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Post by Stuntman on Jun 16, 2019 17:33:10 GMT
Well I've been wearing these new watches for a good few months now, which has helped clarify which types of watch I like more than others, and what direction(s) I might go in next. The Farers are my favourites - in terms of size, shape and dial. I still like the Roue watches and they are excellent quality for the price, but I don't expect that I'll buy any more Roues. Also I'm pretty sure that I prefer a round case rather than the tonneau style of the Roues, or the rectangular style of the LIV. The Seiko is really good for the price paid. The lume on it is fantastic and the bezel action is really nice. But it's a thick watch (to be expected for a fully ISO certified diver's watch with 200m water resistance) and because the case size is pretty small at 37mm, it wears a bit bulky. And also it wears a bit small - the 37mm case width measurement includes the bezel, and the dial itself is petite. I'm still pleased to have bought it, but if/when I move further up the price range for a diver's watch, I think 39-40mm would be my sweet spot. Trouble is, most of the upmarket/higher quality dive watches are bigger. I like the look of the new Omega Seamaster Coaxial with the black wavy dial, but it's 42mm and probably too big. Talking of big watches, the LIV is big and also chunky. I like it because it's something different, but it has done a fairly good job of talking me out of buying a Heuer Monaco. Now I love the Monaco, have saved up the cash and even tried one on a couple of weeks ago, but I really don't think I'd wear it very often because it's not an easy watch to wear, especially if you are of average/slim build with average/slim wrists. I've read up on all the 50th Anniversary Limited Editions too, but none of these works for me either. So today I have taken a deep breath and spent the Monaco money on not one, but two, proper automatic watches. I will post them up when they arrive, which should be during the course of the coming week. My plan is to enjoy wearing these two newcomers for decades to come
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Post by Andy C on Jun 16, 2019 20:17:59 GMT
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 16, 2019 21:29:07 GMT
Thanks Andy - and yes, I had seen that one (it's the second of five Monaco 50th Anniversary limited edition models. It's actually 'only' £600 more than standard for that particular version of the Monaco, the one you're probably thinking of is a different model with the crown on the same side as the pushers.
Mind you, it's currently possible to find the standard Calibre 11 version for 20% off list price, whereas these editions are extremely limited (169 pieces worldwide) and they are not being discounted at all.
They are releasing one each month across May to September and each one relates to a decade. So far, they have released the 1969-79 edition which is a very funky brown and green. Polarising colours (it's not for me) but a great design - in fact my favourite of the five limited editions.
The one in your link is the 1979-89 edition and will probably appeal to Ferrari owners.
Each of the five editions has its own reference number. The first one is CAW211V and the second one is CAW211W. Although the others haven't been officially released yet, if you search for CAW211X, Y and Z you will see what the remaining three editions look like :-)
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 17, 2019 6:46:13 GMT
My Omega Planet Ocean is 42mm. It felt big for about half an hour. Now, anything smaller than that feels like a boy's watch.
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Post by johnc on Jun 17, 2019 8:19:00 GMT
My Omega Planet Ocean is 42mm. It felt big for about half an hour. Now, anything smaller than that feels like a boy's watch. Mine is the 43.5mm version which feels quite normal now and the bigger face is a help for ageing eyes!
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 17, 2019 10:11:42 GMT
I, quite clearly, drew too many short straws in life and went down the wrong career/income path !
I could never contemplate spending 5 grand on a watch... up until fairly recently that's all I could contemplate spending on a loan for a car !
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 17, 2019 19:13:59 GMT
Chris - I live very simply day to day (well within my means), which enables me to save hard and spend big.
These two watches have cost me £3905 in total (one cost £1675, the other £2230), and required a very deep breath. I will go without several other things that I might have considered doing/buying this year as a consequence. I do not regret my decisions for a moment!
Any guesses as to what these watches actually are?
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Post by Martin on Jun 17, 2019 21:05:49 GMT
I, quite clearly, drew too many short straws in life and went down the wrong career/income path ! I could never contemplate spending 5 grand on a watch... up until fairly recently that's all I could contemplate spending on a loan for a car ! You don’t do all that badly Chris. 3 cars all bought new and you’ve done a bit of travelling over the last few years, which is definitely a luxury and one a lot of people can’t afford. Holidays are great, top of my list, but they are all over a lot more quickly than watch ownership will be for Dan.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 17, 2019 21:40:09 GMT
All cars bought on finance initially. I can really thank my late father, and my mum, for that and almost everything else I've got. We had an interest-only mortgage on the house and my dad always said not to worry about that because mum persuaded her mum and her sister to leave their share of the family home to my brother and me when they died.... dad left my brother and me nothing!
What I eventually received paid off the mortgage in full plus 2 car loans.... 3rd car is still on finance. My dad just had the wonderful ability to know where to invest to make money but none of that rubbed off on brother or me.... and since the financial crisis you get almost nothing back on any investment unless you get really lucky (some of my pension fund is in the recently headlining Woodford fund.....).
Many times I wish I had done what I wanted to do, and not taken the advice of so-called experts! I may own my house and 2 cars but there isn't much over to do any more travelling and as for how much "The corpse that wouldn't die" has cost me, and continues to cost me, ......... I just hope i don't get framed and sent to prison
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2019 5:44:55 GMT
I, quite clearly, drew too many short straws in life and went down the wrong career/income path ! I could never contemplate spending 5 grand on a watch... up until fairly recently that's all I could contemplate spending on a loan for a car ! You posted a pic of your 20 watches. I prefer to just spend that money on one decent Omega but you pays your money and makes your choices.
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Post by johnc on Jun 18, 2019 6:37:43 GMT
Any guesses as to what these watches actually are? Something like a TAG Aquaracer and a Tudor North Flag?
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 18, 2019 6:55:15 GMT
I, quite clearly, drew too many short straws in life and went down the wrong career/income path ! I could never contemplate spending 5 grand on a watch... up until fairly recently that's all I could contemplate spending on a loan for a car ! You posted a pic of your 20 watches. I prefer to just spend that money on one decent Omega but you pays your money and makes your choices. None cost more than £100 and a majority were in the order of £10 to £15.... I suppose it's a sort of side-effect of depression and unhappiness - go out and buy something to cheer yourself up. My parents lived a comparatively frugal lifestyle (eg keeping their car for 30 years, 20 years etc) and had few indulgences or hobbies, preferring to spend on long holidays after dad retired. If I were like my dad, I'd have less than 6 months to go before I stopped working for good !
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 18, 2019 7:19:55 GMT
John - no, not a TAG or a Tudor, although I do like some of the watches from both those brands. Chris - chin up, celebrate what you have and don't be envious of what you don't. And take some personal responsibility!
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 18, 2019 7:23:13 GMT
... and since the financial crisis you get almost nothing back on any investment unless you get really lucky (some of my pension fund is in the recently headlining Woodford fund.....). I'm afraid that's not true at all. My SIPP is up over 10% (compound annual growth) per annum since 2008, and it includes a five figure sum in the same Woodford Fund...
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 18, 2019 7:36:10 GMT
You posted a pic of your 20 watches. I prefer to just spend that money on one decent Omega but you pays your money and makes your choices. None cost more than £100 and a majority were in the order of £10 to £15.... I suppose it's a sort of side-effect of depression and unhappiness - go out and buy something to cheer yourself up. My parents lived a comparatively frugal lifestyle (eg keeping their car for 30 years, 20 years etc) and had few indulgences or hobbies, preferring to spend on long holidays after dad retired. If I were like my dad, I'd have less than 6 months to go before I stopped working for good ! In that case you definitely paid more than I did for my Omega. My dad died at 51. 16 years later I managed to realise some value on shares that were previously deemed worthless and I bought the watch. I regard it as a gift he has given me and it is a constant reminder of what an amazing dad he was, albeit I didn't get to spend the time with him I'd of liked. Your parents left you an awful lot, celebrate the sacrifices they made for you and raise a glass to them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 7:43:33 GMT
... and since the financial crisis you get almost nothing back on any investment unless you get really lucky (some of my pension fund is in the recently headlining Woodford fund.....). I'm afraid that's not true at all. My SIPP is up over 10% (compound annual growth) per annum since 2008, and it includes a five figure sum in the same Woodford Fund... I'd go so far as to say you've had to be pretty unlucky not to make reasonable returns since then.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 18, 2019 8:08:42 GMT
I'm afraid that's not true at all. My SIPP is up over 10% (compound annual growth) per annum since 2008, and it includes a five figure sum in the same Woodford Fund... I'd go so far as to say you've had to be pretty unlucky not to make reasonable returns since then. I think I'd have to conclude I've been pretty unlucky ! TBH events in the recent past have made me worry less, just wish I could get the court case against me dropped, that would make me feel a lot (and I mean a lot) better. How someone can take action with no evidence and, over 3 1/2 years down the line, no figure on what has allegedly gone missing, I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 8:31:30 GMT
I think I must have missed that - it does sound as though it would be psychologically wearing.
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2019 8:39:04 GMT
All cars bought on finance initially. I can really thank my late father, and my mum, for that and almost everything else I've got. We had an interest-only mortgage on the house and my dad always said not to worry about that because mum persuaded her mum and her sister to leave their share of the family home to my brother and me when they died.... dad left my brother and me nothing! What I eventually received paid off the mortgage in full plus 2 car loans.... 3rd car is still on finance. My dad just had the wonderful ability to know where to invest to make money but none of that rubbed off on brother or me.... and since the financial crisis you get almost nothing back on any investment unless you get really lucky (some of my pension fund is in the recently headlining Woodford fund.....). Many times I wish I had done what I wanted to do, and not taken the advice of so-called experts! I may own my house and 2 cars but there isn't much over to do any more travelling and as for how much "The corpse that wouldn't die" has cost me, and continues to cost me, ......... I just hope i don't get framed and sent to prison Getting your interest only mortgage and car loans paid off for you isn’t too bad at all!! I hope my parents get to spend all their money, they’ve worked hard and deserve to enjoy it while they can. They’re doing a great job of getting through it, mainly through travelling the world.
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Jun 18, 2019 8:39:47 GMT
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Post by Martin on Jun 18, 2019 8:39:47 GMT
I'd go so far as to say you've had to be pretty unlucky not to make reasonable returns since then. I think I'd have to conclude I've been pretty unlucky ! TBH events in the recent past have made me worry less, just wish I could get the court case against me dropped, that would make me feel a lot (and I mean a lot) better. How someone can take action with no evidence and, over 3 1/2 years down the line, no figure on what has allegedly gone missing, I don't know. Hopefully it gets revolved quickly Chris.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 18, 2019 9:51:57 GMT
Chris - I live very simply day to day (well within my means), which enables me to save hard and spend big. These two watches have cost me £3905 in total (one cost £1675, the other £2230), and required a very deep breath. I will go without several other things that I might have considered doing/buying this year as a consequence. I do not regret my decisions for a moment! Any guesses as to what these watches actually are? I am a big believer in doing things when you can because you might not get another opportunity.
I have two very nice watches bought over a decade ago when I was single and living on a handsome expat wage. And I'm happy that I didn't, as there is simply no way I could justify the expense of buying one today.
They've also proved to be less financially frivolous than most expensive purchases, as I could walk into a watch shop today and sell both of them for at least what I paid for them.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 18, 2019 11:39:30 GMT
If there’s concern about means of payment for watches then don’t bother. Watches are largely jewellery as mobile phones with radio corrected clocks are how most of us tell the time. Being concerned about jewellery is not something to stress about.
Still going to buy that Patel Philippe 8day Gondolo when I lose my last parent. She’s quite supportive of the idea (her jewellery box is quite full).
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 18, 2019 18:47:28 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 18, 2019 20:16:52 GMT
I like both of those, especially the Lander.
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 18, 2019 20:28:19 GMT
It's the Lander that I'll be picking up tomorrow
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Post by humphreythepug on Jun 19, 2019 6:22:12 GMT
None cost more than £100 and a majority were in the order of £10 to £15.... I suppose it's a sort of side-effect of depression and unhappiness - go out and buy something to cheer yourself up. My parents lived a comparatively frugal lifestyle (eg keeping their car for 30 years, 20 years etc) and had few indulgences or hobbies, preferring to spend on long holidays after dad retired. If I were like my dad, I'd have less than 6 months to go before I stopped working for good ! In that case you definitely paid more than I did for my Omega. My dad died at 51. 16 years later I managed to realise some value on shares that were previously deemed worthless and I bought the watch. I regard it as a gift he has given me and it is a constant reminder of what an amazing dad he was, albeit I didn't get to spend the time with him I'd of liked. Your parents left you an awful lot, celebrate the sacrifices they made for you and raise a glass to them. I planned on buying a nice watch to remind me of my dad after he died, using some of the proceeds of the inheritance that he wanted (documented) both myself and my sister to have, however the money has never materialised, even though both myself and my sister were told that we would be getting it, even my children haven't received their £1000 that my dad wanted them to have. The bitch that he married has gone off with it all and not carried out his wishes, it's ironic really as she tells anyone who will listen that we fell out over money, we didn't we fell out as she wasn't telling me anything, but if she wants to justify it to herself that it's about money; when she's gone off with it all, then fair enough, the people that matter know the truth.
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Post by johnc on Jun 19, 2019 7:40:02 GMT
It's the Lander that I'll be picking up tomorrow I like the Lander too....not one for conventional choices are you Stunters?
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Post by johnc on Jun 19, 2019 7:42:32 GMT
I planned on buying a nice watch to remind me of my dad after he died That's the reason I bought an Omega - my Dad's favourite watch and I wanted one to remember him by. No-one knows where his old Omega went after he died - I dare say it will be found down the back of a cupboard or at the back of a drawer in years to come.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 19, 2019 8:40:04 GMT
I planned on buying a nice watch to remind me of my dad after he died, using some of the proceeds of the inheritance that he wanted (documented) both myself and my sister to have, however the money has never materialised, even though both myself and my sister were told that we would be getting it, even my children haven't received their £1000 that my dad wanted them to have. The bitch that he married has gone off with it all and not carried out his wishes, it's ironic really as she tells anyone who will listen that we fell out over money, we didn't we fell out as she wasn't telling me anything, but if she wants to justify it to herself that it's about money; when she's gone off with it all, then fair enough, the people that matter know the truth. That is outrageous.... who is/are the Executors of his Will/Estate as they are liable - or is it within family, such that it's easier to begrudgingly accept that they have misappropriated his Estate?
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Post by Tim on Jun 19, 2019 8:43:04 GMT
I keep meaning to pick up my dad's Avia watch when I visit my mum but keep forgetting. I think he bought it in Switzerland in the 1970s but it has one of those elasticated metal straps that trap the hairs on your wrist so I wouldn't actually wear it (neither did he very often either....).
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