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Post by LandieMark on Jun 9, 2023 23:32:53 GMT
Really fancy an XKR 5.0 Supercharged.
I'd love a T350C, but they are £35k and I can't justify it. I'm also not getting any younger and a comfortable GT appeals.
PCPing a toy over 4 years makes such a thing quite affordable and fairly risk free. Finance rates are obviously higher than they were, but it doesn't make that much difference in reality.
Z4 M Coupe another possibility in the £20k price range I've set myself.
Probably looking at selling the Discovery and using that plus a couple of £k as deposit and balloon of 50% over 4 years.
Thoughts either way and any other potential suspects? SL AMG is another possibility at that price point, although at this time in life I think I would prefer a coupe.
Over to you.
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Post by Martin on Jun 10, 2023 4:44:17 GMT
I do like the idea of an XKR. What about a Granturismo? Early £20s for a low mileage car that looks and sounds fantastic?
The only other thought is a V8 M3
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Post by clunes on Jun 10, 2023 6:49:24 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Jun 10, 2023 7:24:49 GMT
Mustang 5.0 is a great shout
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Post by Andy C on Jun 10, 2023 7:28:11 GMT
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Post by Martin on Jun 10, 2023 7:49:37 GMT
Mustang 5.0 is a great shout I agree, but thought they were high £20s and not as a couple of the other options. The Granturismo Clunes linked to is lovely, if you’re brave enough it’s a clear winner for me. But the red XKR is very nice. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 10, 2023 8:01:18 GMT
All the suggestions above are good. There are some SL500 Mercs in that price range as well as AMG55s, but I would probably lean towards the Jaguar.
The price range will get you a tidy Bentley Arnage or an early Continental GT, but the maintenance bills will be colossal.
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Post by clunes on Jun 10, 2023 8:34:36 GMT
Mustang 5.0 is a great shout I agree, but thought they were high £20s and not as a couple of the other options. The Granturismo Clunes linked to is lovely, if you’re brave enough it’s a clear winner for me. But the red XKR is very nice. Having looked into the Maseratis as a possible second car the general consensus seems to be that they are actually pretty reliable and robust - of course you pay ‘Maserati’ tax for servicing / parts etc but folk report positively. I know someone in the US who had a couple (coupe and convertible) among a few other ‘toys’ and they give him no real hassle as long as you keep up with the basics etc. of course there is still potential bork factor but nothing compared to the earlier models and gettting an auto reduces the expense over the MC shift options. |
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Post by bryan on Jun 10, 2023 8:45:26 GMT
All the suggestions above are good. There are some SL500 Mercs in that price range as well as AMG55s, but I would probably lean towards the Jaguar. The price range will get you a tidy Bentley Arnage or an early Continental GT, but the maintenance bills will be colossal. How much is a new chassis? |
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Post by bryan on Jun 10, 2023 8:53:17 GMT
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Post by bryan on Jun 10, 2023 8:59:46 GMT
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Post by clunes on Jun 10, 2023 9:19:36 GMT
My neighbour has an Aston Vantage V8 (4.3). A beautiful thing and sounds glorious. It’s strictly a weekend toy (and not every weekend at that) so keeps mileage very low but still throws some big bills. Just wouldn’t start recently so had to get it collected, some sensor or another throwing a wobbly. That plus service (nothing major) and some work on brakes was £3k. Bloody lovely though  |
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 10, 2023 16:18:28 GMT
I "quite" like the Maserati, but I don't think it looks as good as the Jaguar - especially from the back - it's actually quite plain. The potential for massive bills is in the back of my mind too much as well.
That Aston with the caramel interior is gorgeous, but I want something with an auto. I could probably ignore the massive bork potential as we have a couple of local specialists.
It's early days yet, as the MX-5 is getting long in the tooth now so we may need to change that first. Certainly I'm going to have to spend a little on bodywork to get it looking its best.
Lindsey likes it still, but I am really starting to dislike the driving position as I'm aging with various aches and pains. My back is fused and while it is actually pain free, my hips aren't and the angle of the seat cripples me after a while. Its her car though so she has the final say and I can't afford two new vehicles at the same time, so she gets first refusal this time. I can wait a year or two if need be.
However, if she doesn't want to change it I will happily spend a few quid on it and buy a weekend toy.
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Post by bryan on Jun 10, 2023 19:22:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 19:35:07 GMT
Options to replace the MX-5 seem to be few and far between the genre being less popular now.
The Jag is still not cheap but would seem to be the better balanxe of cost versus benefit to my mind, long test drive might be available if they want to sell.
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Post by Andy C on Jun 10, 2023 20:36:31 GMT
If you’re going to replace the MX5 then I’d look at one of these They sound great. I had a (non abarth) one in Lanzarote and it drove superb too There’s not many about either. Future classic is pushing it but I can see the appeal www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211081486429 |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 10, 2023 21:01:52 GMT
I think an xkr is the dogs dangly bits. Plus you see so few around now. It’s like they’ve all been put into storage awaiting their time as a classic.
Stupid alternative Bentley conti gt
Sensible alternative Porsche Cayman 981
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Post by chipbutty on Jun 11, 2023 7:50:03 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 11, 2023 10:05:24 GMT
Cheers. I'm just musing at the moment. I may get all sensible and not get anything at all, but I'm getting an itch.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 11, 2023 13:53:33 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 11, 2023 14:22:25 GMT
Some interesting stuff there. The Volvo is rare, but really?
Whatever it is (or isn't) it will need to be coupe or possibly a convertibe, but I would prefer not. A saloon just won't cut it as a weekend toy for me.
I didn't realise F-Types had come down as much. That may be a realistic possibility to sell Lindsey.
I'm not necessarily after a B road stormer, but I reckon (having driven one) that my pickup would out handle the S80.
What I really need is a TVR Chimaera - oh, hang on a minute.
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Post by Martin on Jun 11, 2023 14:28:18 GMT
Im not sure about the Chimera, don’t they have problems with the chassis?  I was half expecting a drunken Le Mans purchase confession!  |
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 11, 2023 14:32:01 GMT
The auction was a little out of my league. Only by a few £m mind. 🤣
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Post by PG on Jun 11, 2023 19:38:59 GMT
XKR has to be a good shout. I'd love one. But if you like the style and can take a bit less performance, a standard 5.0 V8 is still decently quick and avoids the "R" tax that seems to apply to buying the maintenance when you need it. www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305317981654If you're waiting a year or so, F Types are going to be seriously in reach and very tempting. Isn't the 3.0 V6S the one to go for? Can't disagree that a Maserati has a real appeal - those and XK's are to me amongst the last of the beautiful grand tourers. |
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Post by alf on Jun 12, 2023 9:29:11 GMT
I am not about to criticise the choice of an XKR - however I have noticed they hold value a fair bit better than saloons with the same engine - are there many good XKR about with the 5.0 for less than £20k? Be aware that many still had the older 4.2 engine even after cars like the XFR had the 5.0 and while I know nothing bad about the 4.2, the 5.0 is simply superb, very strong, and has ridiculously good MPG for what it is, especially on a run. I vaguely pondered an XKR soft top 5.0 as a "one car" solution before I got the Boxster but the rear seats were tiny, and they were more money than I expected.
I too would also consider both F-types and Boxster/Cayman as well. 987 Caymans/Boxsters, pre-facelift, remain insanely good value and only harsh tracking of the engine causes issues the post facelift cars do not also have, for their huge premium. I personally love a bit of fresh air motoring as as the Boxster/Cayman platform was designed as a soft top, you get fewer compromises than with most soft tops, the amount of storage space is silly (in a good way) for such a small car. Somewhere around £15k gets you a very good early 987 of either flavour, and a good early one will be as good as any pre-the new engines.
The pleasure I get from the XFR is mainly its ability to be so supremely fast, refined, (relatively) frugal, and still give decent feedback. As a toy though, the Boxster kills it dead, not least because the stuff Evo always say about manual gearboxes is true - if you don't also sit in traffic in them... The tactility of the Porsche, the way it's chassis, brakes and steering all keep you so informed, makes me fully understand why Porsche bores are how they are. Owning a (decent, 6 cylinder petrol) 3 series on the other hand did not. That communicated less than the Jag.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 13, 2023 15:39:04 GMT
Yes, I've looked at Caymans. I do like them.
It was JayEmms video that made me look at XKRs.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 16, 2023 19:42:55 GMT
I've decided that I'm going to see what Lindsey wants to do with the MX-5 - be that tart it up for another few years or replace it for something that will suit both of us, I don't know.
Spotted a SLC at the pub tonight and that seemed a nice looking car. No idea what they are like dynamically but the AMG V6 looks interesting.
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Post by woofwoof on Jun 17, 2023 12:15:50 GMT
I love my MX5. It'll be a hard day for me when it has to go.
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