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Post by PetrolEd on May 22, 2023 19:31:12 GMT
So whats the difference between OLED, ULED and QLED and which is better?
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Post by clunes on May 22, 2023 19:51:07 GMT
To answer properly would take a lot of words so super high summary:
ULED - proprietary tech / brand from Hisense.
QLED - proprietary tech / brand from Samsung that uses tiny dots (quantum dots) through which the backlight passes to light the pixels. I think fair to say considered far better than the ‘older’ ULED due to the better lighting and control over contrast
Both the above are conventional LCD backlit panels but as tech progresses the number of ‘zones’ lighting the screen increase which means better control over dark vs light areas of a picture.
OLED - key difference is that every individual pixel can emit its own light so you can have a black (off) pixel right next to a bright white one (or other colour) so the contrast can be controlled far better with no ‘bleeding’ of light between pixels.
There are still pros/cons between the two technologies but the main one is how bright the TVs can get - OLED cannot match QLED in this regard but overall have the ‘best’ picture quality
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Post by Roadrunner on May 23, 2023 12:35:37 GMT
I have read some glowing reports on the Philips OLED 907 range, available in 48, 55 and 65 screen size. Another big advantage (for me) is that they don't carry the 'Made in China' badge of shame www.richersounds.com/philips-55oled907.html
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 12:39:15 GMT
I have read some glowing reports on the Philips OLED 907 range, available in 48, 55 and 65 screen size. Another big advantage (for me) is that they don't carry the 'Made in China' badge of shame www.richersounds.com/philips-55oled907.htmlThe Philips get very good reviews - especially where sound is concerned - but at over 2x the price I can get the Samsung S95 or LGC2 it's not even on the radar (the cheaper 807 model has great reviews also but is still hundreds more (edited - previously said over 1000 more) than I can pickup the other sets which are equally good in terms of picture if not sound)
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Post by Martin on May 23, 2023 13:10:11 GMT
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 14:12:49 GMT
I have a basic sound bar from a couple of years back www.whathifi.com/q-acoustics/media-4/review but can't justify anything newer/additional spend at this time (to be fair the TV alone is probably a bit frivolous but it's been on the 'new house list' for a long time!) Richer Sounds has a refurb LG for 1299 but that only has 12 months full guarantee. Oxford Sevenoaks sound and vision have an ex display which comes with full 5 year warranty etc (not sure how / if this differs from the Hughes guarantee) for the same price which is tempting and not too far a drive. Will keep eyes peeled
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Post by Martin on May 23, 2023 14:27:58 GMT
Important to get this stuff on the list, the TV/Soundbar went into the budget before the furniture......and wasn't cut when scope and budget creep started to go a bit crazy.
I'm sure you've been through the same, it's really difficult when you spend a chunk of money and do a big project to trim things back even when you get unpleasant surprises. If you're going to do it, do it right..... even when you know it's taking money out of your new car budget, which is the most painful thing!
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May 23, 2023 14:58:04 GMT
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 14:58:04 GMT
Important to get this stuff on the list, the TV/Soundbar went into the budget before the furniture......and wasn't cut when scope and budget creep started to go a bit crazy. I'm sure you've been through the same, it's really difficult when you spend a chunk of money and do a big project to trim things back even when you get unpleasant surprises. If you're going to do it, do it right..... even when you know it's taking money out of your new car budget, which is the most painful thing! Lol. To be fair we haven’t had to cut back much. We still went high end on the stuff you see / touch (taps/tiles/silicone render/flooring etc) and this is less about budget creep but more about justifying (to myself) the value (we spent a lot of money so far on the rebuild so a good soundbar is fraction of a % territory) but until we sell my partners house and get a few other things sorted I’m trying to be a little more cautious. I haven’t set the new car budget but the good news there is that the boss doesn’t care - as long as we can afford it (and if I sold my company shares I could buy something nice!) and she likes it then that’s fine. I’m the one who is more careful and am trying to push more into ensuring we can retire whilst still able to enjoy it I’ve also massively upped my pension contributions to offset some tax issues so cash flow is going to be tight hence me overthinking the little things. Edited to sound slightly less like an over privileged idiot - apologies
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Post by Martin on May 23, 2023 15:39:56 GMT
It didn't come across that way, but please don't share numbers again as it makes me feel bad....we've spent 70% of that and only added a room/replaced a kitchen...and I can't blame it on the quality of finishes as you've done the same! (we have done a bit more than that, as decorating/flooring did spread into the rest of the house) We haven't cut back either, only added and upgraded things from the original plan, but we would only have regretted it if we hadn't. I set the new car budget a while ago, it's a bit smaller now after the extra work plus buying the MINI and I don't want to dip into my shares or ISAs, so it's the part exchange value + free cash only. I'm really starting to think about being better prepared for retirement now, my total pension contributions are 40% more than they were in January after a couple of changes, but still a very long way to go to get to the pot I'd need to retire early!
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Post by Andy C on May 23, 2023 15:53:54 GMT
OLED is still the best picture I've seen from a TV. QLED, ULED call it what you want, but no LED still can't match OLED (IMO). Mine is 6 years old now, so doesn't have the latest panels that go even brighter, but mine is fine in a living room which is reasonably bright in the day time. When it comes to sound, I still have a Q Acoustics Media 4 soundbar thats brilliant for the money. Ok no surround but it does a great job in boosting the TV's poor speakers. Would love this however www.avforums.com/reviews/samsung-hw-q990b-soundbar-review.19742/
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 16:18:28 GMT
OLED is still the best picture I've seen from a TV. QLED, ULED call it what you want, but no LED still can't match OLED (IMO). Mine is 6 years old now, so doesn't have the latest panels that go even brighter, but mine is fine in a living room which is reasonably bright in the day time. When it comes to sound, I still have a Q Acoustics Media 4 soundbar thats brilliant for the money. Ok no surround but it does a great job in boosting the TV's poor speakers. Would love this however www.avforums.com/reviews/samsung-hw-q990b-soundbar-review.19742/I have the same Q Acoustics job that will do for now. Agree OLED still rules the roost and now I have settled on 65" I will definitely go for OLED - just keen to secure a 'bargain' - I'm a big over researcher in general but it does pay dividends in some areas (I got some great deals for the house as an example)! Rear speakers are probably tricky in our space though so long term I think it would have to be a front + sub type affair
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 16:30:06 GMT
It didn't come across that way, but please don't share numbers again as it makes me feel bad....we've spent 70% of that and only added a room/replaced a kitchen...and I can't blame it on the quality of finishes as you've done the same! (we have done a bit more than that, as decorating/flooring did spread into the rest of the house) We haven't cut back either, only added and upgraded things from the original plan, but we would only have regretted it if we hadn't. I set the new car budget a while ago, it's a bit smaller now after the extra work plus buying the MINI and I don't want to dip into my shares or ISAs, so it's the part exchange value + free cash only. I'm really starting to think about being better prepared for retirement now, my total pension contributions are 40% more than they were in January after a couple of changes, but still a very long way to go to get to the pot I'd need to retire early! That figure is not the total unfortunately - but we've done well keeping things on track (albeit a LOT more than originally planned 4 years ago). I agree that if you're doing this to build a home and not for business/profit it's important to do it right. I've no doubt had we chosen other options we would be replacing things a few years down the road which would result in greater cost overall. Re: Pension - prior to my divorce I never really gave it a lot of thought - I put in the % that the company would match (I put in 3% the company 8%) and forgot about it but as I've got older and my mindset has changed I recognise the need to shift. I drained all my easy access savings for the house build so am now having to 'rebuild' that. Additional pension (personal contribution up 8x and total contributions up adding up to 2.70x) and I am over-invested in my company (the share price has done next to nothing for far too many years) so am likely going to shift some into an ISA that will at least give relatively consistent growth potential but like you, a very long way to go before we could consider anything like early retirement.
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Post by Martin on May 23, 2023 16:49:27 GMT
I need a decent financial advisor really as things are a lot more complicated than they used to be for a number of reasons. I’m fairly sensible with money and savings, the only debt is my mortgage and one thing I’ve always done (apart from a few years after getting divorced) is keep 6 months joint net salary tucked away for a rainy day. I do want to enjoy the results of all the hard work now rather than just save for the future though, I guess that balance will shift a bit as I get older, but there isn’t much scope to do that tax efficiently with pension allowances etc. Back to my point about needing a financial advisor.
Sorry, miles off topic now! The answer to the question is keep an eye out for 65C2 deals, but as it’s discontinued don’t leave it too long and miss out!
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Post by clunes on May 23, 2023 16:53:14 GMT
I need a decent financial advisor really as things are a lot more complicated than they used to be for a number of reasons. I’m fairly sensible with money and savings, the only debt is my mortgage and one thing I’ve always done (apart from a few years after getting divorced) is keep 6 months joint net salary tucked away for a rainy day. I do want to enjoy the results of all the hard work now rather than just save for the future though, I guess that balance will shift a bit as I get older, but there isn’t much scope to do that tax efficiently with pension allowances etc. Back to my point about needing a financial advisor. Sorry, miles off topic now! The answer to the question is keep an eye out for 65C2 deals, but as it’s discontinued don’t leave it too long and miss out! Thanks for dragging it back on topic - 100% agree - am sure there will be a 65C2 in the house soon
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Post by Andy C on Jun 6, 2023 9:12:09 GMT
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Post by clunes on Jun 6, 2023 10:38:53 GMT
Reads like the usual 'incrementally better than before' and a match for the S95C than which is entirely expected.
But...I already have a 65"LG C2 as I got a good deal on a run out and had some vouchers I could use against it so the outlay from my bank account was <1000 - no matter how much better the G3 I couldn't justify the price difference at this time (over 2x the list price I paid and over 3x the real outlay) and was not prepared to wait until next years discounts so will have to 'settle'
Happy with the C2 so far. Reflection handling is probably the worst aspect during the day as it's definitely worse than my old Sony but it couldn't be in a more difficult room right now (6m of south facing glass 90% to the TV) but that will be solved once I sort out blinds.
Brightness is ok during the day if using the 'Bright room' setting and in the evening the brightness is fine - even in Filmaker mode where it's not nearly as 'punchy'
Overall am happy with the C2 and in 5+ years I might consider whatever the next wizz-bang model is on a good deal at the time!
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Post by Roadrunner on Oct 12, 2023 15:10:53 GMT
Thread resurrection. I have been keeping an eye on the Philips OLED907 range (which I referred to above) and saw that it is about to be replaced by a new model. Straight onto Richer Sounds and I have bagged one of the last pre-facelift ones available for around £900. Arrives in a couple of days.
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Dec 27, 2023 14:23:07 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Dec 27, 2023 14:23:07 GMT
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 27, 2023 19:17:16 GMT
That looks a god deal. Worth checking what Richer Sounds have as well.
I am massively impressed with my new Philips OLED907 TV.
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Dec 28, 2023 14:55:30 GMT
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Post by clunes on Dec 28, 2023 14:55:30 GMT
I can get that model (I think) for a little less outlay through my perks at work discounts which comes out at £1119.20 (based on a 20% discount of the Samsung site price of £1499.99)
I as mentioned above I went for the LG OLED but at times I would benefit from the additional brightness of the QLED panels - (I’m very happy with my purchase though). I did pick up a Samsung soundbar & sub combo on a good discount though which is excellent and would be even better paired with the Samsung model
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Dec 28, 2023 19:30:17 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Dec 28, 2023 19:30:17 GMT
I’d go Oled if you can , although that Samsung does seem a great deal
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Post by Martin on Jan 2, 2024 8:51:37 GMT
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