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Post by Big Blue on Oct 7, 2023 8:23:24 GMT
Better start him a thread before there’s no point.
So, was he stressed about his position on the grid or did he see Lawson laughing with the Aston mechanics at the back of the garage?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 10:28:14 GMT
I have no idea what happened yet, perhaps the plot will click when I see the rerun on C4,
My neighbour did mention Max was displeased about something points related.
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Post by Sav on Oct 7, 2023 10:39:20 GMT
He is a lost cause in F1. How amusing it was earlier in the season, hearing how Alonso was (appearing anyway) to help Stroll, and assist with his driving. He was even sort of trying to dictate where Stroll finished during the races themselves, suggesting over the radio what strategy might help Stroll. That’s a bit hard to achieve now, when Alonso is solidly scoring points in almost every race and Stroll has progressively got worse. You can't manufacturer talent like Alonso's, then hope it rubs off onto someone else. It should be noted that Stroll has been given help from various people behind the scenes, Montoya spent time with him a few years ago. Tricky to know exactly what went on, but Montoya has his son’s career to think about now – and improving the performance of an existing F1 driver might have slid down his list of priorities.
Now that Aston is going to be competing in Hypercar in WEC with the Valkyrie, Stroll Snr might want to slot him into that programme. With three drivers per car, his direness would be slightly discussed - "it was a team effort!" Chortles….
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Post by humphreythepug on Oct 7, 2023 12:33:15 GMT
I actually think he has lost interest, lets face it he is only in this position due to his dad living what he wanted to do, through his son.
He was proper narked yesterday, shoving his trainer with what looked like a fair amount of force, totally inexcusable.
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 7, 2023 22:38:06 GMT
A bit harsh. There’s been a lot worse than stroll and there’s been a lot better. His time is probably done but I do feel for the lad. There’s a fair amount of pressure on your shoulders when your dads bought the team so you can have a drive. At least stroll snr has made a few £100m on the deal which has more than paid for Lances drives.
Still I understand that Lance is a mean tennis player so maybe Lawrence can invest in something like Roland Garros to get him on the tour.
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Post by Sav on Oct 7, 2023 23:33:07 GMT
That is true, there have been worse. But today's F1 has no place for gentleman drivers or pay-driver specials for very long. They can enter for a season or so - but get annihilated and have to consequently leave soon after. Latifi, Max Chilton and others spring to mind more recently. Thats one of the issues with only having 10 teams, there isn't space for drivers trundling about.
The soft tyre at Losail will be avoided like a plague tomorrow. With 3 Safety Car periods in the sprint race they only did 10 laps, but the soft tyre runners were out of rubber by lap 19 - a tyre for only 10 laps essentially. The teams who have saved two sets of hard tyres per driver will be in good shape for tomorrow. It might be a genuienly challenging race, I know that is often said. But looking at the tyre fall off, bar the opening lap - there won't be much advantage in overtaking and especially going off-line with how dusty it is. That might peg back some of Red Bull's advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 0:00:44 GMT
I still believe that such drivers with a huge pay to stay ability should be vetted to a standard by, probably, ex drivers with a few sessions of familiarisation and ability checking.
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Post by Sav on Oct 8, 2023 22:38:49 GMT
Probably the worst example of that was Nikita Mazepin. He essentially got his super license by doing a series of "tests" for the Mercedes F1 team. His stint in F2 alone would not have been enough.
As for the Grand Prix. Hamilton v Russell at turn 1. Definitely Hamilton's fault, but that that sort of collision sort of became the norm for the weekend. Qatar has strange late apex corners that invite the driver in, or indeed someone on the outside to do a wall of death - but it requires everything to go fine with no mistakes from the drivers. When it doesn't you see the consequence. Hamilton should have never been on the soft compound to start with, what were the team thinking? A totally unsuitable race tyre especially on a full tank. Nobody else in the top ten started on the soft tyre - with good reason.
Amusing about track limts. It really does happen everywhere in racing. Take Brands Hatch today, MSV circuits all have sensors in them - there is no subjectivity applied.
Robert De Haan is something special in Carrera Cup GB. He's a bit like Max Verstappen but in a tin-top, bloody exciting to watch - and Dutch. The commentators are a bit harsh on him, he will make mistakes...he only turned 17 recently! That name, is a name I think will be around for a very long time....
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 9, 2023 8:09:19 GMT
I still believe that such drivers with a huge pay to stay ability should be vetted to a standard by, probably, ex drivers with a few sessions of familiarisation and ability checking. Is that what the superlicense is for? Even Mazapin won races in GP2/F2, whatever its called, so he wasn't useless. It just appears the step up to F1 is a huge step and maybe F2 isn't that fit for purpose. Though drivers like Russell and Piastri coming through the ranks in the last couple of seasons might refute that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 11:15:13 GMT
I would want them to have a serious test of their abilities in close racing, the step up is significant too so perhaps these drivers do not get a proper shot when they do make it. Managing the car is hard enough but the situational awareness has to be there too and getting this right will have an impact on safety as well as economics of managing a cost capped season.
Throwing folk into the deep end has failed for decades so perhaps improve the lot of noobies generally and make racing safer too. Several incidents where established drivers have nearly lost their heads due to rookie errors.
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