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Post by ChrisM on Jan 9, 2024 22:24:38 GMT
Last July I never received the VED reminder in the post for the Captur. A few weeks later I remember reading in Autocar that Steve Cropley said similar about one of his cars and he had difficulty in locating the V5 in order to re-tax it. I've not yet received the reminder in the post for the T-Cross VED due in 3 weeks. In the past the reminder always arrived in the post with at least 3 weeks to go before expiry of the old one. Is this a conspiracy to catch us out and then fine us for failing to tax in time if we don't take the initiative ourselves? Has anyone else here also failed to receive a paper reminder in the post?
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Post by Alex on Jan 10, 2024 4:30:48 GMT
Presumably this is to encourage us all to switch to paying it by Direct Debit which will help avoid us noticing as the price slowly creeps up.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jan 10, 2024 7:02:57 GMT
Presumably this is to encourage us all to switch to paying it by Direct Debit which will help avoid us noticing as the price slowly creeps up. Cynic! (You're probably correct though) |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 10, 2024 8:50:42 GMT
I’ve always paid by direct debit, otherwise I forget. I can’t do anything about the price rises so not really any reason not to.
But come to think of it, I’ve not received one for the Macan yet and obviously the first year VED was prepaid.
We always get one through for the Fiat which is nil-rated for VED.
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Post by alf on Jan 10, 2024 8:58:13 GMT
I certainly noticed when the Jag got to £690 a year on DD when it was a single payment! And the second-worst emissions group (£226-255 g/km - which the Porsche is in) is £675 now for 2001-2017 cars, and that includes some pretty normal vehicles. How they can keep demanding this for such old cars, when from 2017 onwards any level of emissions gets a flat rate of £180 (possibly after 6 years depending on intial cost) is beyond me. I do everything DD monthly now (paying even more for the privilege) as its so much.
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 10, 2024 9:33:46 GMT
They don't issue paper reminders any more as far as I am aware - I think there were some articles on it.
You can sign up to DVLA email reminders apparently.
I may be imagining it all.
Edit, it's optional, apparently. Sounds like they are trying to sneak it in by the back door.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 10, 2024 14:01:12 GMT
My wife definitely got one in the post for the Fiat in October, because she asked me to deal with it. Insanely, despite the VED being zero, you still have to go online and "renew".
The Macan's VED is due from 1 Feb and I have not yet had any reminder. The BMW was, and the Mini is, set up for direct debit. I have no idea whether the Macan was automatically set up for DD when I bought it or not - is there a way to check (short of bothering the original salesman)?
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Post by bryan on Jan 10, 2024 18:38:45 GMT
My wife definitely got one in the post for the Fiat in October, because she asked me to deal with it. Insanely, despite the VED being zero, you still have to go online and "renew". The Macan's VED is due from 1 Feb and I have not yet had any reminder. The BMW was, and the Mini is, set up for direct debit. I have no idea whether the Macan was automatically set up for DD when I bought it or not - is there a way to check (short of bothering the original salesman)? It should be itemised on the invoice but would guess it was supplied with a one off 12month ved |
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Post by Martin on Jan 10, 2024 19:02:19 GMT
My wife definitely got one in the post for the Fiat in October, because she asked me to deal with it. Insanely, despite the VED being zero, you still have to go online and "renew". The Macan's VED is due from 1 Feb and I have not yet had any reminder. The BMW was, and the Mini is, set up for direct debit. I have no idea whether the Macan was automatically set up for DD when I bought it or not - is there a way to check (short of bothering the original salesman)? It should be itemised on the invoice but would guess it was supplied with a one off 12month ved As it was a new car, that would definitely have been the case as it’s the first registration fee and would have been in the region of £2k. |
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Post by LandieMark on Jan 10, 2024 19:46:58 GMT
Ironically, I've just had the pickup's reminder through this morning in the post.
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Post by Tim on Jan 11, 2024 8:56:04 GMT
No reminders but have noticed that the KIA is over £20/month now.
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Post by PG on Jan 11, 2024 10:57:02 GMT
I certainly noticed when the Jag got to £690 a year on DD when it was a single payment! And the second-worst emissions group (£226-255 g/km - which the Porsche is in) is £675 now for 2001-2017 cars, and that includes some pretty normal vehicles. How they can keep demanding this for such old cars, when from 2017 onwards any level of emissions gets a flat rate of £180 (possibly after 6 years depending on intial cost) is beyond me. I do everything DD monthly now (paying even more for the privilege) as its so much. Indeed, owning anything "interesting" registered after 26 March 2006 is fiscal rape. I reckon cars registered between 2002 and 2005 will soon be the sweet spot for ownership - VED capped at £395. So far. Sadly, I expect VED rates (and fuel duty) to go up hugely on ICE cars as they try to force ICE cars off the road in the name of progress. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 11, 2024 16:07:03 GMT
Hopefully the 40 year exemption keeps rolling...4 years for the 928, 5 for 911, 8 for Elan.....
It is also one reason why I went for a 2005 Audi S4 and not the RS4...running costs are very different
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Post by Martin on Jan 11, 2024 16:20:52 GMT
If we still own it in July, which is increasingly likely, the Golf will be down to £180 (plus RPI) as the 'luxury' supplement (or whatever its called) comes to an end.
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Post by Martin on Jan 11, 2024 16:22:12 GMT
Hopefully the 40 year exemption keeps rolling...4 years for the 928, 5 for 911, 8 for Elan..... It is also one reason why I went for a 2005 Audi S4 and not the RS4...running costs are very different Why does it matter if they're all SORN?!  |
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Post by johnc on Jan 11, 2024 16:36:08 GMT
If we still own it in July, which is increasingly likely, the Golf will be down to £180 (plus RPI) as the 'luxury' supplement (or whatever its called) comes to an end. Are you sure? The devil is in the detail and the bar stewards start the 5 year clock ticking from the 2nd time the car is taxed. i.e. the car needs to be 7 years old before they take the "luxury, over £40K tax" off. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 11, 2024 16:47:51 GMT
Hopefully the 40 year exemption keeps rolling...4 years for the 928, 5 for 911, 8 for Elan..... It is also one reason why I went for a 2005 Audi S4 and not the RS4...running costs are very different Why does it matter if they're all SORN?! A low (but not wholly inaccurate) blow 😂 The Audi isn't sorn, it just has a puncture from the building work and a mini digger preventing me getting it out of the garage.... |
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Post by Martin on Jan 11, 2024 16:51:24 GMT
If we still own it in July, which is increasingly likely, the Golf will be down to £180 (plus RPI) as the 'luxury' supplement (or whatever its called) comes to an end. Are you sure? The devil is in the detail and the bar stewards start the 5 year clock ticking from the 2nd time the car is taxed. i.e. the car needs to be 7 years old before they take the "luxury, over £40K tax" off. Do they really?! I always thought it was paid for 5 years after the first tax at registration, so 6 years...not 7! Found this after a quick Google? Cars that cost £40,000 or more (after options) are subject to a further £390 annual supplement (up from £355 in 2021/2022) that runs for five years. This kicks in after the first-year’s CO2-based charge, so you’ll pay the supplement from years two to six of the car’s life. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 11, 2024 17:20:52 GMT
That would make sense when looking at M4s 17/18 plate cars were coming in the cheap tax bracket
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Post by alf on Jan 11, 2024 17:28:41 GMT
Yes it finishes at 6 years old. The government website says its "only" for 5 years.......... from the first renewal. Such weasel-words, why not say its for 6 years? Bastards. The Giulia hits the new rate in March 18.... What's annoying is that the Porsche - as a barely used classic - presumably remains >£600 forever.
Slightly earlier 987's than mine have cheap tax. They also have the potentually dodgy external IMS bearings however, so you takes you chances.........
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Post by Tim on Jan 11, 2024 17:30:24 GMT
My 430 is a 2017 and I'm sure the tax dropped last year.
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Post by Martin on Jan 11, 2024 17:30:59 GMT
Yes it finishes at 6 years old. The government website says its "only" for 5 years.......... from the first renewal. Such weasel-words, why not say its for 6 years? Bastards. The Giulia hits the new rate in March 18.... What's annoying is that the Porsche - as a barely used classic - presumably remains >£600 forever. Let me know how you get on when the renewal comes through as we reach that milestone 4 months after you. |
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 11, 2024 18:48:32 GMT
"Cars that cost £40,000 or more (after options) are subject to a further £390 annual supplement (up from £355 in 2021/2022) that runs for five years. This kicks in after the first-year’s CO2-based charge, so you’ll pay the supplement from years two to six of the car’s life."
Do you still have to pay the £390 supplement if the car is SORN'd in the first 6 years of its life?
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Post by Boxer6 on Jan 11, 2024 20:29:09 GMT
My 430 is a 2017 and I'm sure the tax dropped last year. So is mine (67-plate) and the higher rate for mine ended in August. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 12, 2024 8:59:38 GMT
As it happens, the reminder for the Macan was waiting on the doormat when I got home last night.
So they are definitely still sending them out.
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Post by alf on Jan 12, 2024 14:37:40 GMT
Yes it finishes at 6 years old. The government website says its "only" for 5 years.......... from the first renewal. Such weasel-words, why not say its for 6 years? Bastards. The Giulia hits the new rate in March 18.... What's annoying is that the Porsche - as a barely used classic - presumably remains >£600 forever. Let me know how you get on when the renewal comes through as we reach that milestone 4 months after you. Its definitely the case, as I pay monthly by DD and there was a look-ahead on the DVSA website that showed the prices coming down from March - it happens automatically in this instance... |
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 12, 2024 18:40:47 GMT
The T-Cross's reminder has appeared in the post....
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 15, 2024 21:43:12 GMT
I've had this response from the DVLA when I used the "contact" form to ask about missing reminders in the post:
"Thank you for your enquiry.
We appreciate you have taken the time to contact us in relation to this matter.
It may be helpful if I explain that V11 renewal reminders are printed and given to the Royal Mail® approximately 6 weeks before the current tax expires. This is to allow time for them to be sorted and distributed through the Royal Mail® network. An application to obtain vehicle tax can't be made prior to the 5th day of the month in which the current tax expires. Therefore, we instruct the Royal Mail® to deliver V11s after this date.
The process of issuing V11 reminders is a service we provide to make the taxing procedure more efficient for our customers. There is no statutory obligation for the Agency to produce the V11 form. It is the responsibility of the vehicle keeper to ensure that a vehicle is correctly taxed at all times it is used or kept on the public road. However, in cases where a customer has not received a V11, or if it has been mislaid, the V5C Registration Certificate can be used in its place.
The system is unable to issue duplicate V11s or issue to an address other than the registered address."
So it looks like it's down to Royal Mail losing the reminder letters.....
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Post by Alex on Jan 16, 2024 17:38:14 GMT
Oi Bryan sort it out!
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