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Post by Big Blue on Dec 13, 2018 14:58:51 GMT
Rees-Mogg is on record as saying that in 50 years time we'll be much better off having been out of the EU. Of course to him 50 years ago is like the very recent past so 50 years hence is like tomorrow....
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 13, 2018 16:31:56 GMT
Rees-Mogg is on record as saying that in 50 years time we'll be much better off having been out of the EU. Of course to him 50 years ago is like the very recent past so 50 years hence is like tomorrow.... Are you suggesting he sleeps in a coffin?
It wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 13, 2018 18:28:43 GMT
Rees-Mogg is on record as saying that in 50 years time we'll be much better off having been out of the EU. Of course to him 50 years ago is like the very recent past so 50 years hence is like tomorrow.... Are you suggesting he sleeps in a coffin?
It wouldn't surprise me.
A friend described him yesterday as a "demented, undead penguin". I had to point out that penguins are, essentially, fairly benign creatures. Mind you I'm not sure he hasn't nailed it really!
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 13, 2018 18:37:25 GMT
Oswald Cobblepot?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 19:46:22 GMT
I'm sure you're familiar with what has been said by the right -wing controlled media about JC(and lets be perfectly clear -they have a pathological hatred of him).I prefer to seek alternative views before deciding.
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Post by michael on Dec 13, 2018 20:01:25 GMT
What have you heard that you don’t believe?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 21:40:47 GMT
What have you heard that you don’t believe? The rubbish about him being a spy /anti-semite/terrorist sympathizer. I've read tabloids for over 40 yrs -so i have been down that path of being played to by their right-wing narrative
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Post by michael on Dec 13, 2018 21:42:38 GMT
The spy stuff was a load of rubbish but he is an anti-Semite and terrorist sympathiser as a matter of fact not opinion. It’s well documented.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 13, 2018 22:15:31 GMT
He’s also a fantasist and a complete cunt. If he manages to achieve power then we really are all fucked. Anyone with a business may as well shut up shop and emigrate as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by Martin on Dec 13, 2018 22:19:51 GMT
He’s also a fantasist and a complete cunt. If he manages to achieve power then we really are all fucked. Anyone with a business may as well shut up shop and emigrate as far as I’m concerned. +1. As I posted earlier, there are a lot of scary goings on at the moment, but Corbyn as PM would be the worst by far
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 13, 2018 22:21:15 GMT
What have you heard that you don’t believe? The rubbish about him being a spy /anti-semite/terrorist sympathizer. I've read tabloids for over 40 yrs -so i have been down that path of being played to by their right-wing narrative Even if I knew nothing at all about Corbyn, the fact that he would give Diane Abbott a place in Government makes him unfit to lead this country. Chuck in a Marxist Shadow Chancellor and you know we'd be fucked within a year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 23:41:05 GMT
Diane Abbot has no place in a Vicar's tea party let alone government. A smarmy self righteous, egotistical social climber with airs and graces that belie the puerile puss riddled toadying poison filled excuse for a human being bleep bleep bleepin' bleep. As for her 'fact finding missions' on the national credit card..............
Apart from that and a few books worth of flaws, a wonderful, thing.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 14, 2018 12:11:50 GMT
Diane Abbot has no place in a Vicar's tea party let alone government. A smarmy self righteous, egotistical social climber with airs and graces that belie the puerile puss riddled toadying poison filled excuse for a human being bleep bleep bleepin' bleep. As for her 'fact finding missions' on the national credit card.............. Apart from that and a few books worth of flaws, a wonderful, thing. For a minute there I thought you were still talking about Jacob Rees-Mogg.
Amazing how one could apply such a similar description to two ostensibly quite different people on different ends of the political spectrum.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 14:30:44 GMT
Well, they are both narcissistic nihilists (other people) with personality disorders bordering on the Hitleric. Nice otherwise tho'. The beeb news was suggesting that the whole Brexit thing was scuppered by remainer voting plebs behind the scenes who were hoping for another referendum and screwed the process up just for this purpose.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 14, 2018 16:32:37 GMT
What have you heard that you don’t believe? The rubbish about him being a spy /anti-semite/terrorist sympathizer. I've read tabloids for over 40 yrs -so i have been down that path of being played to by their right-wing narrative Corbyn is the type of anti-semite that hides behind a pro-Palestine agenda. There's nothing wrong with being pro-Palestine and actively promoting a peaceful settlement in the Middle East but he is very one sided to put it mildly. Like most racists say they have friends the are black, I bet he has friends that are Jewish.
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Post by Tim on Dec 14, 2018 16:59:59 GMT
He’s also a fantasist and a complete cunt. If he manages to achieve power then we really are all fucked. Anyone with a business may as well shut up shop and emigrate as far as I’m concerned.
Agree with that and would apply it to BoJo and Rees-Mogg among others.
ALL sides are a bunch of arseholes and surely the public deserve a new start after all this?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 17:06:12 GMT
THAT is the problem. Do we have to have our own revolution or shoot the lot?
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 14, 2018 18:11:39 GMT
He’s also a fantasist and a complete cunt. If he manages to achieve power then we really are all fucked. Anyone with a business may as well shut up shop and emigrate as far as I’m concerned.
Agree with that and would apply it to BoJo and Rees-Mogg among others.
ALL sides are a bunch of arseholes and surely the public deserve a new start after all this?
Yup. Not a fan of either of them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 20:04:09 GMT
I would not trust Corbyn to use the bathroom without forgetting something. There is something too evangelical and sentimentalist for far left teachings and he seems to completely miss that to create jobs, you need people willing to take the risk and people with the money to help them. Corbyn as leader would definitely level the playing field, we would ALL be paupers and begging in the streets. It may be hard to see this but frankly I do not see labour or the limp damp squibs being capable of governing a kindergarten with an unlimited budget. W"ithout the unlimited budget they think they would have by taxing everything up the yazoo they would destroy this country. Just how much debt did the blair witch team get us into? From being practically without debt.......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 20:09:09 GMT
I would not trust Corbyn to use the bathroom without forgetting something. There is something too evangelical and sentimentalist for far left teachings and he seems to completely miss that to create jobs, you need people willing to take the risk and people with the money to help them. Corbyn as leader would definitely level the playing field, we would ALL be paupers and begging in the streets. It may be hard to see this but frankly I do not see labour or the limp damp squibs being capable of governing a kindergarten with an unlimited budget. W"ithout the unlimited budget they think they would have by taxing everything up the yazoo they would destroy this country. Just how much debt did the blair witch team get us into? From being practically without debt....... Well,homelessness, food banks and street begging has massively increased -without JC's interference .As for blair , well a lot think he was just a Tory in disguise!
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 14, 2018 23:25:15 GMT
Sorry, but I’ve never read such a bunch of incoherent shite in my life. Battering and abusing the poor!? Fuck right off. Why the hell should I work to provide for the workshy fuckwits (sorry, underprivileged underclass who refuse to work). My family came from fuck all and achieved through the idealism promoted by Thatcher. The likes of JC can burn in hell.
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 15, 2018 8:35:24 GMT
Sorry, but I’ve never read such a bunch of incoherent shite in my life. Battering and abusing the poor!? Fuck right off. Why the hell should I work to provide for the workshy fuckwits (sorry, underprivileged underclass who refuse to work). My family came from fuck all and achieved through the idealism promoted by Thatcher. The likes of JC can burn in hell. Hear hear!
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Post by michael on Dec 15, 2018 9:43:12 GMT
On a completely unrelated note, I find that the block function is useful when dealing with the crushingly simple.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 19:53:52 GMT
Sorry, but I’ve never read such a bunch of incoherent shite in my life. Battering and abusing the poor!? Fuck right off. Why the hell should I work to provide for the workshy fuckwits (sorry, underprivileged underclass who refuse to work). My family came from fuck all and achieved through the idealism promoted by Thatcher. The likes of JC can burn in hell. Hear hear! Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 15, 2018 20:49:10 GMT
Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh Where did I describe all the poor as workshy fuckwits? There is an increasingly large percentage of underclass that see benefits as a right and not something to fall back on in a difficult time. I do have a problem with the hard left ideal of taxing those who work hard to earn and simply giving it away, funnily enough. I was too young, but the tax levels of the 70s would be unsustainable for a huge percentage of ordinary people. Typical left wing clap trap is to spend spend spend, rather than find ways of saving. I have absolutely no problem with the genuinely needy getting donations, I thought that would go without saying so stop being such a drama queen. I don’t give a shit either way about EV subsidies. The idea behind that is the environment rather than helping the rich to buy a car. Twisted right wing press narrative? I think you will find a lot the press in this country has very much a left bias - TV especially. I actually agree with you about large corporate tax avoiders. The problem is, that if you tax them as to how JC want to tax them then they will simply leave and there will be unemployment on a large scale. I was against the Iraq war. The celebration of the death of Thatcher is something that disgusts me and as much as I despise Corbyn, I wouldn’t celebrate his passing no matter how deluded he is. He wants out of Europe, but wants all the benefits that we had up to article 50 but doesn’t want to pay for them. He’s crackers. As for PR? I honestly don’t care. The block function is actually a means of avoiding seeing what a particular member writes should one wish. The only reason I would actually ban a member would be if they got too personal. You've read my political leanings incorrectly too. I’m pretty centrist, but again, as usual, the hard left see anyone who doesn’t agree with their mad ideals as evil Tory Scum.
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Post by scouse on Dec 15, 2018 20:49:42 GMT
Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh Grow the fuck up. Corbin is an antisemite. End of. He’s also a terrorist sympathiser, a liar and has no morals or principles that can’t be changed in his desire for power.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 15, 2018 20:51:53 GMT
Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh Grow the fuck up. Corbin is an antisemite. End of. He’s also a terrorist sympathiser, a liar and has no morals or principles that can’t be changed in his desire for power. That too!
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 15, 2018 21:06:16 GMT
Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh Grow the fuck up. Corbin is an antisemite. End of. He’s also a terrorist sympathiser, a liar and has no morals or principles that can’t be changed in his desire for power.So, like any other politician on earth in that respect then!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 21:18:59 GMT
Quite extraordinary, astonishing and shameful that you're prepared to label the poor as all workshy fuckwits - but then perhaps its not your fault if you've been pumped with the twisted right -wing press narrative . They're playing with your balls.Big time.Maybe, they do cost the billions - but what about all the Corporate tax avoiders who cost even more ? And i'm sure you're fine with the bankers who raped the Uk to the tune of 800 billion ? How much did illegal wars cost (and lives)? No doubt your piss would boil , if £ 5000 was given to help the needy , but you're perfectly fine with £5000 to help rich consumers buy a EV? Or £5 billion - amount paid in benefits to those with an income in excess of £100,000 ? Your pathological hated of JC means you've gone "full gammon" Tell you what , when JC dies i wonder how many will celebrate his death as they did with Thatcher ? Ironic it was Michael who said "Welcome back!" on my return (bet you regret that now hehe) Block ? lol - Your choice but ,bad PR tbh Where did I describe all the poor as workshy fuckwits? There is an increasingly large percentage of underclass that see benefits as a right and not something to fall back on in a difficult time. I do have a problem with the hard left ideal of taxing those who work hard to earn and simply giving it away, funnily enough. I was too young, but the tax levels of the 70s would be unsustainable for a huge percentage of ordinary people. Typical left wing clap trap is to spend spend spend, rather than find ways of saving. I have absolutely no problem with the genuinely needy getting donations, I thought that would go without saying so stop being such a drama queen. I don’t give a shit either way about EV subsidies. The idea behind that is the environment rather than helping the rich to buy a car. Twisted right wing press narrative? I think you will find a lot the press in this country has very much a left bias - TV especially. I actually agree with you about large corporate tax avoiders. The problem is, that if you tax them as to how JC want to tax them then they will simply leave and there will be unemployment on a large scale. I was against the Iraq war. The celebration of the death of Thatcher is something that disgusts me and as much as I despise Corbyn, I wouldn’t celebrate his passing no matter how deluded he is. He wants out of Europe, but wants all the benefits that we had up to article 50 but doesn’t want to pay for them. He’s crackers. As for PR? I honestly don’t care. The block function is actually a means of avoiding seeing what a particular member writes should one wish. The only reason I would actually ban a member would be if they got too personal. You've read my political leanings incorrectly too. I’m pretty centrist, but again, as usual, the hard left see anyone who doesn’t agree with their mad ideals as evil Tory Scum. And do you know who is pushing the leftie bbc bias ? right-wing commentators (surprisingly the same right -wing people who appear many times on Question Time.The BBC bias is mild by comparison to the tory loving print media -it is they who decide who will an Election .Okay , lets suppose the bbc -a very powerful organization is pushing a leftie agenda - then surely Labour would have been in powers years ago and the Remainers would have won ?Ergo
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