully configurable so you could have ‘classic’ dials as an option.  |
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Post by Tim on Sept 27, 2018 13:32:19 GMT
I applaud BMW for their consistency.
The outside of the X Series cars has been increasingly overstyled recently and now they've let those crayon wielders loose on the inside too.
Look at all the lines, highlights, material and colour changes they've managed to shoehorn onto that poor unsuspecting dashboard.
The steering wheel appears to be oddly old fashioned (huge button count notwithstanding) in style as well.
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Post by Martin on Sept 27, 2018 13:39:07 GMT
Couple of positives. Biggest one is not switching to touchscreen only, which do not get better with familiarity, I like the neat aircon controls/display and the screen is reasonably well integrated into the dashboard.
Porsche have the dials spot on, proper rev counter and configurable screens.
Thinking about it a bit more....round speedos are fairly useless as there are much easier ways to read your speed and totally redundant if you have a decen HUD.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 27, 2018 13:41:53 GMT
Thinking about it a bit more....round speedos are fairly useless as there are much easier ways to read your speed and totally redundant if you have a decen HUD. Yep. Sports bikes stopped having dials for speedos at the end of the '90s but generally had one for revs (although newest ones have an lcd creeper bar) |
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Post by franki68 on Sept 28, 2018 8:30:49 GMT
Great,I often thought the x5 wasn’t big enough,hopefully an increase in size every generation will result in a car that takes up two lanes shortly.
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Post by Tim on Sept 28, 2018 9:37:55 GMT
They haven't done themselves any favours by using a white car for the press shots.
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Post by Andy C on Oct 1, 2018 13:44:51 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 3, 2018 9:35:37 GMT
I'm rather liking that Ateca, less so the price but a nice looker all told
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Post by grampa on Oct 10, 2018 16:16:16 GMT
I guess as BMW have now followed the herd and made their dashboards look like every other new car introduced in the last three years, there needs to be something to differentiate it?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 10, 2018 19:02:53 GMT
I guess as BMW have now followed the herd and made their dashboards look like every other new car introduced in the last three years, there needs to be something to differentiate it? Is it not the other way round; every other manufacturer has moved towards BMW's interior design? |
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Post by johnc on Oct 17, 2018 11:58:08 GMT
I was offered a fully loaded pre reg X5M50D yesterday at £690 deposit and £690/mth on a 4 year PCP which I declined but I did wonder!
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Post by Tim on Oct 17, 2018 12:12:22 GMT
Was that a last of the line old shape one or the new one?
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Post by johnc on Oct 17, 2018 16:42:54 GMT
Was that a last of the line old shape one or the new one? Last of the old ones and a 7 seater! |
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2018 19:56:32 GMT
Was that a last of the line old shape one or the new one? Last of the old ones and a 7 seater! That’s really cheap. Still wouldn’t. The new X5 has suddenly started to look much better.....the X7 is now on the configurator. |
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Post by Martin on Oct 17, 2018 20:03:49 GMT
This made me chuckle....the LCI version....  |
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Post by chipbutty on Oct 17, 2018 20:33:59 GMT
X7 has a nice interior (someone has gone crazy with the leather wrapping), but it has some really ungainly exterior details.
It’s almost as if they take a decent basic outline and deliberately ruin it with stupid bumper and grille designs.
This is the same company that did the E32 and E38 right ?
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Post by Tim on Oct 18, 2018 8:28:00 GMT
This made me chuckle....the LCI version....
Someone's done good work there getting the top line of the light to match into the line of the first vane of the grille. 
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Post by johnc on Oct 18, 2018 8:43:43 GMT
In the past no-one really made fun of the way BMW's looked but they have brought it upon themselves with the ever increasing grill size and the lack of imagination in exterior styling. The new digital dash also reminds me of Citroen's from the past, with the anti-clockwise rev counter - it's just wrong.
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Post by Tim on Oct 18, 2018 8:52:54 GMT
I got a quick glimpse of some new concept in the latest Autocar and they're clearly going with that awful grille that was shown on the gold coloured electric SUV thing recently.
It reminds me of someone sucking their cheeks in but its just thr crowning glory on something complete in its awfulness.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Oct 18, 2018 10:52:22 GMT
In the past no-one really made fun of the way BMW's looked but they have brought it upon themselves with the ever increasing grill size and the lack of imagination in exterior styling. The new digital dash also reminds me of Citroen's from the past, with the anti-clockwise rev counter - it's just wrong. They are clearly pandering more and more to the Chinese market and complementing their conservative overall styling with oversize blingy grilles, strange chrome hockey sticks down the side, out of place chrome strips and exaggerated exhaust finishers. I'm not sure it's a successful partnership. |
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Post by Tim on Oct 22, 2018 9:58:33 GMT
The latest issue of CAR mag has a drive of the new X5 closely followed by the new A6 Avant.
There are a LOT of shared design cues between them at the rear - shape of rear lights, the fact that they're sort of cut in 2 by the overhanging bit of bootlid that also covers the numberplate, the mass of creases and swages across the whole rear end, the shape of the twin exhausts and all the plastic around them, etc.
If you put them together with the same badge on you wouldn't know they were from different manufacturers.
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