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Post by franki68 on Jun 14, 2018 10:37:42 GMT
Are official times measured 1 up or 2 up?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 11:27:27 GMT
I very much doubt there's any such thing as an official method for manufacturers.
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Post by johnc on Jun 14, 2018 11:41:18 GMT
I very much doubt there's any such thing as an official method for manufacturers. It will no doubt be controlled by the PR department and which cars they want to show they are faster than. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 14:55:27 GMT
Mercedes A200 Sport.
Claimed 8s to 62. Actual 8.7 to 60.
Could be under 'How Much?' too, at £27,500 for a 1.3 turbo. £30k as tested, value after 3yrs (whilst still in Honeymoon/new model mode) just £12k. I presume that these are primarily fleet-friendly or 'renters'.
Could have been under 'How Heavy?' too, though in a (sort of) good way as it was 4kg beneath its less than svelte 1,379 claimed. I know that things move on, and that it's going to be a little larger, but that's almost as much as the 3.2 V6 4wd A3 I had before the RS4. And even closer to the V5 Passat that I had before that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 5:35:08 GMT
Mercedes A200 Sport.
Claimed 8s to 62. Actual 8.7 to 60.
Could be under 'How Much?' too, at £27,500 for a 1.3 turbo. £30k as tested, value after 3yrs (whilst still in Honeymoon/new model mode) just £12k. I presume that these are primarily fleet-friendly or 'renters'.
Could have been under 'How Heavy?' too, though in a (sort of) good way as it was 4kg beneath its less than svelte 1,379 claimed. I know that things move on, and that it's going to be a little larger, but that's almost as much as the 3.2 V6 4wd A3 I had before the RS4. And even closer to the V5 Passat that I had before that. Bit late here, but I actually weighed my R32, as I used to work at a place that had a weighbridge. It was 1575kg with half a tank of fuel and me not in it, so I doubt the A3 version was 200kg lighter... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 8:42:26 GMT
Audi quoted 1,445kgs, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:42:17 GMT
Methinks they were telling a massive porkie then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 7:16:41 GMT
Possibly, though I am not entirely sure it wasn't based on the previous platform. It was noticeably smaller inside than my brother's V6 R32.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 10:01:25 GMT
The 8P A3 was related to the mk5 Golf chassis-wise (PQ35 platform).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 10:05:31 GMT
More than related, I'm sure. It was 3-door and smaller in the back, so I wonder what difference that would have made. Your Golf was 5-door?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 20:34:38 GMT
It were, yes.
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Post by Eff One on Sept 27, 2018 11:35:17 GMT
You sort of lost me at 'Bentayga'. If there's ever been a stupider name for a car I'm struggling to bring it to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 14:08:52 GMT
The unutterably lovely thing that is the Vauxhall Combo Life (Energy 1.5 Turbo D 100, nonetheless) - claimed 0-60 of 12.7, managed 14.7. Also takes almost five seconds to crack 30. Wouldn't want to be joining any busy roundabouts in that fucker...
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Post by Sav on Dec 30, 2018 9:49:27 GMT
They didn't even bother doing a 0-100 mph time. I understand that modern cars are expensive to make and margins are thin, but 23k for that? If I ever get to a stage of my life when I want to drive around in a Vauxhall Combo Life, I think I'd rather just end things there.
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Post by cbeaks1 on Dec 30, 2018 12:02:52 GMT
I think there is a lot of joy to be had punting a slow van based vehicle around.
Also, lots of usefulness in 2000l plus of space in the back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 13:53:23 GMT
You sort of lost me at 'Bentayga'. If there's ever been a stupider name for a car I'm struggling to bring it to mind. I think the Japanese home market have some crackers, Mazda super bongo friendee for a start. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 10:52:47 GMT
Just watched a silly drag race between a diesel Panamera and an SQ7. Look at the difference between the claimed 0-62 times...  ...and the measured 0-60 times. 60 intead of 62 but still a pretty big difference, especially Ferdi's effort.  |
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Post by johnc on Jan 27, 2019 11:16:07 GMT
Bloody quick for a diesel though. The Panamera hybrid petrol also blew an M5 and E63S into the weeds on a drag race even though on paper it has a good bit less power - I think Porsche might be very conservative on power figures.
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Post by Martin on Jan 27, 2019 11:22:33 GMT
Bloody quick for a diesel though. The Panamera hybrid petrol also blew an M5 and E63S into the weeds on a drag race even though on paper it has a good bit less power - I think Porsche might be very conservative on power figures. The Turbo S Hybrid has got a combined 680hp, so will do 0-60 in 3.2 and 0-100 in 6.6 secs. It’s not much quicker than the standard turbo thanks to its weight problem, but they have always outperformed the on paper stats. Autoexpress tested the new standard V6 Cayenne Hybrid, which now has o460 combined hp, it cracked 0-60 in 4.5sec and average 44mpg on test. Significantly quicker and more economical than the diesel competition. |
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Post by johnc on Jan 27, 2019 11:57:15 GMT
It was this one:
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Post by Martin on Jan 27, 2019 11:58:47 GMT
Yes, full fat Turbo S V8 Hybrid, 680hp and a load of instant electric torque to get it off the line.
A hybrid I’d be very happy with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 8:02:52 GMT
Jag XF with 300PS 4-pot turbo - claimed 0-60 5.7, Autocar got 6.6.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 15:30:28 GMT
Volvo S60 T8 AWD Polestar Engineered.
Claimed 4.4s to 62.
Took 5.4s to 60.
Porky of approx. 1.1s, or 25%. Conditions were damp, but the piece specifically states that the car was not traction-limited off the line at all - and 0-100 of 12.6 is consistent with the achieved performance to 60.
Even with a modest option spend, it also looks set to lose 2/3rds of its value over three years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 17:35:11 GMT
JLR again:
Disco D180 AWD SE - lumbering to 60 in 10.3s. I know you don't buy the car for performance, but the truth isn't asking too much. No 'quoted' figure, but JLR quotes 8.6s for the heavier Velar with the same engine, so must be quoting iro 8.4s for this. Still, that Velar weights 2089kgs, as opposed to the 1953 of the Disco. Or it would, if the Disco didn't actually weigh 2145kgs.
It does have a panoramic glass roof, which must weight a good few kgs, but JLR must struggle to keep a straight face when the marketing department trots out its weight and acceleration figures...
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Post by Martin on Jan 8, 2020 19:47:45 GMT
They’re terrible for it.
The 180ho Velar is the one a Racing had, I’m pretty sure he said not much happened when you tried to accelerate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 9:18:58 GMT
I believe that there is also a D150...
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 9, 2020 11:34:14 GMT
They do a D180 in a Discovery, Wow that'll deffo be glacial.
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Post by Tim on Jan 9, 2020 14:18:36 GMT
They do a D180 in a Discovery, Wow that'll deffo be glacial. It just means the other school run mums will have more time to admire your upmarket wheels as you drive sedately away from right outside the school  |
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2020 20:02:20 GMT
They do a D180 in a Discovery, Wow that'll deffo be glacial. It just means the other school run mums will have more time to admire your upmarket wheels as you drive sedately away from right outside the school Admire? You have seen a current shape Discovery haven’t you?  |
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Post by Tim on Jan 10, 2020 9:39:30 GMT
It just means the other school run mums will have more time to admire your upmarket wheels as you drive sedately away from right outside the school Admire? You have seen a current shape Discovery haven’t you? I regularly follow one for some of my commute so maybe my eyes have become accustomed to that! Anyway, forget the look and just check out the badge - that's the most important thing nowadays! |
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