Say goodbye to your cars.

It's all horseshit anyway. They indoctrinate us into thinking we're doing the planet harm by driving our cars so that we all pay our "green" taxes like good little ants and the BBC, which is run by Icke's lizard people (probably), just helps hammer home how fucking terrible we all are and how they're the good guys by trying to save us from ourselves.

Look up a guy called Joe Bastardi and see what he has to say on the matter.

The two biggest problems this planet has that are man made are deforestation and water pollution from plastic but they can't tax us for those, so they tell us we shouldn't have a car instead and if we do want one we'll have to pay them handsomely for the privilege.

I note it says we should move away from car ownership to car "usership" and suggests that instead of driving we take a taxi. Erm, how is that different from driving yourself? I suppose I could walk the 10 miles to work, then walk back at 3am after a late shift.

20 years from now, I suspect most of us won't be able to afford a car. Meanwhile, other forms of pollution will be rife as they won't have been legislated against. Here's my current ranty example of utter energy wastefulness: My local Aldi is so cold inside from the open fridges that it's uncomfortable shopping in shorts and a T shirt and the beers I bought (from the opposite side of the shop, not in a fridge) were pleasantly cool enough to drink when I got home. How stupidly wasteful is that? That kind of thing really needs clamping down on. Shops that run their AC at full blast and have the front doors wide open on a hot day are another annoyance. Yet, somehow, it's us individuals who are responsible, despite watching our own home energy usage and buying more fuel efficient cars.

I had a bit of a row with my brother the other week after he and his wife went into full preachy mode about eating less meat and using less plastic. He made such a big deal of how we have to change our lifestyles, become more energy efficient, use less electricity and fuel, etc. True. I don't disagree. But he didn't like it when I pointed out that they had made the decision to move out of Glasgow and now commute, some days in two cars, to the city, an hour or more in each direction and how was that refucing emissions? This was also after he'd been talking earlier in the day about getting a much higher performance motor.

Anyway, the government will no doubt jump on the report, see it as a means to tax and control and we're all fucked, basically.

I read that Williams article with interest. Proper clever stuff. Supermarkets, however, need to be jumped on for energy wastage, amongst other things - don't even get me started on the continued use of non-recylable plastic and over-packaging. Their efforts are simply nowhere near good enough.

I'm happy with my lightly used V8 and i'll make up for that by putting the lights out and keeping the house a degree cooler.

But prepackaged foods last longer. Fruit and veg is different, but I still see no need to overpackage some foods, no have doorless (air clever aero-less) fridges.

Supermarkets say we are changing the way we shop, moving away from the large weekly shop towards more popping in to smaller, local shops to buy what we need for dinner that night (you mean like our mums/grans did?) so surely this reduces the need for packaging designed to keep food fresh for so long?

That said, when the supermarkets tried not packing bananas in bags and just left them loose in bunches, they ended up with a pile of single bananas as people ripped off what they didn't need and discarded them. Most of the single bananas went to waste.

If it weren't for technology, we wouldn't know that we are polluting the planet.
There is usually some negative aspect to every step of progress that we make, just a shame that more people cannot see the wider picture

I know its a well-worn example but why is it that I can still walk into my local supermarket and buy apples that have been flown in from New Zealand?
It's not as if they're not a scarce product or that we don't grow apples in the UK.

Did you see that idea on the BBC that private citizens be encouraged to photograph offending idlers in return for a share of the fine? They already run the scheme in New York and people there have quit their day job and just spend their time filming and reporting idling vehicles for a share of the profits. Fines range from $100 to $2000 depending on how near to schools etc the vehicle is. I can see that going down well here..

I've worked in places before where at lunchtime, some folk go out to their cars to eat their sandwich or whatever, and start and leave the engine running the whole time they are in the car. One good starting point to cut down on emissions is to ban that activity, however we are supposed to live in a "free country".....

If there is any 'justice', millions. Normal service means someone laughing or the sound of their jaws hitting the floor when they realise what Rodney's they all are. Just a thought, how long does a change of traffic lights take? Are the engines on? Is THAT idling? How many of us will they be able to fleece for that?

I didn't see that but it sounds like a recipe for roadside punch ups.

Oooh

Got a good one today - lady in a Bentley Continental Convertible - was on the phone with car idling when I walked past in one direction and then about 10 mins late as I walked back past her she was still there with car idling.

The cherry on the proverbial cake was that as I walked past she said to the person she was talking to ‘I’m literally living my best life right now’

With that and the Uber thing (see members only thread) surely I’m in for a big payout!!!

Stop having kids. That’s the only sure-fire way to solve the atmosphere crisis. They all breathe out, they all fart, they all eat the plants and animals and they all grow up wanting to be housed and travel. They’re a disgusting cause of the destruction of the environment.

I’ve got mine: I’ll stop now.