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Post by Big Blue on Jun 23, 2023 18:35:35 GMT
Well let's not be blunt about it, this was a disaster waiting to happen. Diving to the depths in a vehicle with no form of external assurance / certification whatsoever isn't really worth a quarter of million each IMHO. Most grim was that the son from the father and son didn't want to go but didn't want to displease his father.
I guess like motorsport, death can be possibility and everyone partakes with a bit of voluntās involved but scrutineering is there to make sure the vehicle itself has a reduced opportunity of being the thing that kills you! This submersible capsule seems to me to be the kind of thing that I would look at and say "nah, you're alright mate" and take my quarter of a million to the betting shop. The amount of resource to find the bits doesn't bear thinking about either - and the tactfulness of the coastguard saying that "..it might not be possible to find the bodies due to the harsh environment..." as opposed to "..what we'd find of 'em might fit in a Tupperware box.." was an immense bit of composure.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 23, 2023 19:08:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 21:42:28 GMT
Well, Shirley would have mounted an escape trunk somewhere on the hull. A vessel where you are sealed in with zero option to escape well, Darwinism. Fact is I thought all deep water cessels were regulated and that it not the case, apparently the designer thought certification would be a waste of time and cost too much.
The emporers new clothes perhaps, always someone with money and a bastard wanting to part them from it.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 23, 2023 22:10:25 GMT
I got similar but a cardboard box shaped like a moon lander. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 24, 2023 7:03:32 GMT
The very idea of getting in that thing screams of "nope!".
Perhaps I'm being crass here but 5 rich guys with very little chance of being alive had much more time and money spent on a rescue attempt than the hundreds of migrants that went under the Med the other week (which included over 100 children locked in the hold of a boat).
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 24, 2023 7:20:31 GMT
The very idea of getting in that thing screams of "nope!". Perhaps I'm being crass here but 5 rich guys with very little chance of being alive had much more time and money spent on a rescue attempt than the hundreds of migrants that went under the Med the other week (which included over 100 children locked in the hold of a boat). Absolutely this. And all the similar boat sinkings which get relatively little mention on the news. |
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Post by Ben on Jun 24, 2023 11:22:53 GMT
The deep sea is a scary monster. I wouldn't go in there even for a million dollars.
It's a shame they died but they knew the risks (except for the poor boy).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 15:33:20 GMT
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Post by woofwoof on Jun 26, 2023 19:26:54 GMT
I gather that sub got around the regs by being an experimental craft but they'd been doing trips for years so I assume there was no real experimentation or development doing on and no justification for not conforming to whatever regs apply to these things.
Another sad aspect to all this is the vile comments on social media. That people can revel in all this and even be glad of these deaths just shows how lacking in decency and empathy some are.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 27, 2023 15:49:56 GMT
I don't know why anyone would want to go down in that submersible to peer out at the Titanic through a small porthole. I've been on the North Sea dive ships with the ROVs on and they are controlled from an airconditioned container, equipped with HD monitors and comfy leather chairs, allowing you to sip your coffee while exploring the depths in detail. Give me that any day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 16:20:11 GMT
Best I can come up with is the mountain climber. we know what it looks like quite well via television and internet but, some will still climb the things.
When I was about five or six, the was a wall at my school which for some reason got under my skin. I must have fallen off that daamn thing at least a dozen times, getting closer (And taller) each time. When I got it done I felt euphoric, looked around and was instantly disappointed. Never even thought about it until another ten years had gone by, that thought I will not repeat but waste of effort sums it up.
There was a televised dive on Titanic featuring that thing, they had problems then and nearly had to abort, nobody thought to actually stop the thing from use which seems top be a trabesty but par for the course. Using a hull which was constructed from material thought good for one dive, a half dozen times is Russian Roulette writ large but like any consumer purchase, buyer beware, A bit like those crapto curency things.
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Post by PG on Jun 29, 2023 12:28:23 GMT
Very sad that people had to die, but there are certifications and standards for deep sea "anything" for a good reason. You would basically be nuts to have gone in that tube.
I thought the headline that said "bodies may not be recovered" was the one that got the understatement award of the year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 14:06:47 GMT
With what pressure does to bodies, a blessing perhaps.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 29, 2023 15:29:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2023 13:41:06 GMT
Just too apropos not to post it.
"Mad Science" means never stopping to ask "what's the worst thing that could happen?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 13:15:26 GMT
Apparently the viewing portal being rated at 1,300m and taken to 4,000m is confirmed.
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