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Post by garry on Jan 28, 2022 15:05:15 GMT
Now gone on sale. Figures look interesting Co2 18g/km and electric only range of 70miles. If that second figure is official it puts the car in the 5% bik tax bracket.
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Post by Martin on Jan 28, 2022 15:11:40 GMT
Now gone on sale. Figures look interesting Co2 18g/km and electric only range of 70miles. If that second figure is official it puts the car in the 5% bik tax bracket. They say ‘up to’ 70 miles, I don’t think that will be the official figure as they’ve mentioned 40 miles as a real world range. If the configurator is right, which isn’t a given, the 440e doesn’t get the full fat air suspension with active anti roll, add that in and it’s cheaper to just buy the 510e. Doesn’t even need man maths. |
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Post by johnc on Jan 28, 2022 15:19:52 GMT
For the company car driver it will all be about the WLTP electric range. The problem might be that the range falls as soon as you put the big wheels and a few other extras on it but even so 8% BIK for the next few years is pretty attractive to someone who has been paying tax on a Benefit in Kind of £30K and is coming out of any of the Range Rover ICE only variants.
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Post by garry on Jan 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 28, 2022 22:15:03 GMT
As I said elsewhere, the 70miles will be based on the WLTP defined route and driving styles. That includes hybrid charging over the course of the route and is in effect a percentage of electric-only driving on the defined route. So the charge meter will never show more than about 40 miles but if you set the trip meter at the start of a journey with full charge you will end the journey and if it’s long enough see that over the course of the drive the car was running in electric-only mode for more than the 40 miles it said at the start.
Mine never shows more than 20miles of electric-range despite the 34mile claim so that’s a good measure of what the WLTP measure is all about. Granted my driving is all in heavy traffic, with all manner of things activated (seat heating, steering wheel heating, air con etc.) but having driven it at zero electric range I still manage plenty of miles in electric. So when I drive into Central London I use petrol only until West Hill then switch to hybrid, meaning a day driving in town is possible on electric only. I’m also one of the few 530e drivers I’ve ever seen charge their car regularly with most just using hybrid running and taking whatever charge they get whilst driving, which kind of loses the point of giving them a tax break to opt for one. If I were a fleet manager I’d ask to see their BMW monthly charging report and start a regime of penalties for non-charging where possible.
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Post by johnc on Jan 29, 2022 5:52:47 GMT
Any manufacturer who can produce an executive SUV with a WLTP electric range in excess of 70 miles is going to clean up in that sector. It's not just the huge reduction in the benefit in kind that is attractive - all large companies now need to provide environmental and emission statistics and a Range Rover or similar which now officially kicks out 15 or 20g of CO2 per km is going to make a big dent in the fleet emissions compared to an ICE version with CO2 emissions well north of 200g/km.
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Post by cbeaks1 on Jan 29, 2022 11:15:01 GMT
Is isn’t witchcraft though, just a fecking huge battery. The efficiency is unsurprisingly very bad.
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Post by Martin on Jan 29, 2022 12:26:51 GMT
Is isn’t witchcraft though, just a fecking huge battery. The efficiency is unsurprisingly very bad. Yep, just under 40kwh battery and 40 miles of real world range. If you’re not on an EV tariff (which I’m not sure would be cheaper overall anyway) or have access to free charging, that’s going to make electric running more expensive than a D350. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 29, 2022 22:13:57 GMT
Hopefully they have learnt from the Evoque which they sold as 40mile electric range for 8% tax but before delivery changed to 34miles costing me £70 a month tax.
That said it shows 34miles range on the 14kw battery and when it was working that is what we got....it would do the 31mile round trip to Notts on pure EV....one day the HV heater will be in stock and it will work again.
It is currently back in the dealer having shat a driveshaft bearing!😳
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Post by garry on Jan 30, 2022 8:14:29 GMT
Hopefully they have learnt from the Evoque which they sold as 40mile electric range for 8% tax but before delivery changed to 34miles costing me £70 a month tax. That said it shows 34miles range on the 14kw battery and when it was working that is what we got....it would do the 31mile round trip to Notts on pure EV....one day the HV heater will be in stock and it will work again. It is currently back in the dealer having shat a driveshaft bearing!😳 choose the wrong wheels on the new Range Rover and you’ll jump up a bik tax bracket. |
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Post by bryan on Jan 30, 2022 21:31:09 GMT
I downgraded my wheels from 20" to 18" to get the 40mile range then a few weeks before delivery they reclassified them all to 34 miles, so I could of had the 20" after all....still it rides well!
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