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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 16:33:20 GMT
There are several interviews with locals that stated "Two loud bangs" prior to the aicraft entering a 'flat spin' and departing controled flight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 22:34:24 GMT
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Post by Alex on Aug 25, 2023 22:51:29 GMT
That's nothing new. It's a time honoured trick that defensive forces play to divert enemy fire away from real targets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 10:16:30 GMT
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Post by johnc on Sept 1, 2023 10:31:13 GMT
There is only one solution to all of this nonsense but it requires a brave Russian to do it. Leaders who are feeling the pressure become more and more paranoid as time goes on. Unfortunately this leader is a one trick pony when it comes to how he deals with perceived threats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 21:00:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 1:30:57 GMT
Why did the Russian space scinetist die of mushroom poisoning?
Because they were in a window box.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 20:55:26 GMT
The first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 14:29:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 22:49:01 GMT
War on the west. Some Russians are insistent on starting a new war. Is one not enough?
Ukrainian strikes on Ruaaisan navy.
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Post by johnc on Sept 14, 2023 8:01:40 GMT
Is this guy one of those who is trying to convince the population of Russia that the west is full of Nazis to avoid doing a free fall from a high rise or has the propaganda machine finally convinced the majority in Russia that they are under attack from the West.
What can the Russian hierarchy possibly think they will achieve with all this nonsense. Just go back home, save the lives of your young men and live peacefully. It really isn't hard.
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Post by alf on Sept 14, 2023 13:17:10 GMT
This says it all really! While Youtube and other platforms are flooded with fake-news channels (mostly Rusian/Chinese but also Malaysian/Indian and others) reporting with massive bravado about the success of Russian weapons systems and the failure of Western ones, the true story is very much the reverse. I saw some crappy Youtube channel trying to pretend to be an independent military news channel claiming that something like 48 storm shadows had been shot down. In fact independent experts have assessed zero have been, at least one failed and landed in a field intact. That's it. This latest attack on the ship and submarine in Crimea appears to be 2 or 3 storm shadows landing successfully, shielded as usual by some low grade drones and so on (which are the additional more numerous missiles the Russians claim shot down. That's what they are there for). Storm Shadow was designed from the 1990's, the bigger HIMARS rocket that might be deployed (ATACMS) from the 80's. Storm Shadow is getting through with incredible precision, I've seen bridges struck in the exact centre of the road or railway. The newest Russian kit is being shot down regularly and also has very large failure %'s which are getting worse as they struggle to find the right semiconductors. My point being, HIMARS and Storm Shadow are causing them massive headaches, they are worried about F-16's, there are whole generations of kit to come after that if they poke NATO too hard. Much of what is being used now would be going end of life soon anyway. Wait until they see the newer stuff (or the result of it anyway)............... For all their posturing I doubt they are any more likely to provoke NATO than I am to climb the fence in a zoo and poke a Grizzly bear in the eye. It would lead to the same result...
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Post by Tim on Sept 15, 2023 7:43:51 GMT
The end of life is a good point - as I understand it most of what Ukraine have been receiving has been sitting on shelves for 20-30 years and is just about due to be disposed of. Ironically it appears to be cheaper to ship it across to the Ukrainians and let them fire it at the Russkis than it does to dispose of safely in the UK!
Perhaps we should send the Russians a few more old airliners as well, they can't all manage to land safely in a field with no injuries!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 19:29:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 14:53:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 19:28:31 GMT
There are apparently argumnents over mine or ATGM. I think mine as there is no sign of an ATGM in flight.
That will NOT buff out.
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