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Post by Mark on Mar 21, 2018 21:11:32 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Mar 21, 2018 21:22:14 GMT
Lovely - enjoy!
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Post by Boxer6 on Mar 21, 2018 22:12:53 GMT
That looks fantastic! Looking forward to lots more pics and your thoughts as time goes on. As Mark (TreVoR) says, "Enjoy!"
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Post by Sav on Mar 22, 2018 8:21:47 GMT
That looks terrific, especially in red. I really liked the Giulia at the local dealer. I thought the standard version would look disappointing compared to the Quadrifoglio. I was wrong, if anything, it looks better, I prefer the tail pipes. Great to see another relatively compact RWD saloon.
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Post by johnc on Mar 22, 2018 8:56:29 GMT
Congratulations. I have seen a few of these on the road now and it is a very well resolved design.
I hope you enjoy it. Is that the 280 ish HP 4 cylinder?
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Post by Martin on Mar 22, 2018 8:57:35 GMT
Looks good Mark. Enjoy!
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Post by Martin on Mar 22, 2018 8:58:05 GMT
Congratulations. I have seen a few of these on the road now and it is a very well resolved design.
I hope you enjoy it. Is that the 280 ish HP 4 cylinder? 5.5k red line = diesel?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 9:00:23 GMT
It's good that after all these years of promise, Alfa has finally delivered in a big way - very nice indeed.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 22, 2018 9:10:14 GMT
I must somehow have missed that this was coming, but looks very good indeed.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 22, 2018 10:01:08 GMT
Wow, very nice and well done for choosing something a little different from the norm. Its what I'd go for and seeing as the obvious 3 series depreciates like a stone now you don't even have that disadvantage with the Alfa.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 22, 2018 10:12:04 GMT
Very nice, I've seen a few of these on the roads and they make a welcome change from the ubiquitous 3 series.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 10:53:32 GMT
Looks good, enjoy.
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Post by Alex on Mar 22, 2018 10:55:37 GMT
That does look good, especially in red. I agree with others that it looks easily as good as the QF version and with 280bhp it’s hardly going to hang about. I hope more buyers get behind the Alfa as it looks better than all the German offerings (as Alfa’s always do) but now the rest of the package is up to a decent standard too. I know depreciation plays a part but with the amount of 3 series, A4 and C class sloshing about on company fleets I doubt the Alfa holds that much less of it’s value. Great car Mark, enjoy!
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Post by Tim on Mar 22, 2018 10:57:54 GMT
Lovely. If they did an estate and there was a dealer within even 50 miles I'd certainly go and enquire.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 22, 2018 11:08:37 GMT
Its rather daft that Alfa think that anyone who wants an Estate Giulia will happily buy a Stelvio instead. A QF Sportwagon would have me camping outside the dealer to sign up.
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Post by PG on Mar 22, 2018 13:10:05 GMT
Looks lovely, inside and out. Alfa deserve to have success with it and as said, it is nice to see Alfa as a serious choice.
I think the non-QF looks suit is better as some of the detail is removed and the pure shape shows itself off.
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Post by Big Blue on Mar 22, 2018 15:02:50 GMT
These look lovely and I think the standard car looks far nicer than the Quaddrillafogliolio version.
Enjoy it and keep us updated on reliability, driving quality and engine-mount rust causing the engine to fall out at the lights. Oh no, that was the Lancia Beta wasn't it.....
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Post by Andy C on Mar 22, 2018 15:06:00 GMT
Looks great
I like them in that striking blue too
Red line is very disappointing though
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Post by michael on Mar 22, 2018 15:55:58 GMT
That's very nice, Mark. I'm another who'd like to see an estate but it seems the Stelvio is the alternative there.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 22, 2018 15:58:57 GMT
Its rather daft that Alfa think that anyone who wants an Estate Giulia will happily buy a Stelvio instead. A QF Sportwagon would have me camping outside the dealer to sign up. I agree, but I can see that it makes commercial sense to steer would-be Sportwagon buyers towards the Stelvio. I have had a poke around one of those and came away with the opinion that it was the most non-SUV looking of all mainstream SUVs; and I wouldn't feel like a Cheshire housewife driving one.
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Post by Tim on Mar 22, 2018 16:20:42 GMT
Only problem with that is the Giulia Super is around £5k cheaper for the 200BHP petrol. Obviously there might be some equipment differences but its a big step if you just wanted an estate.
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Post by chipbutty on Mar 22, 2018 18:12:03 GMT
Very nice
How did you square the desire to go " non german " when the usual suspects appear to be much cheaper on a like for like funding basis ?.
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Post by Alex on Mar 22, 2018 18:32:43 GMT
Its rather daft that Alfa think that anyone who wants an Estate Giulia will happily buy a Stelvio instead. A QF Sportwagon would have me camping outside the dealer to sign up. Trouble is for everyone who still thinks like you (and I for that) there’s at least five who are proving Alfa’s marketing team correct. Agree it’s a shame but at the end of the day it’s a numbers game nowadays and no manufacturer, least of all FCA can make cars that have no business case. The sheer volume of overall sales is all that allows the Germans to keep production of estates going.
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Post by Tim on Mar 23, 2018 9:20:51 GMT
Its rather daft that Alfa think that anyone who wants an Estate Giulia will happily buy a Stelvio instead. A QF Sportwagon would have me camping outside the dealer to sign up. Trouble is for everyone who still thinks like you (and I for that) there’s at least five who are proving Alfa’s marketing team correct. Agree it’s a shame but at the end of the day it’s a numbers game nowadays and no manufacturer, least of all FCA can make cars that have no business case. The sheer volume of overall sales is all that allows the Germans to keep production of estates going.
Well, yes, except that at least one of the obvious competitors - the 3 series - appears to be more common in estate form than saloon.
Maybe I just notice the estates more because I've got one?
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Post by grampa on Mar 23, 2018 10:05:25 GMT
Stunning car. I think you have to own an Alfa to get them - mine always generated a lot of comments from passers by, things like, "what a lovely Alfa" "It does my heart good when I see an Alfa" etc etc - I can't imagine getting that reaction when you own one of the usual suspects.
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Post by Alex on Mar 23, 2018 10:25:22 GMT
Trouble is for everyone who still thinks like you (and I for that) there’s at least five who are proving Alfa’s marketing team correct. Agree it’s a shame but at the end of the day it’s a numbers game nowadays and no manufacturer, least of all FCA can make cars that have no business case. The sheer volume of overall sales is all that allows the Germans to keep production of estates going.
Well, yes, except that at least one of the obvious competitors - the 3 series - appears to be more common in estate form than saloon.
Maybe I just notice the estates more because I've got one?
Probably, I imagine if you looked at the global output of 3 series, the estates numbers will be a lot smaller than the saloons.
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Post by Tim on Mar 23, 2018 10:45:18 GMT
Well, yes, except that at least one of the obvious competitors - the 3 series - appears to be more common in estate form than saloon.
Maybe I just notice the estates more because I've got one?
Probably, I imagine if you looked at the global output of 3 series, the estates numbers will be a lot smaller than the saloons. You're right
There are 2,468 3 series under 4 years old on Autotrader and 723 of them are estates. That's just under 30%
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Post by Alex on Mar 23, 2018 10:50:25 GMT
Probably, I imagine if you looked at the global output of 3 series, the estates numbers will be a lot smaller than the saloons. You're right
There are 2,468 3 series under 4 years old on Autotrader and 723 of them are estates. That's just under 30%
There’s also 1,154 X3’s for sale which has been on the market for considerably less time than the 3 series touring. Sadly this proves Alfa are probably right not to waste their time and money developing a sport wagon version of the Giulia.
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Post by franki68 on Mar 24, 2018 9:27:41 GMT
That’s a good looking motor .Enjoy !
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Post by alf on Mar 26, 2018 14:37:35 GMT
Excellent work, I did not know that was on the cards! The Veloce seems to have a great blend of performance, frugality, and weight... It sits in a gap between the 4 and 6 cylinder variants of the opposition. Will be interesting to see how you get on! Evo seem very fond of it as well.
The lack of an estate, from a company that made lovely-looking ones, is a big shame. Commercially understandable, even if I see it as an even sadder call after that Jaguar day where I drove estates and SUV's back to back. I was never a fan of the saloon before, but they do handle well and have great refinement plus I found sticking bars on - for the very rare occasions I transport more than one bike - not too much of a hassle. The lack of folding rear seat is a potential worry for me with the Guiulia, but even then a 26" or 27.5" MTB fits easily enough in a bike bag across the back seats.
I'm very fond of the simple design, screen position,and dials/steering wheel of the Giulia. That and the lack of too many driving modes make it seem quite classy and simply laid out inside.
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