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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 21:34:14 GMT
Despite being recalled to face the music, Pritti Patel had a 'cat that got the cream' grin when in camera shot today. OK, I am as conspiracy averse as anyone but the two do not go together well. She basically made the PM look like a complete idiot that has zero control of her own cabinet let alone the back benchers of the party. Just what is going down in the palace of power?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 8:32:51 GMT
Not good, is it? Ditto letting Johnson be the face of Britain to the outside world - especially the parts with Britons in its prisons...
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 9, 2017 9:44:53 GMT
TBH I've spent the lest few days trying to decide if I would or not.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 9, 2017 10:17:45 GMT
I rather feel that May has no real control over the cabinet and cannot expect to have having called an election and reduced the power of her MPs, Ministers and Secretaries having run the most pathetic campaign in living (Conservative) memory.
As to Ms Patel, she now has a "profile" for future years on the premise of "no publicity is worse than bad publicity", so she can smile away. She will be back, and now she's dropped her ministerial duties can doubtless pursue other business interests in the meantime as well as her MP diary stuff.
Boris is in post to keep the sizeable pro-Boris party members and MPs happy, in much the same way John Prescott was given a high profile role under New Labour. Sometimes the vast numbers of voters and party members that approve of Boris calling foreigners "fuzzy-wuzzies" and "cannibals" is underestimated.
Basically no one wants to challenge May as Brexit is clearly a shitstorm no one wants to have on their CV as being in charge of the party whilst it pans out; as soon as it looks like there's a bright light at the end of the tunnel of Brexit (if it's in the current Parliament) there will be a leadership election. If Brexit is looking like an unmitigated failure / impasse and policy needs to change to allow a softening there will be a challenge or an election so parties can reassess their policy positions on Brexit under a new Parliament.
Overall we are in a political limbo on the international stage. As we say amongst my friends, "Smile and invoice. Whatever they ask you to do, smile and invoice."
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 9, 2017 10:59:22 GMT
Despite being recalled to face the music, Pritti Patel had a 'cat that got the cream' grin when in camera shot today. Because that's the look she permanently wears - she comes across as so thoroughly and immensely pleased with herself that she makes Alex Salmond look like a lesson in abject humility. I think she's absolutely frightful - a clear example of a surfeit of ambition over talent.
Good riddance to particularly bad rubbish.
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Post by Tim on Nov 9, 2017 11:04:03 GMT
There's been a lot of talk surrounding this of Patel being a future challenger for the role of Tory leader and the person/people she has been with and meeting obviously have deep pockets and will presumably be happy to help fund her attempt.
Caveated with the same Brexit timing as BB says above, of course.
So, once again we have a senior political figure giving 'the country' 2 fingers in the single-minded pursuit of their own ambitions at the expense of everything else.
She did manage to look exceedingly smug.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 11:05:57 GMT
Basically May has allowed Patel to kick her ar5e and get away with it. The only thing that would have been a real punishment would have been to sack her from the party and in effect, ban her from the conservative party. That the laboured partly is waiting in the wings is quite frankly, a concern to say the least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 12:26:59 GMT
Despite being recalled to face the music, Pritti Patel had a 'cat that got the cream' grin when in camera shot today. Because that's the look she permanently wears - she comes across as so thoroughly and immensely pleased with herself that she makes Alex Salmond look like a lesson in abject humility. I think she's absolutely frightful - a clear example of a surfeit of ambition over talent.
Good riddance to particularly bad rubbish.
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Post by johnc on Nov 9, 2017 18:00:48 GMT
Because that's the look she permanently wears - she comes across as so thoroughly and immensely pleased with herself that she makes Alex Salmond look like a lesson in abject humility. I think she's absolutely frightful - a clear example of a surfeit of ambition over talent.
Good riddance to particularly bad rubbish.
That's the modern way, is it not? I didn't think you were allowed to be an MP unless that was the case! When I heard Reece-Mogg on the TV this morning I thought that no-one will hear what he is saying, they will only hear what he sounds like - and that is not a good thing for the Tories in a lot of the country.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 10:29:21 GMT
My image of Rees-Mogg will always be him being a patronising cunt to Jon Snow a while back!
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Post by michael on Nov 10, 2017 14:36:51 GMT
My image of Rees-Mogg will always be him being a patronising cunt to Jon Snow a while back! Good on him. Jon Snow is an arsehole. |
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Post by scouse on Nov 10, 2017 16:14:47 GMT
My image of Rees-Mogg will always be him being a patronising cunt to Jon Snow a while back! Good on him. Jon Snow is an arsehole. + 1,000,000 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 16:23:39 GMT
My image of Rees-Mogg will always be him being a patronising cunt to Jon Snow a while back! Good on him. Jon Snow is an arsehole. Not sure about that but he definitely went beyond boundaries during the interview. If he had talked to me like that I would have been a sight sharper than the response he actually got. |
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Post by franki68 on Nov 11, 2017 12:24:23 GMT
My image of Rees-Mogg will always be him being a patronising cunt to Jon Snow a while back! Good on him. Jon Snow is an arsehole. , and quite a nasty piece of work as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:53:15 GMT
Clearly none of you have ever listened to a John Humphreys interview on Radio 4!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 15:58:02 GMT
Radio what? Not listened to radio for yonks.
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Post by michael on Nov 11, 2017 16:07:40 GMT
Clearly none of you have ever listened to a John Humphreys interview on Radio 4! Was Jon Snow on? |
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Post by Tim on Nov 13, 2017 12:26:27 GMT
Clearly none of you have ever listened to a John Humphreys interview on Radio 4! Was Jon Snow on?
Sarah Montague was interrogating some charity bod who heads up the organisation that's trying to raise funds to repair Iron Bridge. It came across loud and clear that she thinks its a pointless waste of money and absolutely not worthwhile.
At least, I assume that's her thinking, she didn't ask any of her questions in a pleasant manner at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 12:32:05 GMT
Humphreys allows you half a sentence before he interrupts with a second question. What's the point?
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Post by michael on Nov 13, 2017 12:37:00 GMT
Humphreys allows you half a sentence before he interrupts with a second question. What's the point? Still not sure what it has got to do with Jon Snow being an arsehole? |
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Post by Tim on Nov 13, 2017 12:37:47 GMT
He should go.
Sarah M has that irritating characteristic where she makes a statement as a question.
I don't know why more interviewees don't refuse to answer or at least be more bolshy - not all of them need the coverage.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 12:40:19 GMT
I know what you mean - I'd be doing a John Nott...
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Post by PetrolEd on Nov 13, 2017 12:51:15 GMT
The Patel thing strikes me as a bit of a none story and is more to do with the press wanting more dirt on May. This was backed up by Gove's interview yesterday and the response he gave to the Nazanin debacle and the call that May, Johnson and Gove should go as they're not towing company line. Even her husband has admitted that Johnsons comments have at least brought a load of focus on the case and yet it seems the media are still wanting blood.
It seems we want our politicians to be even more elusive and the media ever more snivelling. I've given up
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Post by michael on Nov 13, 2017 13:01:50 GMT
The Boris thing is faux outrage for entirely political purposes and nothing to do with a dual national in Iran.
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Post by PG on Nov 15, 2017 6:52:58 GMT
Humphreys allows you half a sentence before he interrupts with a second question. What's the point? Still not sure what it has got to do with Jon Snow being an arsehole? Can we just agree they are both arseholes? They are even more self-important than some of the politicians they interview. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 15, 2017 10:04:44 GMT
The Boris thing is faux outrage for entirely political purposes and nothing to do with a dual national in Iran. That's an odd thing to assert when the whole thing stems from a gaffe he made about said dual national and then refused to apologise for. |
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 15, 2017 10:05:39 GMT
The Patel thing strikes me as a bit of a none story and is more to do with the press wanting more dirt on May. Why? Pretty much everyone in Westminster seemed to agree that in normal circumstances, a strong PM would have sacked her on the spot for what she did. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 15, 2017 10:44:40 GMT
The Patel thing strikes me as a bit of a none story and is more to do with the press wanting more dirt on May. Why? Pretty much everyone in Westminster seemed to agree that in normal circumstances, a strong PM would have sacked her on the spot for what she did. I think there's more to that Iran thing than meets they eye and I'm not convinced her journey there was quite as innocent as her family are trying to make out. |
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Post by Tim on Nov 15, 2017 11:08:51 GMT
Why? Pretty much everyone in Westminster seemed to agree that in normal circumstances, a strong PM would have sacked her on the spot for what she did. I think there's more to that Iran thing than meets they eye and I'm not convinced her journey there was quite as innocent as her family are trying to make out.
Why?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 15, 2017 11:24:16 GMT
I think there's more to that Iran thing than meets they eye and I'm not convinced her journey there was quite as innocent as her family are trying to make out.
Why?
Because I believe Boris's "slip" was nearer the truth. Because there was an interview with her employers on Radio 4 where they were trying to claim she was just a lowly Project Manager and then also referred to her as a journalist by mistake. And because I believe that the larger part of the charges against her by the Iranians relate to her activities outside of the country as part of an ex-pat community trying to ferment revolution within Iran. These cases are rarely as black and white as they are presented in the press - case in point the ex-pat jailed in Dubai for allegedly only touching a guy's hip in a bar. |
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