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Post by racingteatray on Apr 6, 2020 19:37:07 GMT
This had me frantically googling what happens if the worst happens and he croaks.
Evidently not just me - I had typed no more than "who ta" and google correctly filled the rest of my request in...
Apparently it's not set in stone that it would be British Psycho Dominic Raab.
Which is all I needed reassuring about. Although Michael Gove would be pretty awful too, albeit that PMQs between Gove and Starmer could be sparky.
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Post by michael on Apr 6, 2020 20:05:59 GMT
I guess my first instinct is unusual in that I wish him well and that my thoughts are with his pregnant fiancé.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 20:41:55 GMT
+1. No hierarchy with this bastard.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 6, 2020 21:29:56 GMT
It sickens me the glee with which some people have reacted to this news. What have we become?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 22:07:02 GMT
There have long been these types of people, I think the explosion of the internet has allowed them more of a voice. Still sickening.
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 6, 2020 22:21:42 GMT
I guess my first instinct is unusual in that I wish him well and that my thoughts are with his pregnant fiancé. Beautifully sanctimonious statement. I too hope he recovers - I wouldn't wish this on anyone. But my first thought was more along the lines of realising that as much as I don't greatly care for Boris as PM, many of the potential alternatives in his cabinet are far worse.
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Post by PG on Apr 7, 2020 7:36:01 GMT
It sickens me the glee with which some people have reacted to this news. What have we become? +1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 7:40:28 GMT
It'd have been no different if it were Corbyn, though. Possibly more welcomed by some members of his party...
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Post by johnc on Apr 7, 2020 9:09:59 GMT
I have a couple of "friends" on Facebook (one from school and one an insolvency practitioner who used to get any referrals I had) who are both ardent supporters of a certain national party. They have been posting disgusting things applauding the PM's illness and demise. They have both been unfriended. The one thing the UK needs at the moment is some stability and if anything happens to the PM, what little stability we have will come under great pressure: for his and all our sakes I hope he makes a full and quick recovery otherwise I can't see this being a good outcome for anyone.
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Post by Martin on Apr 7, 2020 9:14:00 GMT
I have a couple of "friends" on Facebook (one from school and one an insolvency practitioner who used to get any referrals I had) who are both ardent supporters of a certain national party. They have been posting disgusting things applauding the PM's illness and demise. They have both been unfriended. The one thing the UK needs at the moment is some stability and if anything happens to the PM, what little stability we have will come under great pressure: for his and all our sakes I hope he makes a full and quick recovery otherwise I can't see this being a good outcome for anyone. I just don't get it, Bob is right, it's sickening.
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Post by PetrolEd on Apr 7, 2020 9:53:42 GMT
I get it if your stuck in a some bedsit in a dead end town that was once vibrant before good ol' Mrs T decimated the place and all you have to blame is the Tory party for your misery. I don't believe it but can comprehend why what I hope is a tiny number of folk still think this way. If nothings changed in the last 40 years then neither is the attitude.
I really hope Boris pulls through, for Boris, his family and I think it'll be some great positive news that we've had very little of over the last few weeks and a success story the NHS can be proud of. Going forward of course, the PM of this great nation of ours being saved by the NHS will hopefully have the payback in terms of funding and improvements within the health sector for years to come.
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 7, 2020 10:04:36 GMT
I have a couple of "friends" on Facebook (one from school and one an insolvency practitioner who used to get any referrals I had) who are both ardent supporters of a certain national party. They have been posting disgusting things applauding the PM's illness and demise. They have both been unfriended. The one thing the UK needs at the moment is some stability and if anything happens to the PM, what little stability we have will come under great pressure: for his and all our sakes I hope he makes a full and quick recovery otherwise I can't see this being a good outcome for anyone. I just don't get it, Bob is right, it's sickening. The sickening thing is that anyone allows politics (sic) to transcend basic humanity. I am far from an ardent fan of Boris, or the Tories as a whole, but I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. (Having said that, there's always IDS and Piers Morgan - for them I may make an exception!) I get it if your stuck in a some bedsit in a dead end town that was once vibrant before good ol' Mrs T decimated the place and all you have to blame is the Tory party for your misery. I don't believe it but can comprehend why what I hope is a tiny number of folk still think this way. If nothings changed in the last 40 years then neither is the attitude. I really hope Boris pulls through, for Boris, his family and I think it'll be some great positive news that we've had very little of over the last few weeks and a success story the NHS can be proud of. Going forward of course, the PM of this great nation of ours being saved by the NHS will hopefully have the payback in terms of funding and improvements within the health sector for years to come. One (somewhat forlorn, it has to be said) hope I have, as do many of my colleagues, is that Boris will finally fully appreciate the NHS. The cynical part of me wonders if the choice of an NHS hospital was a deliberate, political one; I would have assumed Boris to be BUPA'd up to the eyeballs .. .. ..
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 7, 2020 10:15:46 GMT
One (somewhat forlorn, it has to be said) hope I have, as do many of my colleagues, is that Boris will finally fully appreciate the NHS. The cynical part of me wonders if the choice of an NHS hospital was a deliberate, political one; I would have assumed Boris to be BUPA'd up to the eyeballs .. .. .. I think you are being cynical there - St. Thomas' is the closest hospital and the best equipped. I'm not sure anyone is using their BUPA medical insurance if they are diagnosed with Covid 19 - even if they were equipped for it.
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Post by johnc on Apr 7, 2020 10:20:57 GMT
Clients of mine who do plenty of work in private hospitals have stopped all treatments - the private hospitals have been placed on standby to help the NHS and the consultants are now working 12 hr shifts so they may not have the inclination to do private work in any case.
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Post by Tim on Apr 7, 2020 10:41:59 GMT
Good luck to Boris, I wouldn't wish the virus on anybody (and fervently hope I avoid it too).
No-one should be surprised at people wishing Boris ill, as Mike says the internet allows people to say this stuff with no comeback. Plus as others have said the alternatives might be a lot worse, in the same way that we should all really hope nothing happens to Trump because he'd be replaced by a right wing evangelical zealot.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 10:44:05 GMT
Not sure there are many, if any, doctors working purely private, most of the staff you talk about do shifts in both as it is an easy earner for a consultant who is seen to be supervising his team even if he is in a different facility.
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Post by Tim on Apr 7, 2020 10:51:29 GMT
Not sure there are many, if any, doctors working purely private, most of the staff you talk about do shifts in both as it is an easy earner for a consultant who is seen to be supervising his team even if he is in a different facility. Mrs Tim works on the exam assessment side of a university that offers a medical degree and all of the GPs, consultants, etc who work part time in medicine and part time at the uni have now gone full time back to their medical jobs.
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Post by PG on Apr 7, 2020 10:53:01 GMT
I too hope he makes a full recovery. And gets the chance to lead the country into better days than these.
I am sure that the NHS will get more funding after this period. But I fervently hope that it does not become even more of a sacred cow in the process. It - and the Dept of Health - do need reform - as evidenced at the lack of preparedness and inability to move fast when required, like for testing. Like all monolithic organisations, the pace of any movement is glacially slow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 10:58:04 GMT
" Mrs Tim works on the exam assessment side of a university that offers a medical degree and all of the GPs, consultants, etc who work part time in medicine and part time at the uni have now gone full time back to their medical jobs".
I was talking about 'normal' times, whatever they are.......
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Post by racingteatray on Apr 7, 2020 11:06:20 GMT
Good luck to Boris, I wouldn't wish the virus on anybody (and fervently hope I avoid it too). No-one should be surprised at people wishing Boris ill, as Mike says the internet allows people to say this stuff with no comeback. Plus as others have said the alternatives might be a lot worse, in the same way that we should all really hope nothing happens to Trump because he'd be replaced by a right wing evangelical zealot..... This was my point.
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 7, 2020 11:09:53 GMT
One (somewhat forlorn, it has to be said) hope I have, as do many of my colleagues, is that Boris will finally fully appreciate the NHS. The cynical part of me wonders if the choice of an NHS hospital was a deliberate, political one; I would have assumed Boris to be BUPA'd up to the eyeballs .. .. .. I think you are being cynical there - St. Thomas' is the closest hospital and the best equipped. I'm not sure anyone is using their BUPA medical insurance if they are diagnosed with Covid 19 - even if they were equipped for it. I fully admit that I am cynical; I also admit I have precisely zero clue about St. Thomas' or where it's located in relation to Boris' location when he was admitted.
As for the BUPA comment, and the replies by others, I am fully aware of who it is who staff private hospitals on both medical and nursing fronts thanks.
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Post by Alex on Apr 7, 2020 11:15:23 GMT
I really hope Boris pulls through, for Boris, his family and I think it'll be some great positive news that we've had very little of over the last few weeks and a success story the NHS can be proud of. Going forward of course, the PM of this great nation of ours being saved by the NHS will hopefully have the payback in terms of funding and improvements within the health sector for years to come. As much as I also wish him well and hope he pulls through, it doesn't look or sound too hopeful right now. I almost think that him surviving could prolong the pandemic in this country, especially if he rushes back to work, because more of the idiots who are not taking it seriously will continue to blithely see it as nothing to worry about. If the virus kills our PM the country, and indeed the world, really will have to sit up and take notice.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 7, 2020 11:22:47 GMT
I think you are being cynical there - St. Thomas' is the closest hospital and the best equipped. I'm not sure anyone is using their BUPA medical insurance if they are diagnosed with Covid 19 - even if they were equipped for it. I fully admit that I am cynical; I also admit I have precisely zero clue about St. Thomas' or where it's located in relation to Boris' location when he was admitted.
As for the BUPA comment, and the replies by others, I am fully aware of who it is who staff private hospitals on both medical and nursing fronts thanks.
St Thomas' is the hospital that featured in the 2002 film 28 Days Later in which the hospital was abandoned due to the nationwide outbreak of a deadly virus which causes its victims to go insane....
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Post by Tim on Apr 7, 2020 11:30:54 GMT
I fully admit that I am cynical; I also admit I have precisely zero clue about St. Thomas' or where it's located in relation to Boris' location when he was admitted.
As for the BUPA comment, and the replies by others, I am fully aware of who it is who staff private hospitals on both medical and nursing fronts thanks.
St Thomas' is the hospital that featured in the 2002 film 28 Days Later in which the hospital was abandoned due to the nationwide outbreak of a deadly virus which causes its victims to go insane.... I think the news last night said that St Thomas' is just across the river from Parliament so its his local.
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Post by Martin on Apr 7, 2020 11:57:05 GMT
It’s been reported that he isn’t on a ventilator, so that’s positive.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 7, 2020 12:22:52 GMT
It’s been reported that he isn’t on a ventilator, so that’s positive. They should put him on one of those Dyson ones. I'm sure he'd go on to pick up nicely.
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Post by Blarno on Apr 7, 2020 12:38:28 GMT
Clients of mine who do plenty of work in private hospitals have stopped all treatments - the private hospitals have been placed on standby to help the NHS and the consultants are now working 12 hr shifts so they may not have the inclination to do private work in any case. This is exactly what my wife's hospital is doing. They cleared out any surgeries in progress, then cancelled any elective and none urgent surgeries and are now taking in the backlog of regular NHS surgeries from Warrington General.
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Post by Big Blue on Apr 7, 2020 13:06:07 GMT
St Thomas' is the hospital that featured in the 2002 film 28 Days Later in which the hospital was abandoned due to the nationwide outbreak of a deadly virus which causes its victims to go insane.... I think the news last night said that St Thomas' is just across the river from Parliament so its his local. St Thomas' is on the South Side of Westminster Bridge, the furthest entrance from the bridge being about 1/3 of the way to Lambeth Bridge. From Downing Street it's two minutes with Blues and Twos. I think we're all aware that as far as nursing care is concerned Boris is in an NHS hospital. As far as consultant and specialist care is concerned it would make no odds whether he was in an NHS Hospital or a Private one (or private ward in an NHS facility): the same consultant would be billing a different organisation. This is one of those things that irritates but is a factor of the free health market.
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Post by Martin on Apr 8, 2020 11:06:20 GMT
It’s been reported that he isn’t on a ventilator, so that’s positive. So taking an intensive care bed just in case then? I’m pretty sure there’s more to an intensive care bed than just a ventilator, a lot more monitoring equipment for a start.
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