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Mar 9, 2018 19:11:54 GMT
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Mar 9, 2018 19:27:22 GMT
Post by LandieMark on Mar 9, 2018 19:27:22 GMT
The Sale of Goods Act has been replaced by the Consumer Rights Act, but it still applies that the goods have to be fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality.
I would phone Vauxhall Customer Services and see if they will offer any goodwill. It may be worth checking on a Vauxhall forum (shudder) whether this is a common issue.
If the dealer and Vauxhall won't play ball, then you may be able to pay for it under protest on a credit card and state that you will be taking them to the small claims court for a judge to decide whether it is of satisfactory quality or not. You need to put any such threats into writing prior.
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Mar 9, 2018 19:59:48 GMT
Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 9, 2018 19:59:48 GMT
Has it failed due to manufacturing defect or due to massive stone?
EDIT: Ive zoomed on the photo now. So it's internals have fallen apart? Defect. I'd be trying Vauxhall Customer Service too.
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Mar 9, 2018 20:36:18 GMT
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Post by cbeaks1 on Mar 9, 2018 20:36:18 GMT
Did they still have the lifetime warranty at the time you bought?
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Mar 10, 2018 0:46:55 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 8:08:39 GMT
Post by Alex on Mar 10, 2018 8:08:39 GMT
That’s totally out of order and whilst I understand the warranty not including lighting I’d have thought that was to stop a bunch of chancers coming in every time they need a bulb replaced! This looks like it’s becoming a common problem so it’s not right that Mokka owners should be being charged the thick end of a grand for something that is clearly a design fault.
Have you considered grumbling to Auto Express magazine? It sounds like the sort of issue they cover although you might have to have your photo taken with your best Daily Mail annoyed face on show.
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Mar 10, 2018 14:33:03 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 15:14:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 15:14:47 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 15:33:48 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 15:34:35 GMT
Post by LandieMark on Mar 10, 2018 15:34:35 GMT
That looks fine, but I would mark it “Without Prejudice” as they could offer a paltry goodwill gesture and hold you to it in court. To that end I would add satisfactory before goodwill too. Goodwill is one word BTW.
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Mar 10, 2018 15:45:00 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 16:15:48 GMT
Post by LandieMark on Mar 10, 2018 16:15:48 GMT
Just put it in before the Hello or in the subject line of the email.
Yes, the Sale of Goods Act applies in this instance, I think.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:45:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 20:45:58 GMT
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Mar 10, 2018 21:54:09 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Mar 10, 2018 21:54:09 GMT
Can you source a replacement off e-bay or from a scrapyard/breakers, or wouldn't you contemplate that?
If you are going to buy new, what re-assurances can Vauxhall give you that they have solved the "falling apart" issue, otherwise you could go through all this again in another 3 to 4 years (and what about the other side)?
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Mar 11, 2018 18:42:13 GMT
Post by Alex on Mar 11, 2018 18:42:13 GMT
That’s a good point Chris about the other side. If they replace one as a goodwill gesture you should surely expect the other and also to be offered some sort of reassurance that the replacement part is also not liable to fail in a similar fashion.
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Mar 12, 2018 9:04:45 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 12, 2018 9:04:45 GMT
I would expect considerable goodwill in a scenario like this - particularly if the car has been purchased from and serviced by a Vauxhall dealer (daft I know as the lights aren't a service item but that's the way goodwill works, loyalty is generally rewarded).
A less honest person than myself might suggest "accidentally" driving into some sort of protruding object (gatepost?) which will damage the light fitting beyond repair and result in a claim under insurance.
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Mar 12, 2018 16:27:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 16:27:33 GMT
stephen.norman@vauxhall.co.uk This email address is live, I tested it and got a reply from Saminda Sidar the Executive Support Manager. Try Customercare@vauxhall.co.uk quoting Service Request Number: 489214-1479619986.
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Mar 12, 2018 19:11:58 GMT
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Mar 12, 2018 19:38:57 GMT
Post by Alex on Mar 12, 2018 19:38:57 GMT
So take it to the press. If it’s a known issue it’s only good and right that other Mokka owners are made aware that their Vauxhall has a safety critical part with a serious design flaw that is likely to land you a thousand pound bill when it fails. Try Auto Express or Honest John. Failing that what about BBC Watchdog?
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Mar 13, 2018 7:28:00 GMT
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Mar 13, 2018 16:32:44 GMT
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Mar 13, 2018 17:06:00 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Mar 13, 2018 17:06:00 GMT
Result though. I bet they don’t let you know about unless you threaten them properly.
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Mar 13, 2018 18:33:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 18:33:55 GMT
I had a slightly similar issue with Bose when I could not change the batteries on the remote for the sound dock. Initial responses were that I would have to buy a new remote but I managed to get hold of someone senior who admitted there is a design fault with the battery cover and I should have free replacements for life. Current remote seems ok so far.
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Mar 13, 2018 20:36:39 GMT
Post by Alex on Mar 13, 2018 20:36:39 GMT
I suspect the warranty was written to exclude lifting to stop owners coming in for free bulb replacements but has been misinterpreted to include all aspects of lighting related warranty claims. I see no good reason why the failure you’ve suffered should be excluded. Just shows it pays to be persistent.
I wouldn’t say that this means that Vauxhall aren’t reliable though, I suspect that whoever manufactures the headlamps for the Mokka also supplies countless other brands so a supposedly more reliable car is no less likely to have unreliable headlights. Does she still want a crossover? If so how about a locally built Honda HRV? It’s sort of Japanese.
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Mar 13, 2018 21:24:55 GMT
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Mar 15, 2018 8:53:16 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Mar 15, 2018 8:53:16 GMT
If you (or rather, your wife) are buying a car based on the ease of changing headlamp bulbs, I can recommend the Captur
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Mar 15, 2018 9:41:47 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 15, 2018 9:41:47 GMT
I can't remember the last time I had to change a headlight bulb, must be at least 20+ years. Probably similar for rear lights.
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Mar 15, 2018 10:22:57 GMT
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Mar 15, 2018 14:41:03 GMT
Post by PG on Mar 15, 2018 14:41:03 GMT
Even better, she wants shot as soon as it's fixed, so we'll be car shopping soon! Suggestions please. Criteria obviously includes reliability (Japanese?) and a warranty that isn't laughable like Vauxhall's so called lifetime one. Hold that thought, big important edit alert.The service manager has been on the Vauxhall warranty and recall site, only available to them and found something. It now turns out that Vauxhall DO admit there is a manufacturing fault and that the lights should be replaced at no cost to the customer if and when they fail! Vauxhall Customer Care's warranty line basically told us to fuck off, so someone there needs some training. What a shambolic bit of customer service. They tell you to do one and then when you don't they finally bother to do some research and discover that you in the right all along. How to lose a good customer in one easy lesson.
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Mar 15, 2018 16:19:29 GMT
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